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09-17-2020, 01:41 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Raleigh
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Non-commercial class a drivers license NC
Appears that my Montana and Ram dually combination require a special drivers license. Have spoken with NCDMV headquarters and four local offices. No one seems to know anything about this. Their website is no help, and gives no indication of what to study nor what to expect during the driving test. If you have this license, please give me some information...and, if anywhere near Raleigh, where did you go for the test. Thanks so much!
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09-17-2020, 02:38 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
Posts: 7,546
M.O.C. #2283
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If you have spoken to your DMV and 4 local offices why do you think you need them special license? Up here in Va we don’t. We don’t seem to have any more problems driving than California does.
Lynwood
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09-17-2020, 05:00 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Carson City
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If that license is required it is required. Just because some state employees don't know their job is not going to be an excuse for when you do need it. Keep going up the chain.
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09-17-2020, 08:26 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Minden - NV
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I just flipped through the NC CDL Handbook.
Study sections 2, 3, 6, 11, 12, 13 and that should be enough for the non-commercial Class A. It's listed briefly in the regular Handbook on page 10 (11/102), but doesn't cover the sections in the CDL book.
Here's a link to Nevada's non-commercial A/B. It's basically the same information, but none of the CDL stuff.
The DPS has separate license classes list here.
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09-18-2020, 07:55 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: McKinney
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The handbook is pretty clear you need a class A non commercial, but gives no clue to what you need to do to get it. Similar to Texas, but the wording for the Texas class A non CDL is for a weight or combined weight over 26,000 lbs and I am just under that. But in Texas you do have to take a written test and a driving test towing the trailer.
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Riley, our Golden
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09-18-2020, 08:32 AM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Hereford,AZ
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Now that you have wakened a sleeping dog, they will see that extra money can be made by requiring a special license!!!
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Did you ever stop to think, and forgot to start again?
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09-18-2020, 08:52 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Alton
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M.O.C. #24086
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States that require special RV class license
https://www.campanda.com/magazine/rv...-requirements/
Hope this helps
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2016 F350 Lariat
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09-18-2020, 09:46 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: McKinney
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M.O.C. #6433
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Interesting that 7 states force you into a commercial license, CDL.
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Bill & Patricia
Riley, our Golden
2007 3075RL (recently sold, currently without)
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09-18-2020, 10:32 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
Posts: 7,546
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[QUOTE=mazboy;1198404]what are you talking about? North Carolina has no special requirement on RVs.
Exactly what I tried to tell him in post No 2. Just like Va.
Lynwood
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09-18-2020, 11:06 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: McKinney
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mazboy
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If you go to the NC DOT web site you will find the same requirement many states have. If your gross combined vehicle weight (GCVW) rating is greater than 26,001 lbs and your trailer GVWR is greater than 10,000 lbs then you are required to have a class A non CDL license. Length has nothing to do with it.
https://www.ncdot.gov/dmv/license-id...nses-fees.aspx
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Bill & Patricia
Riley, our Golden
2007 3075RL (recently sold, currently without)
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09-18-2020, 12:46 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Minden - NV
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BB_TX
Length has nothing to do with it.
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or the fact that it's an RV
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09-18-2020, 01:23 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: McKinney
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M.O.C. #6433
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jetskier
or the fact that it's an RV
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Riley, our Golden
2007 3075RL (recently sold, currently without)
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09-23-2020, 01:25 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Gardnerville
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never had an issue... 38 foot Montana... 13k loaded 16000 gvwr...
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10-07-2020, 09:36 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Carson City
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dfb
never had an issue... 38 foot Montana... 13k loaded 16000 gvwr...
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Is that because you haven't been pulled over? Or been in a wreck and the other guys lawyer bring up an improper license?
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10-08-2020, 08:30 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Gardnerville
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M.O.C. #17163
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Montana Man
Is that because you haven't been pulled over? Or been in a wreck and the other guys lawyer bring up an improper license?
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Had a hiway Patrol set up behind me on the side of 80 while changing a tire..Never been pulled over since 92.. all most
30 years.. Got in touch with our dmv about 5 years ago about the license.. They said they dont test anymore..she said you dont need one..As far as accidents, that’s
why we have insurance.
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10-08-2020, 01:00 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Carson City
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M.O.C. #21963
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dfb
Had a hiway Patrol set up behind me on the side of 80 while changing a tire..Never been pulled over since 92.. all most
30 years.. Got in touch with our dmv about 5 years ago about the license.. They said they dont test anymore..she said you dont need one..As far as accidents, that’s
why we have insurance.
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I'm moving in next door to Carson City. I've looked into the licensing issue and found we do need the license. I wouldn't trust an ignorant state employee at DMV to know the law. Having the proper license doesn't make us better drivers but it does make us legal.
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2016 3160, Legacy, Sailuns, Splendide 2100 xc vented, 1 1/2" axle lift blocks, disk brakes. 2014 Ram 3500 SRW SWB 4X4 6.7 Aisin Mega Cab, EBC slotted disks and brakes, Titan fuel tank.
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10-08-2020, 03:37 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Minden - NV
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M.O.C. #22360
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Montana Man
I'm moving in next door to Carson City. I've looked into the licensing issue and found we do need the license. I wouldn't trust an ignorant state employee at DMV to know the law. Having the proper license doesn't make us better drivers but it does make us legal.
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You do and I took the Non-Comm Class A in the Fall of 2018 at the Carson City DMV. The inspection and skills testing was done on the asphalt pad south of the building. The road test was up I-580 into Washoe Valley to the Bellevue Exit and headed back.
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09-23-2020, 02:09 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Madison
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M.O.C. #19862
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jeb_cbb
Appears that my Montana and Ram dually combination require a special drivers license. Have spoken with NCDMV headquarters and four local offices. No one seems to know anything about this. Their website is no help, and gives no indication of what to study nor what to expect during the driving test. If you have this license, please give me some information...and, if anywhere near Raleigh, where did you go for the test. Thanks so much!
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If it is based on weight, what is your gross trailer and truck weight?
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2017 3160RL Montana
2017 Chevrolet 3500 Duramax
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09-23-2020, 02:27 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: McKinney
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M.O.C. #6433
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lkennerly
If it is based on weight, what is your gross trailer and truck weight?
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The license requirements are based on weight RATNGS, not on scaled actual weights. In those states that require it, if the gross combined weight rating of the truck and trailer exceed 26,001 lbs then the class A non commercial license is required even if the scaled weight is less.
Now, how many people are towing with GCWR numbers higher than 26,001 lbs and should have the class A license but don’t? Probably a pretty high percentage. Most people probably never even know of the requirement. I didn’t for years until reading it on an RV forum and checking the Texas DOT web site. But my GCWR is just under 26,000 lbs and class A is not required.
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Riley, our Golden
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