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03-15-2024, 12:44 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Oct 2023
Location: Burnet
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M.O.C. #33533
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Gen-Y Hitch Conversion
Watched an interesting video on converting a 5th wheel hitch to a Gen-Y gooseneck type hitch. Has anyone on the forum made this change and if yes, would you recommend the change.
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Lloyd & Doris, 2022 3121 RL, 2024 Silverado High Country 2500, Gen-Y Executive Gooseneck Conversion.
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03-15-2024, 03:19 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: 1000 oaks
Posts: 978
M.O.C. #19630
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Why do you want a gooseneck instead of the kingpin?
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2011 2955RL Gen-Y Executive Kingpin
2022 GMC 2500HD Duramax/Alison
4X4 Crew Cab/Standard bed.
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03-15-2024, 04:49 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Carmichael - CA
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M.O.C. #4831
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Quote:
Originally Posted by prndl
Why do you want a gooseneck instead of the kingpin?
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The Gen Y is a 5th wheel pin box or, optionally, a gooseneck. I have to believe the OP meant the 5th wheel pin box type
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Originally Posted by Lloydt512
....Has anyone on the forum made this change....
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Member Drifty1 converted to the Gen Y Pin Box. You might PM him about it.
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Carl (n Susan)
There is more to life than fuel mileage.
2012 Montana 3700RL Big Sky Package towed by a 2015 Ford F350 6.7L PSD 4WD CC LWB
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03-15-2024, 05:19 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Oct 2023
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M.O.C. #33533
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I liked the fact you only have a ball type hitch in the truck bed so you gain a lot of carrying capacity, remove weight from truck, and the torsion mechanism in the pin box appears to reduce surging or jerking in the truck.
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Lloyd & Doris, 2022 3121 RL, 2024 Silverado High Country 2500, Gen-Y Executive Gooseneck Conversion.
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03-15-2024, 05:22 PM
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Established Member
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Location: Burnet
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M.O.C. #33533
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Yes, a gooseneck type hitch is the video I watched.
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Lloyd & Doris, 2022 3121 RL, 2024 Silverado High Country 2500, Gen-Y Executive Gooseneck Conversion.
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03-15-2024, 05:36 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Oct 2005
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M.O.C. #4831
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Be aware that using a gooseneck hitch voids your frame warranty unless it is a Reese Goose Box.
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Carl (n Susan)
There is more to life than fuel mileage.
2012 Montana 3700RL Big Sky Package towed by a 2015 Ford F350 6.7L PSD 4WD CC LWB
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03-15-2024, 10:16 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: 1000 oaks
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The reason I asked is because I just installed a Gen-Y kingpin. The gooseneck type of any manufacturer increases the leverage on the trailer mount. This could lead to frame problems. I pull with a 2022 GMC standard bed and have no issues with turning.
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2011 2955RL Gen-Y Executive Kingpin
2022 GMC 2500HD Duramax/Alison
4X4 Crew Cab/Standard bed.
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03-18-2024, 05:19 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Oct 2020
Location: West Haven
Posts: 62
M.O.C. #27351
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My husband has also been watching videos on the Gen-Y gooseneck. Our question is does the Gen-Y gooseneck torsion bar hitch reduce the transfer of energy from the truck bed to the 5th wheel? In other words...e.g. when you hit a pothole does it significantly reduce the shock from truck bed to 5th wheel? We hit a pothole that was so bad it knocked all of our clothes off the front closet rod. We also have independant suspension. Does the Gen-Y hitch absorb most of the shock or enough of the shock to make it worth the expense of changing. (btw...we are aware of the warranty issue with Montana)
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PamC
2021 Montana Legacy 3120RL with Super Solar Flex
2019 Ford F450 DRW 4x4 Anderson hitch
West Haven, Utah Part-Time
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03-20-2024, 01:10 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: Missoula
Posts: 139
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We installed the Reese Goose Box for our 5er. I did all of the research and felt that the Reese was a better option for us. There are some differences between the Gen Y and the Reese. We made the change in 2021 and have been very satisfied with it.
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Jack & Tanya Wenger
Missoula, MT
2006 Montana 2980RL
2004 Chev 2500 HD
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03-20-2024, 01:10 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Long Isalnd
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M.O.C. #23929
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May want to watch the recent YouTube videos from bigtruckbigrv. He just did a series of video from the Lippert frame factory. They explain why you shouldn’t convert the stock king pin as it adds to stress on the frame.
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Don and Kathleen
2019 Montana 3791RD 20th anniversary.
2014 Ram 3500 Dually CC, CTD, Aisin “Kasper”
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03-20-2024, 01:12 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Roseville
Posts: 266
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I went with the Reese Goosebox. Mainly because of the frame warranty. I like only having a ball in the truck to take out to utilize the full box. I was unable to remove the 5th wheel hitch due to health so this is great for me. Also, I have really noticed that the towing is better, no chunking.
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Jim and Carole
Roseville, MN
2018 RAM 3500 DRW, Diesel, Long Box, Air Lift Bags - 2020 Montana HC 381TH, Sailun S637
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03-20-2024, 02:54 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: Central
Posts: 90
M.O.C. #26744
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lloydt512
Watched an interesting video on converting a 5th wheel hitch to a Gen-Y gooseneck type hitch. Has anyone on the forum made this change and if yes, would you recommend the change.
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We have the Gen-Y Executive 5th wheel king pin and love it. I went with it in 2020 so it would work with our Pull-Rite auto slider for truck clearance while turning. They have a bolt on block to work with the Pull-Rite so you don’t have to use and fight with the Pull-Rite plate. Back then they did not have any rearward off set gooseneck balls for clearance so I didn’t even consider it. After feeling what it was like towing prior to installing the Gen-Y, I am completely a believer and major fan of Gen-Y! I called them and order directly and got a military discount as well.
Brinkley uses Gen-Y. Here is a video where they ran independent testing. https://youtu.be/1X7gCpF4hpc?si=TKmImY1qQG6cbXDA
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2002 3280RL, Gen-Y Executive Pin Box, 2009 F-250 6.4 Diesel
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03-20-2024, 04:54 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: Missoula
Posts: 139
M.O.C. #26938
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We went with the B&W rollover ball hitch. Then went with the Reese. Love the fact that i have full use of the box. Nothing to take in or out of the box. Just put the ball in. We have the 6' box. BW sells a 4" extension ball that you need for tighter corners and it works perfect. The Reese also smooths out the towing issues on rougher highways. No more bouncing around. Strongly recommend it.
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Jack & Tanya Wenger
Missoula, MT
2006 Montana 2980RL
2004 Chev 2500 HD
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03-21-2024, 08:17 AM
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New Member
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Midlothian
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M.O.C. #25237
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Frame Flex
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scootsk
May want to watch the recent YouTube videos from bigtruckbigrv. He just did a series of video from the Lippert frame factory. They explain why you shouldn’t convert the stock king pin as it adds to stress on the frame.
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The interesting comment on that series, which I watched, is that most of these the problems are occurring on units rated at greater than 17,000 #’s. I have the Anderson hitch and my unit the 3121rl is never over a low weighed 14,000 #.
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03-21-2024, 09:11 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Fargo
Posts: 225
M.O.C. #19032
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Carl n Susan
Be aware that using a gooseneck hitch voids your frame warranty unless it is a Reese Goose Box.
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I talked to Gen Y about this before ordering. They asked about my Monte before they would sell me one. The hitch I bought is made for the Lippert pin box I have and in no way exerts any more leverage on the pin box than my king pin did… as a matter of fact because of the softened ride (torsion system) it is better for everything.
Since warranty doesn’t apply to me (20 year old rig) it’s a moot point in my case, but they told me that in no way does their hitch affect any warranty.
Reese made a deal with Lippert to accept the goose box as “ok” because Reese sent them drawings and paid $$$ for the privilege. To date Gen Y has not done so.
The reason I went with the gooseneck option is because I have the puck system in my Ram and a really wanted my box back. The reason for Gen Y vs Reese is because I got the Gen Y factory direct as a returned item for 50% the price of new. ($800). It looks like new. One of those “right place at the right time” deals.
I also own a 30’ flatbed gooseneck trailer so dealing with gooseneck hitches is not a big deal for me.
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