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08-17-2016, 10:53 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: BRISBANE
Posts: 4
M.O.C. #18918
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Tow vehicle suggestions
Hi
My wife and I are retired Aussies planning to visit the US and Canada next year. We are in love with the 5th Wheeler concept (yet to really take off down under)
We have done heaps of research and we think the Montana 3711FL or 3710FL (2016 onward) is the right choice for the 2 of us.
We will not be "boondocking" much so we are leaning toward the 3711 with residential fridge but we are always open to other views.
The real problem in the tow vehicle - having looked at the small selection of vehicles in our country we like Chev Silverado 4WD, crew cab, standard bed with the diesel engine/allison gearbox combination. Our rudimentary calculation indicate we will have to go to the Silverado 3500 to pull the trailer.
Research (Keystone website) shows the trailer is 13920 lbs with a carrying capacity of 3590lbs, total being 16530lbs. I doubt we would use all the carrying capacity but its always something to think about
Chev website lists the Max 5th wheel tow capacity of the 3500 at 17200lbs, leaving me half a tonne up my sleeve for passengers and cargo in the truck.
At home that Silverado would require a truck licence which I hold so thats not a problem - a better option would be the 2500 Silverado but its 5th wheel capacity is only 14000lbs
Am I on the right track or have I missed something important.
We are so looking forward to our trip
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08-18-2016, 02:11 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Lake Gaston
Posts: 8,773
M.O.C. #12156
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If I read your posting correctly, you are leaning to a 3500 dually durmax/Allison,4WD. Perfect!
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Mike and Lorraine
2002 3655 FL, 2005 3650RK
2010 3665RE, 2015 3910FB
F350 crew cab dually 6.7
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08-18-2016, 03:15 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Full Timer In Naples, Florida
Posts: 1,049
M.O.C. #15731
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I like the 8 foot bed, DRW . better turning and more stable.
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2017, 3500 Ram Big Horn, 4x4, Crew Cab, DRW, Aisin Transmission, 4:10. Curt Q20, 2014 Mountaineer 331 RLT, Sailun's on the rv and truck.
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08-18-2016, 03:34 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: McKinney
Posts: 7,133
M.O.C. #6433
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You are on the right track. The 3500 is the way to go. But you also need to look at the payload rating for the truck, not just tow capacity. The Keystone site will give you the empty pin weight. But there are some 3711FL owners here who could probably give you an idea of loaded pin weight. You need to know that weight and compare it to the truck's payload rating to see if you need a DRW, or can get by with an SRW. Many prefer a DRW. I prefer an SRW. But the trailer pin weight will determine if you NEED a DRW.
And yes, there are those who tow similar weight trailers with a 250/2500, seemingly with no problem.
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Riley, our Golden
2007 3075RL (recently sold, currently without)
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08-18-2016, 04:05 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Kville
Posts: 2,865
M.O.C. #7871
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by BB_TX
...The 3500 is the way to go. But you also need to look at the payload rating for the truck, not just tow capacity...
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Good advice. The 2500 D/A can pull it, but will be over weight when you add the pin weight.
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08-18-2016, 04:09 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Bridgewater
Posts: 1,196
M.O.C. #13166
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I'm not sure you can get the 1 ton Silverado in a standard bed. The longbed is the only one available, I believe. When I bought mine, forever ago, Ford was the only truck available in a 1 ton shortbed. Without having crunched the numbers, it looks to me like you are in DRW territory.
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B&W Companion
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08-18-2016, 04:12 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Stafford Springs
Posts: 524
M.O.C. #17256
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Definitely need a 1 ton truck. Brand and Dually is your option. I tow the same configuration and have been weighed by the RVSEF. nothing less than a 1 ton would meet the requirements.
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Jason & Wendy
2014 Ford F-350 Lariat 6.7L PSD
2015 Keystone Montana 3711FL
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08-18-2016, 05:14 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Port Orchard
Posts: 1,153
M.O.C. #3403
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As usual the guys on this site always give good advice. I totally agree that you will need a 1 ton. Go with any of the big three truck companies DRW, and then go off and enjoy yourselves. Hopefully we will see you down the road next year...my wife is retiring at the end of this year and we too are hitting the road.
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08-20-2016, 02:27 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: BRISBANE
Posts: 4
M.O.C. #18918
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Hi everyone that replied to my post - the information is invaluable. We do hope to meet up with form members on our travels. If anyone knows of a 3711 or 3710 owner I can contact for their experience that would be great
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08-20-2016, 02:45 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
Posts: 7,528
M.O.C. #2283
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The Dmax Allison can't be beat. I would go with a long bed.
We hope you like our country. A friend at Progress Equipment sends us a Calendar of your country every year. We always look forward to it beause the views of Australia are so beautiful.
Lynwood
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