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06-01-2020, 06:59 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Menifee
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No auto start
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2018 3920fb 2020 GMC Denali 3500 4x4 Duramax, 10 speed Allison. LB SRW, Firestone air bags with Airlift wireless onboard compressor. Anderson Ultimate Hitch. MX4 folding cover. 50gal titan in bed transfer tank. Onan 6500 lp genset installed by me ! Had: 2 HF 3500 Inverters with Parallel Kit
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06-01-2020, 07:19 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Arlington
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M.O.C. #18081
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The ground is is there. It part of the flange ring. The rear of the plug has terminals for all 4 conductors. I would not give you bogus information.
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06-01-2020, 08:21 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Menifee
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M.O.C. #22986
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Thank you. After I looked at the product I saw the 4 connections. Figured the ground needed to be somewhere and I did see the ring. Just need the wire and switch now.
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06-01-2020, 10:14 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Hesston
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M.O.C. #25060
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Originally Posted by Last2Die
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One of the posts earlier mentioned just getting a different cable that goes from your inverters to your shore power.
Unless I'm not understanding, the only thing that an ATS will do is reconnect you to shore power when the power comes back on, but it still will not kill your inverters. You'll still need to do that manually.
Maybe there's a reason that an ATS is needed in this case, but that seems like a lot of work, especially if you're going to have to manually start the inverters.
At the end of the day, simple is always better!!
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2020 Chevy SRW 3500HD Duramax/Allison High Country
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06-01-2020, 10:23 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Menifee
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M.O.C. #22986
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CADman_KS
One of the posts earlier mentioned just getting a different cable that goes from your inverters to your shore power.
Unless I'm not understanding, the only thing that an ATS will do is reconnect you to shore power when the power comes back on, but it still will not kill your inverters. You'll still need to do that manually.
Maybe there's a reason that an ATS is needed in this case, but that seems like a lot of work, especially if you're going to have to manually start the inverters.
At the end of the day, simple is always better!!
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Yes in my case the ATS long with the front 50 amp outlet will power the coach while traveling. Spending the night at rest stops. Easier way to hook up power from the inverted generators in the bed of my truck. I guess I can also use them to power up the unit when we are close to camp to cool down inside while driving.
Right now I use an extension cord at rest stops the front plug will make things easier.
Tony
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2018 3920fb 2020 GMC Denali 3500 4x4 Duramax, 10 speed Allison. LB SRW, Firestone air bags with Airlift wireless onboard compressor. Anderson Ultimate Hitch. MX4 folding cover. 50gal titan in bed transfer tank. Onan 6500 lp genset installed by me ! Had: 2 HF 3500 Inverters with Parallel Kit
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06-01-2020, 11:45 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Hesston
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M.O.C. #25060
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Last2Die
Yes in my case the ATS long with the front 50 amp outlet will power the coach while traveling. Spending the night at rest stops. Easier way to hook up power from the inverted generators in the bed of my truck. I guess I can also use them to power up the unit when we are close to camp to cool down inside while driving.
Right now I use an extension cord at rest stops the front plug will make things easier.
Tony
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Now it all makes sense!
Good luck in your endeavor! You have some great guidance here, and I have no doubt you can get it done...
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06-01-2020, 11:50 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Hesston
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M.O.C. #25060
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Last2Die
... I guess I can also use them to power up the unit when we are close to camp to cool down inside while driving.
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One other thought that I had after reading this was about running the inverters in the back of your truck. I don't think that there's any issues with that (that I'm aware of), but my son-in-laws father has had issues keeping his on-board genset running while rolling down the road. I don't think that he ever figured out what the issue with it was either. It would run fine stopped, and soon as he started moving, it would die. Like it was getting too much air rammed into it or something.
If you haven't done it in the past, might be worth running down the road with your inverters running to make sure that they run. I don't know if this is a common issue, or just something unique to my son-in-law's father...
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06-01-2020, 11:55 AM
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Montana Master
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Location: Menifee
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M.O.C. #22986
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Thank you, could be the low oil sensor going off and killing the engine.
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2018 3920fb 2020 GMC Denali 3500 4x4 Duramax, 10 speed Allison. LB SRW, Firestone air bags with Airlift wireless onboard compressor. Anderson Ultimate Hitch. MX4 folding cover. 50gal titan in bed transfer tank. Onan 6500 lp genset installed by me ! Had: 2 HF 3500 Inverters with Parallel Kit
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06-01-2020, 12:16 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Hesston
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M.O.C. #25060
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Last2Die
Thank you, could be the low oil sensor going off and killing the engine.
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Yeah, it could be. Like I said, I don't think that he ever actually figured it out. When we were with them this last weekend, I know that he was not running it while we were traveling, but then again, it wasn't actually hot enough to need air conditioning in the 5er...
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06-01-2020, 02:27 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
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M.O.C. #2283
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Maybe there's a reason that an ATS is needed in this case, but that seems like a lot of work, especially if you're going to have to manually start the inverters.
A transfer switch is a must so you don’t have power to both of the male ends of the power cable. A transfer switch only allows power to one cable at the time.
Lynwood
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06-01-2020, 02:55 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Menifee
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M.O.C. #22986
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Found the power cable. Took down the walls in the basement. I’ll mount the ATS right there. Yeah it’s going to be a lot of work but easier for us when we travel. Pull into a rest stop plug in from the back of the truck start the inverters and we’re done. Plus I get to learn something new lol
Tony
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2018 3920fb 2020 GMC Denali 3500 4x4 Duramax, 10 speed Allison. LB SRW, Firestone air bags with Airlift wireless onboard compressor. Anderson Ultimate Hitch. MX4 folding cover. 50gal titan in bed transfer tank. Onan 6500 lp genset installed by me ! Had: 2 HF 3500 Inverters with Parallel Kit
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06-01-2020, 03:59 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
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M.O.C. #2283
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Plus I get to learn something new lol
That’s the fun part.
Lynwood
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06-01-2020, 04:29 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Hesston
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M.O.C. #25060
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Last2Die
... Plus I get to learn something new lol
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This is what it's all about!!!
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06-02-2020, 08:58 PM
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Montana Master
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Location: Menifee
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M.O.C. #22986
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Got the plug in today. The switch should be here tomorrow and I’ll finish up !
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2018 3920fb 2020 GMC Denali 3500 4x4 Duramax, 10 speed Allison. LB SRW, Firestone air bags with Airlift wireless onboard compressor. Anderson Ultimate Hitch. MX4 folding cover. 50gal titan in bed transfer tank. Onan 6500 lp genset installed by me ! Had: 2 HF 3500 Inverters with Parallel Kit
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06-02-2020, 09:30 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: West Jordan
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M.O.C. #22840
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Last2Die
Got the plug in today. The switch should be here tomorrow and I’ll finish up !
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Looks good.
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2019 3791RD Montana
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06-02-2020, 09:51 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: West Richland
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M.O.C. #17164
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Nice picture of Keystone’s quality work and installation of everything behind the bulkhead. I think that most everything is one size fits all, if it is a shorter RV just flop it around until it fits, even hydraulic hoses for the slides are way over length in my 3160.
Tom Marty
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06-03-2020, 08:41 AM
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Montana Master
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Location: Salem
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M.O.C. #2283
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Looks good. Probably better than someone else would have did it.
Lynwood
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06-03-2020, 09:42 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Menifee
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M.O.C. #22986
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mlh
Looks good. Probably better than someone else would have did it.
Lynwood
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Thank you. Switch comes today stripped the wire back that was located in the basement, won’t cut till the switch gets here measure twice cut once lol. 12 more connections to go then time to test... or call the insurance agent...lol
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2018 3920fb 2020 GMC Denali 3500 4x4 Duramax, 10 speed Allison. LB SRW, Firestone air bags with Airlift wireless onboard compressor. Anderson Ultimate Hitch. MX4 folding cover. 50gal titan in bed transfer tank. Onan 6500 lp genset installed by me ! Had: 2 HF 3500 Inverters with Parallel Kit
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06-03-2020, 10:37 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
Posts: 7,579
M.O.C. #2283
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I’m a machinist I know about measure twice cut once. I once cut a bunch of parts I had over a hundred hours in .025 inch under size. O well throw them in the scrap barrel and start again. Not fun!
Lynwood
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06-03-2020, 12:11 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Hagerstown
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M.O.C. #16013
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nOt riGHt
WonDer why NO one has mentioned that you are trying to power a 220 volt camper with a 110 volt generator. Some very large generators are 220 volt but the ones in the back of you truck are not. The transfer switches have to be rated for 120 volt-220 volt to work with the 220 volt power cord at the pedestal. To power the missing 110 volt power leg from your generator you have to install the jumper on the 220 volt GENERATOR side of the tranSfer switch. Unless an RV transfer switch has an internal jumper for this. The one I bought from CW dose not. I have never seen on like that. The concept is like the 220 volt 50 amp to 110 volt 30 aMp doG bOne you can buy at WalmArt. Given that the generator side delay kicks in after the 220 volt side drops out on sensing the 110 volt generator the phases never coming in contact with the each other so no bucking phases that would ruin your day and campers electronics. Proceed very carefully.
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