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11-07-2013, 02:16 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Winfield
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M.O.C. #6846
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Directv Unexpected Surprise
So in the course of investigating the various Directv receiver box to television connections that will be required in the new rig, I was perusing the on-line manuals to see what I had available and what would work best. At the S&B we currently have one HD receiver, two Directv SD receivers and two antiquated Phillips SD receivers. I kept seeing the message on the Directv web site that we are eligible for a free upgrade and had no idea what it meant. Our older HD model receiver just got replaced since it was having major troubles with the new SWM satellite receiver dish. It was done at no charge since we pay the extra $7.99 a month for the protection plan. I figured out that evidently this protection plan allows for free equipment upgrades every two years which I did not know about. So I placed an order for a HD DVR receiver which usually costs $199 and got it for free. When it arrives I will de-activate one of the prehistoric SD boxes and use the new DVR in the living room at home and the other HD in our bedroom. This will then give us two HD receivers for the rig now which will allow for HDMI cable hookups. The net result will be a $4 a month additional charge on the bill since we are paying $6 a month for the extra SD box which will be de-activated and the new HD box will cost $10 a month. Hopefully it arrives before Thanksgiving! If so, and you need me for anything, I can be found beneath the awning watching the games on the outside entertainment center in HD!! Yippeeeeeee! Life is GOOD!
Bingo
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11-07-2013, 02:45 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Walla Walla
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Just received my free new receiver from Direct Tv for the outside TV location, easy set up and new format, works great, have it in my shop at the moment till we leave for AZ. Free is alway's good
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11-07-2013, 04:42 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Colorado Springs
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Nothing in life is free.
Bingo, that sounds like a lot of thinking. That would make my head hurt.
Saving money is a good thing. Excellent practice for when you retire
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11-07-2013, 05:35 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Winfield
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by CORattler
Nothing in life is free.
Bingo, that sounds like a lot of thinking. That would make my head hurt.
Saving money is a good thing. Excellent practice for when you retire
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I agree, particularly when one considers that I have had Directv for over 10 years at more than $100 a month. They ought to give me a bunch more free, but that is business!
Bingo
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11-07-2013, 07:41 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
Posts: 20,229
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same here Bingo. We have the protection plan which has worked well for us and our next free upgrade in in December 2013.
We have the SWM set up in the house but use the Non SWM in the Montana.
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11-07-2013, 07:53 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Winfield
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Ours is the opposite Rich. They put a new SWM dish on the rig, which apparently would not work with the older HD receiver we had. It gave an error code and said to contact Directv, which I did and they said the code meant a new receiver was needed. The same receiver still worked fine at the house on the non-SWM dish when we got back home. The new receiver works at the house, and I will be checking this weekend to make sure it works in the rig. All this trouble because I left the perfectly fine, operating dish on the trade-in. If it works in the rig, I will be very happy with the ability to watch HD on all tv's. Even though I will have to move the bedroom receiver to the outside television, I can live with that.
Bingo
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11-08-2013, 02:22 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2007
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Beyond the SWM technology is the new DTV receiver that supports Genie. It is I believe an HR50 receiver that works with SWM, and with that you can add mini-receivers (really small). The Genie technology allows you to record up to 5 programs and a major increase in memory. If you're getting a new receiver with support receivers look into the Genie and ask DTV for that rather than just a new HD DVR receiver. It's really a great setup and I believe you can get incentives for about a year or so to defray the additional monthly charge for Genie. Good luck Bingo.
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11-08-2013, 02:40 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Winfield
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I will need the good luck Dennis, simply trying to figure out how the new addition (DVR) works. Thank goodness for a technologically adept teenage daughter!!!
Bingo
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11-08-2013, 02:46 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2007
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With the new Genie setup, you can record in one room, watch in another. The main receiver room allows for picture in picture too.
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11-08-2013, 02:48 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
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Presently we have 1 HD H24-700, 2 HD H24-100's and one HD DVR H-24 500. We are SWM in the house and Non SWM in the Montana. We are SWM in the house because we use 4 (or more) receivers and only two in the Montana and because we got the non SWM set up free. It requires a different LNB with 4 outputs where the SWM has 1 output and the SWM module in the home.
We do not have all Genie ready Tv's in the home or the Montana so we would need the mini genie.
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11-08-2013, 02:54 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Winfield
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What is a Genie ready television? (Insert Barbara Eden joke here??????)
Bingo
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11-08-2013, 04:09 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
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Better understood if you go to the directv web site and let them explain it.
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11-08-2013, 06:38 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Winfield
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Count me out on the Genie, did as Rich suggested and the first thing it required was a SWiM installation which we do not have at the house.
Bingo
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11-08-2013, 07:43 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
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We do not have SWM in the Montana but do in the house so we cam have it in the house but not in the Montana..
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11-08-2013, 03:00 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Okeechobee
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Hi
We went to Direct TV when Dish decided they couldn’t remove some items from our account that I didn’t order.
So I removed them by closing the account.
For about 6 months after we got the 5th wheel we were moving the Direct TV receiver from the house to the trailer when we traveled.
Then my wife called the guy we deal with and ask him what we had to do to continue to receive the local stations when we were out of the area.
He set us up with a second receiver and told us how to change the location when we were out of area and wanted the local stations.
This increased our monthly charge 4 bucks to $53 a month.
But best of all wife is happy. When wife is happy every body is happy. When wife is not happy nobody is happy. LOL
Phil P
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11-09-2013, 02:08 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
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we are now in central Florida near Disneyworld. Our S&B is in Northern Ohio and our Local Stations are the Cleveland, Ohio spot beam. As we are speaking we are watching the morning Local news on the Tampa spot beam. We have been doing this for the 7 seasons we have been in this area and prior to that the locals wherever we were at in TX, AZ. The locals are changed while we are still on the phone with Directv. We have neighbors that are on the Dish system and they also have no problem with the local spot beam. Such is life.
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11-20-2013, 08:28 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Woodland
Posts: 476
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We installed the Genie at home (an HR-34, which Direct has replaced with the HR-44)this fall. The HR-34 has 1TB of hard drive storage, about 4 times what our old DVR had. I can record so much more that I never get around to watching than I could before. Either with the mini-receivers, or with DVRs in other rooms, the Genie in the "whole home" mode enables viewing of recorded programming from all DVRs in all rooms. However, that very cool function requires a wi-fi environment, something most of us lack in our Montanas (although maybe a smart phone with an unlimited data plan would suffice).
Bingo, you should consider the Genie for your home setup. Keep the DVRs (if they're SWM capable), rather than replacing them with the mini-receivers, unless space is limited. The old DVRs provide that much more recording capacity and easily travel in the Montana. If you've been a long-time customer, I've found Direct to be very open to providing "free stuff."
Rich, it sounds like your new Montana is already wired with dual cable runs, but if not, getting a SWM LNB on eBay is pretty easy. After the new LNB is installed on the dish, SWM in the trailer is very nice. You need a power inserter in-line and you must replace the splitter with Direct's SWM version. After that, one cable to each dual-tuner receiver is all you need, allowing (at least in my case) dual tuners using the existing cabling in the Montana.
Bill
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11-20-2013, 09:25 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Winfield
Posts: 7,327
M.O.C. #6846
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Bill,
Last night was the first time I actually used the record function, and that was only because the youngest daughter wanted a show recorded each week. Not even sure if I did that right, guess I will have to see if it recorded. Ironically, after we received the HD-DVR, we then found out that we did not have a dual line to the DVR so a tech had to come out and remedy that situation. Don't need the dual line now, since we now have SWiM at the house. This makes me happy since I will not have to either reset or reconfigure the receivers each time they move. So now, even thought I am Genie ready, I really do not see the use for it with our viewing habits.
Bingo
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11-21-2013, 03:49 AM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Bristol
Posts: 72
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What antenna are you using with the direct tv on the Montana?
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11-21-2013, 06:43 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Winfield
Posts: 7,327
M.O.C. #6846
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I am using a Winegard Travler SK-SWM3 autoseek automatic dish that is mounted on the roof of the rig.
Bingo
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