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11-19-2018, 04:48 PM
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how do you tell what amperage your breaker is? here is a pic of my new 2019 3120RL
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11-19-2018, 04:49 PM
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One more question, When these breakers blow, are they resetable or do they burn out?
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11-19-2018, 04:55 PM
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Montana Master
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Factory breakers are only 50amp,thats why its recommend to install 80amp as thats what Lipperts specs call for.
Yes I think the factory ones will self reset, whereas a Bussman brand 80amp,you can purchase with manual reset on it.
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11-19-2018, 05:31 PM
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what does the wiring installation look like on the Bussman 80 amp breaker?
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11-19-2018, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Whitty
what does the wiring installation look like on the Bussman 80 amp breaker?
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You will likely have to drill the terminals to 1/4” to get them on the 80A breaker. I actually went one bit size larger.
Mark
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11-19-2018, 06:02 PM
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Montana Master
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Whitty
how do you tell what amperage your breaker is? here is a pic of my new 2019 3120RL
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The amp rating should be stamped on the side of the breaker. These are cheaply made with a piece of bi-metal that bends one way when it gets too hot and breaks the circuit. Then it cools and bends back and reconnects the circuit. Thereby being “auto reset”.
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11-21-2018, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by MARK A
I ordered an 80A circuit breaker for the hydraulic pump on the trailer. The kick-out while on battery power is gone. It was more of an annoyance than a problem but it is solved.
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Ok so we are Part time and just bought a new 2018 Montana 3121RL but not sure where the issue is with the original breaker and what exactly is the problem?
If we just use our unit 60 nights per year would it pay to buy the new breaker and install it in front compartment?
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11-21-2018, 01:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wicked1
Ok so we are Part time and just bought a new 2018 Montana 3121RL but not sure where the issue is with the original breaker and what exactly is the problem?
If we just use our unit 60 nights per year would it pay to buy the new breaker and install it in front compartment?
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That’s more than we use ours right now, eventually I imagine the 50A to fail, so I replaced it. I would replace it or have the 80A on hand in the event of a failure. The slides OR the level-up won’t work if it fails to reset.
Mark
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11-21-2018, 02:26 PM
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thanks for posting the discussion and pictures. I had bought the 80 amp breaker after ready lots of posts on this, but then I wasn’t sure which one to replace. My 2018 3120 looks just like Whitty’s.
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11-21-2018, 03:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MARK A
You will likely have to drill the terminals to 1/4” to get them on the 80A breaker. I actually went one bit size larger.
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Ok so you can’t just wire in the 80amp with existing wires?
When you say drill the terminals what exactly does that mean.
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11-21-2018, 03:35 PM
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I just bought one on Amazon. It was $18 with free prime shipping.
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11-21-2018, 03:49 PM
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11-21-2018, 03:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wicked1
Ok so we are Part time and just bought a new 2018 Montana 3121RL but not sure where the issue is with the original breaker and what exactly is the problem?
If we just use our unit 60 nights per year would it pay to buy the new breaker and install it in front compartment?
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The breakers are inexpensive and relatively easy to replace. But there is no particular hurry to jump in and do the replacement. They don’t suddenly fail and leave you stranded not being able to move the slides. If and when they start to fail the slides will begin to move intermittently. They will move some, stop for a few seconds, move some more, stop a few seconds, ....... until they reach full travel. Plan the mod to do it at your leisure and to fit your schedule. Mine worked fine for 3 years before the problem began.
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11-21-2018, 04:46 PM
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Quote:
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Ok so you can’t just wire in the 80amp with existing wires?
When you say drill the terminals what exactly does that mean.
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Yes you can use the existing wires. The lugs on the 80A are slightly larger than the holes in the terminals on the wires. Easy chore to simply drill them larger.
It’s truly a 15 minute job start to finish.
Mark
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11-21-2018, 04:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WA_Steve
thanks for posting the discussion and pictures. I had bought the 80 amp breaker after ready lots of posts on this, but then I wasn’t sure which one to replace. My 2018 3120 looks just like Whitty’s.
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Just follow the big wire from the hyd. Pump to the breaker it’s hooked to and hook the new one up the same. Done deal!
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11-21-2018, 04:50 PM
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New circuit breaker
So our breaker was starting to go out. Just like described above. I decided to change it out while camping. Fairly simple task. I did have to drill out the connector holes to 1/4 inch to make them fit on the new breaker. After that everything works great.
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11-21-2018, 04:51 PM
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Quote:
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Not sure about the size of wire it will accept, and you will have to chop the terminals off your wires.
Mark
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11-21-2018, 05:08 PM
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Here is the link for the Bussman
Bussmann CB181F-80 Waterproof High Amp Flush Mount Type I Circuit Breaker (80 Amp), 1 Pack https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008QDI9HY..._vnF9Bb9BBA09M
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11-21-2018, 05:32 PM
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You can find them at any marine shop for trolling motors if you are in a hurry.
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11-21-2018, 05:46 PM
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It's just one of MANY things that Keystone has done to cause on-going annoyances among owners (and previous owners such as myself) . Obviously whoever makes these penny-pinching decisions has never had to live with the aggrivation.
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