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11-03-2018, 08:52 AM
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Established Member
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: johnstown
Posts: 46
M.O.C. #21280
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gearbox oil leak over slides
Hey everyone, we have a 2018 305RL with 3 slides. The gear box above all 3 slides leaked oil onto the rubber membrane causing it to blister about the size of a 50-cent piece, one of my concerns is that the blister catches and rips open when slides are open and closed, the other concern is why is gearbox leaking and if it runs out of oil will continued use of gear box destroy it. Unit is still under 1 year factory warranty. Here is what Keystone service rep. told me they would do. 1- Put a drip tray under gearbox to catch excess oil because it was overfilled at the factory. (I want the gear boxes replaced) 2- Cut out the effected area blistered by the oil and patch it. (I want the rubber over the entire slide replaced) Keystone was adamant that this is all they are prepared to do. Warranty is up Feb. 2019 and that is all the longer they will stand behind this issue. What has been anyone else experience as I am sure this happens frequently. Thanks in advance for feedback
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11-03-2018, 09:22 AM
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Montana Master
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Location: Bastrop
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M.O.C. #20753
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You have to get your dealer to lobby to get the roof membranes replaced. That is the only way I know of folks getting them replaced.
This is one of the reasons why I tell folks to avoid HCs
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11-03-2018, 10:24 AM
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Site Team
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Carl (n Susan)
There is more to life than fuel mileage.
2012 Montana 3700RL Big Sky Package towed by a 2015 Ford F350 6.7L PSD 4WD CC LWB
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11-03-2018, 10:57 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Lake Gaston
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Unfortunately the newer high countries are having to deal with this.
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11-03-2018, 02:14 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Fall Creek
Posts: 1,337
M.O.C. #3699
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Its bad enough that my 2015 has just one of those electric slide assemblies on the bedroom slide. This is not an improvement to the total Montana package. I lost it this year and we don't use the Montana as much as a full timer does. Doesn't Keystone know how important reliability in a mechanism is rather that cost!!!
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11-03-2018, 05:28 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Bee Branch
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Was this topic discussed at rally? What was the response?
We are about to be full time so much more important topic to me now!
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Bee Branch, AR.
2017 Ram 1 ton diesel duallyCrew Cab/Long Bed
2018 Montana High Country 381TH Garage Full of Toys
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11-03-2018, 05:47 PM
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Montana Master
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Location: Bastrop
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Jim, I missed that vendor. If your's is affected it will show up this summer in Carlsbad. You will most likely be out of warranty by then.
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11-03-2018, 09:39 PM
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Montana Master
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M.O.C. #20693
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffba
Jim, I missed that vendor. If your's is affected it will show up this summer in Carlsbad. You will most likely be out of warranty by then.
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With no dealers close by no doubt!!!! Plus who wants to take their rig into a shop when they are full timers anyway? Guess I will just take care of the repairs myself. At least Keystone did send me the drip pans. A band aid approach in my oppion but at least it will stave off the damage for a while......
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Bee Branch, AR.
2017 Ram 1 ton diesel duallyCrew Cab/Long Bed
2018 Montana High Country 381TH Garage Full of Toys
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11-04-2018, 07:36 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Ferndale
Posts: 273
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I have a HC 2014 and don’t have that problem, nor so far any issues other than a few minor things like molding coming down. That is due to they use stapes. This may be an issue on newer models but to say stay away from HC seems a little extreme.
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11-04-2018, 08:05 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Islip Terrace
Posts: 405
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I installed the drip pans, agreed not a great solution but it only took an hour. I cleaned up the bubbled areas with some alcohol & it shrunk them a little plus added slide toppers & will keep an eye on them. I try to avoid the dealer at all costs, my wife says to complain to Keystone, Ill just keep trying to hit lotto, better chance at results.
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11-05-2018, 08:22 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Medford
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I’m with you, Renegade. Every time I take it to the dealer for repairs, it comes back (after 2 months) with more things wrong than when it went in. I am lucky in that I have adequate skills, and am healthy enough to do my own repairs. I can’t even imagine the goofballs at my dealer removing the slide and replacing its roof!!! They can barely replace a light bulb!
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11-05-2018, 09:06 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Islip Terrace
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M.O.C. #22165
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike117
I have a HC 2014 and don’t have that problem, nor so far any issues other than a few minor things like molding coming down. That is due to they use stapes. This may be an issue on newer models but to say stay away from HC seems a little extreme.
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What pisses us off is we bought a second camper,also a thor product (fuel 305) & there are no issues??? I did have to straighten a drawer, but no leaks & everything works, same year too. So they can do it if they want to or have some trained mechanics assemblying them.
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11-05-2018, 03:33 PM
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New Member
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Eagle
Posts: 7
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Keystone agreed to patch our 2018 310RE HC slide membranes. Sent a repair company from Portland to Boise dealership. Mine another rig were scheduled for the same day. The patch was unacceptable and two of the slides were missed altogether. Dealership went to bat for us and Keystone has agreed to replace all three slide roof membranes at no cost. Drip pans were installed about a month ago. Roof to be replaced this week.
My point is squeaky wheel gets the oil. If you are willing to let Keystone just patch the roof that's what they'll do. I don't understand why a recall has not been issued.
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11-05-2018, 07:32 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Islip Terrace
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M.O.C. #22165
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There should be a recall, we saw one new in the lot already leaking. I want to go back and post it in the camper. You would think they would at least fix the ones they have.
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11-06-2018, 11:44 AM
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Montana Master
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Location: Bastrop
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I just tell folks don't do High Country's
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11-06-2018, 11:53 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Fall Creek
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M.O.C. #3699
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffba
I just tell folks don't do High Country's
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Remember that some Montana's have that damn cable system too.
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2015 Montana 3440RL Legacy Edition, G614's, Pressure Pro TPMS, Dish Tailgaters
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11-06-2018, 12:29 PM
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Montana Master
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M.O.C. #20753
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RKassl
Remember that some Montana's have that damn cable system too.
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Okay just say no to Norco
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11-06-2018, 02:17 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Bee Branch
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M.O.C. #20693
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffba
I just tell folks don't do High Country's
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Then tell them to make the 380/381 High country floor plan in a Montana!!!!!!Grrrrrrrr
Uppty Montana owners shhhhheeesssshhh
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James & Irene Wilson
Bee Branch, AR.
2017 Ram 1 ton diesel duallyCrew Cab/Long Bed
2018 Montana High Country 381TH Garage Full of Toys
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11-06-2018, 03:25 PM
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Montana Master
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Location: Bastrop
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Know the feeling. Really like the 373RD. DW really like the kitchen. No island, stove not on an island, but will not touch an HC
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11-06-2018, 05:00 PM
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Montana Master
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Location: Fall Creek
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mtlakejim
Then tell them to make the 380/381 High country floor plan in a Montana!!!!!!Grrrrrrrr
Uppty Montana owners shhhhheeesssshhh
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Please don't include me in that group!
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