Outside propane hookup - Montana Owners Club

CruzinMooses · 04-19-2020, 11:58 AM

Does anyone else have a problem with the outside propane connection not providing enough pressure/volume to run a grill? I cannot run my Weber Q2200 off of the outside connection due to lack of pressure. Am I alone on this issue?

**Carl n Susan** · 04-19-2020, 12:05 PM

I am fairly sure your HC's propane tap is after the coach's regulator. This means the pressure has been stepped down already. But your Weber regulator expects a full pressure supply. You need to remove the Weber regulator. Someone here posted a link to a replacement non-regulator connector. Maybe a Search can find it? Or maybe someone else will remember what it is.

On Edit: Here is a link to a place where you can but replacement regulators for Weber and Coleman BBQs. These allow to you to connect to already regulated propane supply connectors.
https://torjik.com/grill-rv-quick-connect/

lightsout · 04-19-2020, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by CruzinMooses

Does anyone else have a problem with the outside propane connection not providing enough pressure/volume to run a grill? I cannot run my Weber Q2200 off of the outside connection due to lack of pressure. Am I alone on this issue?

That should be a non issue assuming you are using a "Y" directly off the tank with a dedicated regulator for the BBQ.

DutchmenSport · 04-19-2020, 12:09 PM

Nope, absolutely not. About the only thing you'll be able to run off that outside hook-up is another RV gas stove. Your Weber has a regulator (probably) and the RV hook-up also is regulated. Nothing will ever work. I know, I've tried everything with my Coleman Stove.

There is only one model of Coleman stove that will work with your RV system. If you want to use your RV propane tanks, you'll need to hook up another connection BEFORE the regulator. Sorry, there's no other way.

I have no clue why they even bother putting that quick connect gas connection on our campers at all.

Because we had a new Coleman outside stove when we purchased our last camper, I ended up just purchasing a separate 30 pound propane tank and keep it filled. I run the stove from it now, and the 30 pound tank comes in handy if I misjudge and run out of propane on both tanks on my camper. (which has never happened).

Sorry to be the one to give you the sad news, but if anyone else has a solution, I'm all ears too.

FYI, on my Coleman, I even purchased a second connector with the regulator. I cut the regulator off and attached a rubber hose with a small radiator clamp and the other end with the quick disconnect. It still did not work. The pressure was still too low for the Coleman.

Not sure about your Weber though. But, good luck, maybe someone else will chime in.

Fish · 04-19-2020, 12:14 PM

You have to eliminate the regulator on your grill.

https://propanegear.com/weber-q-comp...2-m-f-qc-hose/

Fish · 04-19-2020, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DutchmenSport

Nope, absolutely not. About the only thing you'll be able to run off that outside hook-up is another RV gas stove. Your Weber has a regulator (probably) and the RV hook-up also is regulated. Nothing will ever work. I know, I've tried everything with my Coleman Stove.

There is only one model of Coleman stove that will work with your RV system. If you want to use your RV propane tanks, you'll need to hook up another connection BEFORE the regulator. Sorry, there's no other way.

I have no clue why they even bother putting that quick connect gas connection on our campers at all.

Because we had a new Coleman outside stove when we purchased our last camper, I ended up just purchasing a separate 30 pound propane tank and keep it filled. I run the stove from it now, and the 30 pound tank comes in handy if I misjudge and run out of propane on both tanks on my camper. (which has never happened).

Sorry to be the one to give you the sad news, but if anyone else has a solution, I'm all ears too.

FYI, on my Coleman, I even purchased a second connector with the regulator. I cut the regulator off and attached a rubber hose with a small radiator clamp and the other end with the quick disconnect. It still did not work. The pressure was still too low for the Coleman.

Not sure about your Weber though. But, good luck, maybe someone else will chime in.

I eliminated the regulator on my coleman roadtrip and it works fine off of my quick connect gas fitting.

Fish · 04-19-2020, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish

I eliminated the regulator on my coleman roadtrip and it works fine off of my quick connect gas fitting.

I used this

https://propanegear.com/coleman-road...kit-8-ft-hose/

I think propanegear has kits for pretty much any portable grill out there.

**Carl n Susan** · 04-19-2020, 12:23 PM

[QUOTE=DutchmenSport;1180721
FYI, on my Coleman, I even purchased a second connector with the regulator. I cut the regulator off and attached a rubber hose with a small radiator clamp and the other end with the quick disconnect. It still did not work. The pressure was still too low for the Coleman.
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Ah but this setup does work *IF* you remove the check valve and spring in the adapter. I use a mod like this with an adjustable regulator as I like more burner BTUs than the standard Coleman regulator.

For those who have Weber or Coleman BBQs and want to connect to an already regulated propane supply, here is where you can buy replacement regulators that will work.
https://torjik.com/grill-rv-quick-connect/

DutchmenSport · 04-19-2020, 02:02 PM

FYI, that Coleman Roadtrip quick disconnect works on only specific Coleman grills. And only those grills listed in the link will work with this system. Every other Coleman will not work.

I cut the entire regulator off the Coleman connection and addatched the stem that screws into the Coleman Stove and it still did not work. The pressure is different on everything except the Roadtrip models.

This is the part that attaches to the stove, and the 1 pound bottles screw in the other end. I cut the regulator off completely and the pressure coming from the trailer was incomparable. It made a flame, but it wasn't high enough and blew out at the slightest puff of wind.

Click Here

This style of Camp Stove

**Carl n Susan** · 04-19-2020, 04:10 PM

I am sure I wasn't clear with my earlier response.

You are correct the pre-made non-regulator connectors are only for the more common Coleman's. Apparently yours is not one that they support. I really don't understand why as the replacement connector you pointed to at Walmart is compatible with all Coleman devices. Maybe it is compatible "unless it isn't"?

In my case I took a standard adapter/regulator that worked on my Coleman Roadtrip and adapted it to run off an already regulated propane supply (i.e. a RV mounted quick disconnect as what is on the HCs). I did this similar to what you did by cutting off the regulator and connecting a rubber hose with a hose clamp.

But then a friend saw my setup at a rally and suggested an improvement. Use an adjustable regulator instead of the stock Coleman one. This allows you crank up the heat more than the normal (ala Tim "The Toolman" Taylor - More Power!).

This is a pic of the standard Coleman setup. I still use this on occasion.
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This is my modified connection with out the Coleman regulator and with the adjustable one.
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The check valve (actually a small brass/rubber doodad and spring) is located in the connector that attaches directly to the Coleman. Carefully unscrew the two pieces so you can save the valve/spring in case you want to go back. Here is a pic of the connector with a pointer to the junction of the two pieces holding the valve/spring.
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Lastly this is my setup using the adjustable regulator. Rather than cutting the hose I adapted the connector to the existing hose using a
3/8 flare×1/8mnpt, Here is a pic of that.
20200419_135412.jpg

akoske · 04-19-2020, 04:55 PM

On my Coleman NXT Grill I removed the regulator cut new threads with pipe die and installed elbow and male quick disconnect. works get 2 different campers now.

BobnLee · 02-05-2022, 10:50 AM

I can't find any propane quick connect for a BBQ on my 2014 high country

Ahdmeyer · 02-05-2022, 12:37 PM

i am confused as to where you do or do not have a regulater using a coleman roadtrip stove. can anyone set me staaight on this
thx
al meyer
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Route66Rambler · 02-05-2022, 03:33 PM

We use the outside "cooker hooker" all the time with our Blackstone. Love it, so convenient.

**Carl n Susan** · 02-05-2022, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Ahdmeyer

i am confused as to where you do or do not have a regulater using a coleman roadtrip stove. can anyone set me staaight on this
thx
al meyer
3931 fb

The Coleman stoves have a proprietary regulator. It needs to be connected to a high pressure tank. Trying to use the propane system on the Montana after the onboard regulator will not work with the standard hose setup.

You can modify the Coleman regulator assembly to eliminate the regulator portion be keeping the unique attachment piece. That way you can use the low pressure system off the Montana or an alternative, adjustable, regulator where you can really turn up the heat.

RMcNeal · 02-06-2022, 03:05 AM

I did the same on my Coleman Road Trip (the red one) as what Carl did. It worked very well on our SOB travel trailer. Our Montana doesn't have the quick connect, so I gave the road trip to our daughter and got a 22" Blackstone. I carry an extra 20# tank now for the Blackstone.

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