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01-21-2020, 04:08 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Invermere
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M.O.C. #20869
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Roofing membrane
I'm wondering if anyone can tell me if it is safe to paint a waterproof membrane on the roof fabric of a 2003 Montana 5th wheel. Our coating is worn off of the fabric to the point of being almost bare. What products can be used to safely re-coat the fabric? I guess we need to get this done before I sustain damage to the fabric itself.
TomandColleen
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01-21-2020, 04:59 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Folsom, California
Posts: 575
M.O.C. #21903
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There are a number of products out there, Dicor, Hengs, etc. Google "RV Roof coating"
If yours is too deteriated, it may need to be replaced rather than coated. Probably should consult with an expert to determine what to do.
Call Ron at RV Roof Repair 916-284-7067.
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01-21-2020, 06:20 PM
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Montana Fan
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Check out RVRoof.com. We had great results on our last Montana.
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01-22-2020, 10:51 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Rancho Santa Margarita
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M.O.C. #13025
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Are you sure you need to do anything at all. Mine is a 2005 and in good shape. I don't put anything on it but soap and water.
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2004 Chevy Silverado 2500 HD, D/A, SRW, SB
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01-23-2020, 10:17 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Centerville
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M.O.C. #9051
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Quote:
Originally Posted by h2ojocky
Are you sure you need to do anything at all. Mine is a 2005 and in good shape. I don't put anything on it but soap and water.
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My 2008 still looks pretty good ,but the last couple years , I have started seeing white residue on my driveway after a rainstorm. IMO thats the beginning of the end. Yours being 3 years older I would think you are also starting to get some deterioration.
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01-26-2020, 11:51 AM
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New Member
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Invermere
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Thanks for your reply. I have talked to a number of people about my roof. Four companies have come to look at it. The fabric on mine is still ok, but the rubber coating has deteriorated, causing the "white residue" which you see on your driveway. My residue started showing up about 2 years ago. If you are seeing this now, then I suggest you have someone look at iyour roof fairly soon. The guy that I chose to do my re-coating has been doing it for about 20 years and his price is pretty reasonable. The quotes which I received (in Arizona) ranged from $350.00 to as high as $1,200.00. My guy is charging $450.00 to thoroughly clean the roof, seal around all vents and apply 2 coats of Elastomeric roof sealer. Some of the other contractors said this wouldn't stick and would only last for a year or less (they also wanted a lot more money to "do it right"). My guy says I should get at least 5 years out of it, even in the Arizona desert. I painted my stucco house with an Elastomeric product about 4 years ago (without cleaning it) and have had zero issues with it, so I decided to take the chance. I'll let you know how I make out!
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01-26-2020, 12:47 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Centerville
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M.O.C. #9051
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomandcolleen
Thanks for your reply. I have talked to a number of people about my roof. Four companies have come to look at it. The fabric on mine is still ok, but the rubber coating has deteriorated, causing the "white residue" which you see on your driveway. My residue started showing up about 2 years ago. If you are seeing this now, then I suggest you have someone look at iyour roof fairly soon. The guy that I chose to do my re-coating has been doing it for about 20 years and his price is pretty reasonable. The quotes which I received (in Arizona) ranged from $350.00 to as high as $1,200.00. My guy is charging $450.00 to thoroughly clean the roof, seal around all vents and apply 2 coats of Elastomeric roof sealer. Some of the other contractors said this wouldn't stick and would only last for a year or less (they also wanted a lot more money to "do it right"). My guy says I should get at least 5 years out of it, even in the Arizona desert. I painted my stucco house with an Elastomeric product about 4 years ago (without cleaning it) and have had zero issues with it, so I decided to take the chance. I'll let you know how I make out!
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Pretty sure mine doe not have much time left, will address it this fall ,before another winter. Thanks for the info. Not sure I want to spend a great amount on this 12 year old fifth wheel. May try one of the more mentioned products that are painted on . I keep a pretty close eye on the roof ,touching up the chalk, and any signs of tears or whatever. So far no signs of any leaks.
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01-29-2020, 01:42 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Lake Havasu City
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M.O.C. #20488
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomandcolleen
Thanks for your reply. I have talked to a number of people about my roof. Four companies have come to look at it. The fabric on mine is still ok, but the rubber coating has deteriorated, causing the "white residue" which you see on your driveway. My residue started showing up about 2 years ago. If you are seeing this now, then I suggest you have someone look at iyour roof fairly soon. The guy that I chose to do my re-coating has been doing it for about 20 years and his price is pretty reasonable. The quotes which I received (in Arizona) ranged from $350.00 to as high as $1,200.00. My guy is charging $450.00 to thoroughly clean the roof, seal around all vents and apply 2 coats of Elastomeric roof sealer. Some of the other contractors said this wouldn't stick and would only last for a year or less (they also wanted a lot more money to "do it right"). My guy says I should get at least 5 years out of it, even in the Arizona desert. I painted my stucco house with an Elastomeric product about 4 years ago (without cleaning it) and have had zero issues with it, so I decided to take the chance. I'll let you know how I make out!
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There are some RV roof people advertising in Bullhead City that they will do it for $500. Not saying what they use. Not sure where you live. I live I Havasu
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01-29-2020, 02:24 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Centerville
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M.O.C. #9051
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Quote:
Originally Posted by oddjobal
There are some RV roof people advertising in Bullhead City that they will do it for $500. Not saying what they use. Not sure where you live. I live I Havasu
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Thats good to know, would you have any more info what RV people that would be ?? We are staying in Bullhead City for a couple weeks starting mid Feb. I would like to contact them on what their process is while I am there . Thanks
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01-30-2020, 06:23 PM
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Montana Master
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I am going to look into the liquid rubber like McRod has done. I picked up my trailer today from storage and I do have quite a bit of white residue. Has anyone else used this product? My roof is still good but if I can put some liquid rubber on to extend the life I might do it.
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2004 Chevy Silverado 2500 HD, D/A, SRW, SB
2005 2955RL, Pullrite Superglide 16K hitch. Bridgestone Duravis R500 tires. EZ Flex Equilizers with wet bolts.EMS HW50C, Disk brakes
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01-30-2020, 10:46 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Lake Havasu City
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M.O.C. #20488
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roof coating
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Originally Posted by PSFORD99
Thats good to know, would you have any more info what RV people that would be ?? We are staying in Bullhead City for a couple weeks starting mid Feb. I would like to contact them on what their process is while I am there . Thanks
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I contacted the add. The guys name is Jake Lee Johnson 619 343 7461. The price he is saying is $500 His reply to me : 619-343-7461 Jake thank you. hope it works out
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2012 Montana Mountaineer 295RKD
2006 Dodge Megacab 2500 5.9 Diesel
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01-31-2020, 01:10 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Englewood
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomandcolleen
Thanks for your reply. I have talked to a number of people about my roof. Four companies have come to look at it. The fabric on mine is still ok, but the rubber coating has deteriorated, causing the "white residue" which you see on your driveway. My residue started showing up about 2 years ago. If you are seeing this now, then I suggest you have someone look at iyour roof fairly soon. The guy that I chose to do my re-coating has been doing it for about 20 years and his price is pretty reasonable. The quotes which I received (in Arizona) ranged from $350.00 to as high as $1,200.00. My guy is charging $450.00 to thoroughly clean the roof, seal around all vents and apply 2 coats of Elastomeric roof sealer. Some of the other contractors said this wouldn't stick and would only last for a year or less (they also wanted a lot more money to "do it right"). My guy says I should get at least 5 years out of it, even in the Arizona desert. I painted my stucco house with an Elastomeric product about 4 years ago (without cleaning it) and have had zero issues with it, so I decided to take the chance. I'll let you know how I make out!
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It is EPDM Rubber and chalking is normal The Chalk is just white pigment used to color the roof so it is only cosmetic
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01-31-2020, 02:04 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Austin
Posts: 226
M.O.C. #18363
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomandcolleen
I'm wondering if anyone can tell me if it is safe to paint a waterproof membrane on the roof fabric of a 2003 Montana 5th wheel. Our coating is worn off of the fabric to the point of being almost bare. What products can be used to safely re-coat the fabric? I guess we need to get this done before I sustain damage to the fabric itself.
TomandColleen
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Another product you may try is Henry's. It's sold at Home Depot.
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01-31-2020, 04:35 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Folsom, California
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M.O.C. #21903
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Quote:
Originally Posted by McRod
Another product you may try is Henry's. It's sold at Home Depot.
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I've used both Hengs and Dicor (specific to EDPM rv roof material). Both dry to a very thin coating. I'll need to re-do the Hengs soon...lasted 3+ years. Some of the others are much thicker, I'm sure they would last longer.
Labor's the same no matter which you use, so better off using higher quality materials and only do it once.
Don't think I'd use the elastomopheric coating from Home Depot on EDPM.
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01-31-2020, 04:46 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: 1000 oaks
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M.O.C. #19630
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This is the Henry's you want.
887 Tropi-Cool 100% Silicone White Roof Coating
$269 @ Home Depot and over $500 on Amazon
I'm going to put it on in a couple of weeks. All good reviews from RV applications.
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01-31-2020, 06:10 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Centerville
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M.O.C. #9051
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Quote:
Originally Posted by oddjobal
I contacted the add. The guys name is Jake Lee Johnson 619 343 7461. The price he is saying is $500 His reply to me : 619-343-7461 Jake thank you. hope it works out
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Great. Thank you. I will contact him when I get down there, and see what process he does, and what product.
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01-31-2020, 06:27 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Rancho Santa Margarita
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M.O.C. #13025
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prndl let me know how it goes and how much you used. Are you planning on putting it over the caulking around vents and A/C?
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Russ and Linda, So. California
2004 Chevy Silverado 2500 HD, D/A, SRW, SB
2005 2955RL, Pullrite Superglide 16K hitch. Bridgestone Duravis R500 tires. EZ Flex Equilizers with wet bolts.EMS HW50C, Disk brakes
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01-31-2020, 09:23 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: 1000 oaks
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M.O.C. #19630
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Quote:
Originally Posted by h2ojocky
prndl let me know how it goes and how much you used. Are you planning on putting it over the caulking around vents and A/C?
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From the instructions it looks like I will use 4-4.5 gallons for my 33" trailer and two slides for one coat. I am going to buy two 5 gallon buckets and do it with a second coat on the following day. If I have any leftover it is still cheaper than getting one large bucket and adding additional Gallons at $60 each.
I am going to put it over the caulking and the eternabond. From the comments from the people who have used it that is the way to go. If there is an area that has a big gob of dicor I will probably shave it down or remove it all together. There is a special Henry 100% silicone caulk and crack sealant to use prior to the final application but I don't have any cracks and/or other problem to make me think I need to use it.
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2022 GMC 2500HD Duramax/Alison
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02-16-2020, 02:57 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Rancho Santa Margarita
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Prndl please post photos when you are done and let me know how it went and what you think.
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2004 Chevy Silverado 2500 HD, D/A, SRW, SB
2005 2955RL, Pullrite Superglide 16K hitch. Bridgestone Duravis R500 tires. EZ Flex Equilizers with wet bolts.EMS HW50C, Disk brakes
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