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08-28-2021, 07:41 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Hagerstown
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M.O.C. #16013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Daryles
I once found DEF on sale at a Wal-Mart (don't remember where, we were traveling). It was on sale for $3 for a box. Checked the date code, 2014.
Pass.
Always check the date code.
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So how old is to old to use?
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08-28-2021, 08:01 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Florence
Posts: 963
M.O.C. #20472
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bshgto
So how old is to old to use?
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They say two years old, if you buy at a place they has a good to hog turn over you won’t see north then 6months by the date code.
I always check date codes before purchasing.
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08-28-2021, 09:27 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: McKinney
Posts: 7,363
M.O.C. #6433
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And the date code is not a simple month/day/year. You have to decipher their code. And the code format has varied over the years apparently. You can google DEF date code and find multiple sites to explain it. And different sites show at least two different date code formats for Blue DEF.
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08-28-2021, 09:57 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Alton
Posts: 2,898
M.O.C. #24086
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How long DEF is good for depends on how it is stored
@50⁰F, three years. @ 80⁰F 1year.
https://www.thedieselstop.com/thread...cation.426994/
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08-28-2021, 10:38 AM
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New Member
Join Date: May 2021
Location: Lebanon
Posts: 3
M.O.C. #28776
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DEF
With EFS card, I buy fuel and DEF at truck stop pumps (big rig lanes out back).
Current DEF price in Strafford, MO Love's is $3.18/gallon; at TA, Strafford it is $3.20.
Similar prices over the road throughout the U.S. - and diesel fuel is discounted far deeper than that found at Flying J.
NOTE: In a recent seven week (6000 Mile) trip, I saved more than @200.00 on diesel fuel purchases. Pricing, freshness of product (high turnover at truckstops), and convenience/safety are considerations for using truck stops and an Electronic Fleet Service card.
Google "TSD Logistics" for more data on their EFS card.
I would not buy DEF from Wal-Mart at $6-8 except in an emergency.
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08-29-2021, 08:18 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: SoCal
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M.O.C. #25842
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mhs4771
Well I put 115K on my '11 Duramax and currently have 30K on the '18 and about the only DEF either drank was Walmart Brand.
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In almost four years full timing we've never used anything but Walmart. First two years and 40K in a Sprinter based Class C and now about 25K in our Ford. Like you we've never had an issue. The nice thing about Walmart DEF is that the date is clearly labeled on the jug. The latest I've been buying hasn't been over a month old.
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08-29-2021, 08:45 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Centerville
Posts: 1,359
M.O.C. #9051
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jjwhite368
DEF in the truck lanes is fresher as they cycle through much more. You have no idea how long any DEF in a box has sat on the shelf or in a warehouse.
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If you don't know how to read date codes
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08-29-2021, 08:57 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Centerville
Posts: 1,359
M.O.C. #9051
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BB_TX
And the date code is not a simple month/day/year. You have to decipher their code. And the code format has varied over the years apparently. You can google DEF date code and find multiple sites to explain it. And different sites show at least two different date code formats for Blue DEF.
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Pretty simple for Peak Blue DEF
First two Digits 1, and 2 - where made
Digits 3 and 4 is the year plus one , so anything made in 2021 will have 22
Digits 5,6,7 = days remains in the year when manufactured .
The remaining digits are the batch code .
Never seen anything but those on Peak Blue DEF where I have bought it . I got this from calling Peak .
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08-29-2021, 02:36 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Granger TX
Posts: 2,598
M.O.C. #21044
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This is the jug of DEF that I bought at Walmart earlier this summer. It has been sitting in my hot garage and I intend to pour it out to kill the weeds on my fence line. The date tag simply reads "06.23.21"...no Captain Midnight secret decoder ring needed!!
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08-29-2021, 05:43 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Florence
Posts: 963
M.O.C. #20472
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Looks like someone used one of those old retail had label maker and stuck it on it at the store.
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08-29-2021, 06:00 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Granger TX
Posts: 2,598
M.O.C. #21044
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Well, you have a good point. They might have a high school kid popping those paper stickers on the jug before they go on the shelf - meaning this is the date it arrived at the store. I tried googling the “date tag” for Walmart DEF and could not find anything definitive on the Walmart site. Lots of technical data but nothing about the manf. date. It seems that the container, labeling and screw on spout went thru a design upgrade maybe couple years ago. The old containers had the “born on date” ( my term not theirs) stamped in black ink on the front. It was a “date” - not a code. In the new label design the date is no longer stamped. I can’t say for certainty what that date tag means. I will continue to use the Walmart DEF however.
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09-01-2021, 01:23 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Jacksonville
Posts: 384
M.O.C. #21993
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Walmart, cheep and the truck hasn't complained. We travel between FL and CA every year. I top off before we leave and carry 2 jugs in the bed to take us across, so nothing old sitting around. TA and Petro only for fuel, save big $$$ with the card.
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09-01-2021, 01:29 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Ardrossan
Posts: 729
M.O.C. #9261
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If the DEF is stored in a cool dry location and away from direct sunlight, it will last a long time.
Running two large Ag tractors and one diesel truck that use DEF and have never had problems.
Sometimes we get hung up on expiry dates, My tractors don't move over the winter months where temps can reach minus 40F. They still operate fine in the spring. Many large farmers buy it by the large drum 210 litres with no problems about age of product.
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09-01-2021, 02:45 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Albany
Posts: 409
M.O.C. #11972
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Until a couple weeks ago, I always bought my DEF from the Ford dealer. Yes, I might have been paying a little more for it than from another source but I knew that they rotated stock frequently. What I have learned is that DEF has a shelf life. That shelf life is shortened by exposure to sunlight and heat. Until my last trip my experience when towing was about 3,500 miles to a tank of DEF. That includes use of some DEF that had not been stored under the best of conditions. On my most recent trip I got 4,700 miles on a tank of DEF. That included 2,900 miles of heavy towing, 400 miles of light towing and the remainder local in town, non-towing mileage. In this most recent case, the DEF was almost empty when I filled it with new DEF from the dealer. As noted in the first sentence of this post, the reason I bought non-dealer DEF was because I needed to top up the tank and the nearest dealer was 50 away. I bought a jug at a truck stop and used a little of it to top the tank. No problems so far. I'll use the rest of that jug and then go back to DEF from the dealer.
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09-01-2021, 04:16 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Athens
Posts: 9
M.O.C. #11315
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Make sure you have them change out the air in your tires for nitrogen while you're filling the def tank with platinum!
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09-01-2021, 06:30 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Hereford,AZ
Posts: 93
M.O.C. #23139
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Just use a DEF Refractometer to tell if def is still good.
https://smile.amazon.com/s?k=def+ref...s_ts-doa-p_1_6
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09-01-2021, 09:05 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Orlando
Posts: 338
M.O.C. #22589
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DadsHemi
There is code on each box of def, it has date it was manufactures and what plant it came from.
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I always check the date, an auto parts store near my home was selling blue def that was 4 years old! I buy when I get low and let it run out because I am OCD like that. Life expectancy in the heat is very poor.
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09-02-2021, 06:54 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Brownwood
Posts: 86
M.O.C. #14197
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DEF Users
We DEF users are saving the planet one cardboard box and one plastic bottle at a time.
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09-02-2021, 07:31 PM
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#39
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
Posts: 7,671
M.O.C. #2283
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hosssmith
We DEF users are saving the planet one cardboard box and one plastic bottle at a time.
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DEF breaks NOx down into nitrogen and water. It doesn’t affect how much C02 a Diesel engine emits.
Lynwood
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01-15-2024, 10:47 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Jan 2022
Location: Bunnell
Posts: 95
M.O.C. #30397
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DEF Degrades Fast with heat and exposure to Sunlight. I use an inexpensive gravity DEF tester that I found on amazon to test quality. Always check dates on the box as a minimum. The platinum DEF seems to be much cleaner as it does not turn into flakes (I hear it has one additional thing in it) The added cost of the platinum can be offset by only one emissions repair.
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