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02-29-2016, 02:41 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
Posts: 20,229
M.O.C. #2839
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We had a member on the forum a few years ago that was able to do the math that showed the dully was more stable.
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02-29-2016, 10:41 AM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Manhattan
Posts: 63
M.O.C. #18254
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I try to weigh mine once a year because they seem that we gain weight over time - we meaning me and the 5er. I added the front wheels and back weight of the truck together and just to make sure it is below 11,500 GVWR of my 1 ton diesel. When I exceed that weight I will be looking for Dual Rear Wheel Truck.
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02-29-2016, 01:22 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Clermont
Posts: 289
M.O.C. #17920
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quote:Originally posted by The Erwins
I guess what I am saying is that a DRW is without question going to be a more stable platform, but if you never tow with one and become comfortable with the SRW you'll never know the difference.
My next truck will be a DRW vice the SRW, why.. because I think they look cool haha, but I am sure that once I have owned and towed with one I will become a DRW believer.
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Well said Wes, and probably more truthful than we even like to admit. I've pulled plenty of overloaded trailers in the past because that's what I had to work with. When I changed from the 250 SRW to the 350 DRW it's because I could, and I knew the new vehicle would fully meet our needs well into future. I would still vote for SRW for a daily driver, but as long as we're pulling and living with a 5er this size we'll have the DRW. And looking cool is the best reason to buy
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02-29-2016, 04:04 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Ferndale
Posts: 273
M.O.C. #16033
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Buy what you want and or can afford. I had the truck first. I have the exact trailer and pull it with a 2007 Chevy 2500 duramax. 4 door short box. So far have had no issues and no problem pulling. Probably would have or should have went one ton but this one is paid for and I don't have to mess with these diesel additives.
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03-26-2016, 06:03 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Sedona
Posts: 176
M.O.C. #18355
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We pulled our Montana 3100RL with a 2001 Dodge CTD 2500 6 speed with exhaust brake and air bags for 3 years and over 35,000 miles from California to New Hampshire and Florida multiple times. After about 200,000 miles, the old girl finally gave up and we traded her for a '16 3500 dually. The new one obviously pulls and stops better and my wife drives it while she would not drive the old truck. On the Cat Scale North of Tucson the new rig, truck and trailer, weighed roughly 1,000 lbs more than the old one.
With the old truck, we were on the edge of its capacity but were never concerned about pulling, stopping ability or stability. Through the mountains on I-70 west of Denver, we sometimes were going pretty slow and the trailer brakes would get a little hot, but we always made it, just not as fast as some would like. The new truck has nearly twice the power and torque and it shows. The auto transmission makes it very easy to drive and stop. I won't tell anyone they have to have a dually to pull a fiver but I would not go back to a 3/4 ton truck myself.
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03-28-2016, 07:32 AM
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New Member
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Royal Oak
Posts: 7
M.O.C. #18140
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RV newbies.........we bought a '16 3150 legacy package Monty that we have yet to tow for the first time as we own a tax/accountant business that is currently consuming our time. Our maiden voyage is schedule for the first week in May to VA to visit our son and daughter in law. Have wrestled with the tow vehicle acquisition and by luck was able to buy a used 2013 Chevy Silverado SRW 2500 diesel with only 5,000 miles on it. I decided to put a rear helper spring on the truck as well as air bags to accommodate the weight. Would be interested in anybodys thought on the matter.
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03-28-2016, 12:17 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Kville
Posts: 2,865
M.O.C. #7871
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My thoughts, if you want an honest answer is that anybody using a 3/4 ton truck to haul a 16,000 lb RV is over weight.
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03-29-2016, 02:22 AM
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New Member
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Royal Oak
Posts: 7
M.O.C. #18140
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The '16 referred to in my post is a 2016 unit. The weight specs on that trailer is much less than 16,00.
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03-29-2016, 04:18 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Kville
Posts: 2,865
M.O.C. #7871
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You are looking at the empty weight. 16k is the GVWR...which is where you will eventually be, if not there now.
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03-29-2016, 04:35 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Port Orchard
Posts: 1,153
M.O.C. #3403
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Being that this is the Montana Owner's Club Forum then we can only assume that you are referring to a Montana 5th-wheel and all 2016 Montanas have a GVWR of 16k+.
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03-29-2016, 05:41 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Grand Rapids
Posts: 1,898
M.O.C. #9561
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If this truck will be used for other things don't get a dually. For what you are talking about just get a 3/4.
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03-29-2016, 08:11 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Washington Coast
Posts: 2,688
M.O.C. #10696
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Yep keep looking and at least get a 1 TON SRW,I prefer Duallies because of my pin weight and stability but a SRW will do for vacationers IMO
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quote:Originally posted by TLightning
My thoughts, if you want an honest answer is that anybody using a 3/4 ton truck to haul a 16,000 lb RV is over weight.
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03-29-2016, 01:09 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Fall Creek
Posts: 1,337
M.O.C. #3699
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Do the math and make your decision.
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2015 Montana 3440RL Legacy Edition, G614's, Pressure Pro TPMS, Dish Tailgaters
2016 GMC Sierra Denali 3500 CC SRW, Iridium Metallic, Duramax Allison Transmission
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03-30-2016, 04:00 AM
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New Member
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Royal Oak
Posts: 7
M.O.C. #18140
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Based on the responses, I had a hunch I was flirting with weight limitations hailung a 3160 Monty with a 3/4 ton Chevy Diesel pick up. Knowing at the moment I don't have the extra dollars to upgrade trucks, I did do a modification to the current truck installing Firestone airbags and an additional helper spring on each side of the rear of the truck.
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03-30-2016, 08:43 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Lake Gaston
Posts: 8,773
M.O.C. #12156
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by TLightning
My thoughts, if you want an honest answer is that anybody using a 3/4 ton truck to haul a 16,000 lb RV is over weight.
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Good thought.
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2002 3655 FL, 2005 3650RK
2010 3665RE, 2015 3910FB
F350 crew cab dually 6.7
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03-30-2016, 06:39 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Edgewood
Posts: 184
M.O.C. #14397
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I feel that you cannot have too much truck. Wife and I have been towing since 1966 and now have the best set up of all the rigs in our past.
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03-31-2016, 12:35 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Kville
Posts: 2,865
M.O.C. #7871
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by windrunner
... I did do a modification to the current truck installing Firestone airbags and an additional helper spring on each side of the rear of the truck....
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That won't help. You're going to have to break down and get a truck that can handle the weight.
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08-14-2016, 08:57 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Gardnerville
Posts: 1,281
M.O.C. #17163
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Had both.. Drw if the pin weight is over 2700 lbs... Put a gen in the bed, tool box or whatever. Srw advantage is when tires are needed, only 4, not 6..
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08-14-2016, 12:42 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Lake Gaston
Posts: 8,773
M.O.C. #12156
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Dually only for us.
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2002 3655 FL, 2005 3650RK
2010 3665RE, 2015 3910FB
F350 crew cab dually 6.7
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08-15-2016, 11:08 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Depends on temps
Posts: 1,648
M.O.C. #13157
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by windrunner
Based on the responses, I had a hunch I was flirting with weight limitations hailung a 3160 Monty with a 3/4 ton Chevy Diesel pick up. Knowing at the moment I don't have the extra dollars to upgrade trucks, I did do a modification to the current truck installing Firestone airbags and an additional helper spring on each side of the rear of the truck.
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Ron, Look at the door jam and see what the GAWR and the GVWR is. Take your truck and trailer to a scale, (truck stop, etc) and get your weights. The weights listed on the door jam are the LEGAL max weight of your truck. Air bags, extra leaf's only make a overloaded truck sit level.
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