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Old 01-12-2020, 06:26 PM   #1
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Fan switch

Today we noticed our fan/light switch in the living room will only stay in the "on" position if we hold it--it has the normal snap sound when we turn it off but when turned on it doesn't stay on. I imagine there is something wrong with the switch (obviously i think)Anyone know how difficult it would be to fix--I see I'd have to remove the entire light and control board to see the back of it. Thanks
 
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Old 01-12-2020, 07:00 PM   #2
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Is this a pull chain switch or a switch on the wall. What rig model and year would help as well as a photo of the switch. Without more information, no one can guess what you are working with to give you any assistance.
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Old 01-12-2020, 08:29 PM   #3
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Is this a pull chain switch or a switch on the wall. What rig model and year would help as well as a photo of the switch. Without more information, no one can guess what you are working with to give you any assistance.
Sorry!! We have a 3811---the fan/light in the living room has a pull chain to turn on the light on the fan--it's the rocker switch on the panel with all the other light controls,slide outs and awning controls that we have to push and hold at the on position to work--if you don't hold it hard against the panel it move back about 2-3 mm and it goes off.I'll try to get a pic
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Old 01-12-2020, 09:35 PM   #4
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That rocker switch should be a standard Decora switch. It is not repairable and must be replaced. https://www.lowes.com/pd/Legrand-Rad...tch/1000003588
Make sure you have power fully turned off in your rig before you attempt to replace the switch. If you have never done electrical work before, it might be better to find a friend who is capable of this work.
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Old 01-13-2020, 10:33 AM   #5
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Cover will pop off, two screws to pull out, wires to remove from switch with breaker off.
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I agree with both of the above posts.
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Old 01-19-2020, 04:08 PM   #7
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Ceiling Fan Switch

I had a similar problem in that this switch is so easy to turn on that the fan gets turned on when someone brushes an elbow against the switch panel while going up the stairs to the bedroom. In my Monty this is not a standard Decora switch available from HD or Lowes. It is a special self-contained switch designed for use without a wall box. I suppose the control panel could be modified to accept a box and a standard Decora switch. The opening is smaller than a standard wall box. Alternatively, silicone could be used to insulate the exposed electrical connections on a standard Decora switch. Failure to insulate or use a box could result in fireworks inside the wall if the electrical contacts come in contact with a conductive surface. The correct switch is made by Pass&Seymour (aka Legrand). These switches are used in RVs and mobile homes. The part number in my rig is SC070. I went to my local Pass&Seymour electrical dealer and they tried to order the switch several times, with no success even though it showed up in supplier catalogs and was supposed to be available. The wires do not attach with screws. After the rear cap is removed from the switch, one can see where the wires are pressed onto spikes in the rear of the switch. And, as you can see from the attached pictures, there is more than one wire to be attached. The spikes are long enough that the wires just lay on top on one another. Pictures of my switch and a .pdf from Pass&Seymour attached. Good luck. P.S. The pics are generally self explanatory but if you save them to your desktop you can read the file names.
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Old 01-19-2020, 06:55 PM   #8
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Thanks--yes you are correct----that's what it looks like--it's not a standard Decora type switch...I'll see if I can find one.
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Old 01-19-2020, 07:31 PM   #9
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Thanks--yes you are correct----that's what it looks like--it's not a standard Decora type switch...I'll see if I can find one.
Mine has the same number on the back---did you finally get one from the dealer??? It is difficult to attach the wires--can't really tell by the picture--I haven't taken mine apart yet...Thanks!!
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Old 01-19-2020, 09:24 PM   #10
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After several failed attempts to get a switch from the electrical supplier I just gave up. Pass&Seymour makes a tool for pressing the wires onto the spikes. I'm sure the tool is not cheap. There are three wires. It might be possible to press the wires on the spikes by hand. I did find an almond one at this site. https://www.trekwood.com/products/13...Pole-Lt-Almond Maybe Trekwood can locate a black one. Good luck.
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Old 01-20-2020, 06:44 PM   #11
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Hi I replaced mine with a rocket switch I got at home depot. Rewired it used electrical tape around all screws no problem worked just fine.
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