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10-13-2017, 04:22 AM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Ligonier
Posts: 80
M.O.C. #20630
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Class A license need
Is everyone finding they need a non commercial driving license to tow a Montana. My F350 dully and Montana have a gross limit of 30,000 pounds. Does everyone upgrade their license?
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10-13-2017, 04:26 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Lake Gaston
Posts: 8,773
M.O.C. #12156
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Just a regular license for me
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Mike and Lorraine
2002 3655 FL, 2005 3650RK
2010 3665RE, 2015 3910FB
F350 crew cab dually 6.7
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10-13-2017, 05:06 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Hanover
Posts: 1,473
M.O.C. #13325
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Read your state's laws carefully. Unless you're towing commercially, in most states you won't need anything special. There are a few that want you to have at least an endorsement of some kind. Most don't.
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10-13-2017, 05:45 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
Posts: 7,670
M.O.C. #2283
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Not in Va. you can drive any RV in Va on your regular drivers license.
Lynwood
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10-13-2017, 08:05 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Depends on temps
Posts: 1,648
M.O.C. #13157
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In Texas they have what is called a Non-CDL drivers license. A Non-CDL class B and a Non-CDL class A. The differences are what you are towing and the weight of the combination.
My GVWR combination is 27,400 and the trailer is over 10,000lbs so I need a class A. I have a Texas Non-CDL class A.
In Texas a class C is only good for 26,000lbs.
Do your own research based on your home state. If you are legal in your home state you are good in the US.
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2012 Ram Laramie 3500 DRW 4x4 3.73 Tow Max Pkg B&W Companion 60 gal RDS aux fuel tank. 2014 Montana 3150RL, 2 A/C's, Leather, 6 Point Jacks, Splendede WD2100XC, Mor/ryde X-Factor, Duravis 250 tires with TST 507RV monitors. 2 x Honda EU2000's
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10-13-2017, 08:31 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Beloit
Posts: 283
M.O.C. #17535
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Go to this website - it has compiled the requirements for RV's in all 50 states
http://changingears.com/rv-sec-state-rv-license.shtml
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Steve & Lisa
2015 Montana High Country 353 RL | Sailuns | Kodiak Disc brakes
2015 F-350 DRW Crew Cab | Reese Goosebox
Retired and Lovin’ it!
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10-13-2017, 08:53 AM
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Site Team
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Oro Valley
Posts: 4,085
M.O.C. #20477
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Great info - thanks!
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2018 3160RL
"Life is too short to stay indoors, enjoy the ride!"
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11-10-2017, 06:42 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: LAKE ELSINORE
Posts: 25
M.O.C. #15942
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In California any trailer or 5th wheel that has a GVWR of 15,000 lbs or more requires a commercial or non-commercial class A license.
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11-10-2017, 06:48 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Vancouver Island
Posts: 894
M.O.C. #14417
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In British Columbia we require an endorsement on our drivers license or a Class A if the trailer weighs more than 10K. To get the endorsement a driver must do a written test plus a drivers test.
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Lenny and Ros
2012 Montana 3400RL,680 Watts Solar,4xT-105 Trojans,GP-ISW2000-12 Inverter,Trimetric 2020, EMSHW50C
2009 Chevy Silverado 3500 LTZ Duramax 4x4 CC Dually, Banks Speed Brake
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11-10-2017, 09:18 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Tacoma
Posts: 1,567
M.O.C. #20475
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Not required in washington St.
Bob & Carol
Washington St
2017 352RL 2008 Dodge 3500 DRW crew cab 4x4 6.7L
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11-10-2017, 10:35 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: R
Posts: 261
M.O.C. #17922
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In Saskatchewan, we require an endorsement "G" on our drivers license if the trailer weighs more than 10,000 lbs and is not for commercial use. To get the endorsement a driver must do a written and a drivers test.
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11-11-2017, 03:24 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Okeechobee
Posts: 2,150
M.O.C. #11206
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Hi
I hold Commercial classes A ever sense they were required.
I haven’t ever checked about needing one however a few years back the state of Florida started requiring the commercial drivers to register their medical every 2 years. I register as a class A driver that didn’t require a medical and haven’t heard anything more.
Phil P
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2009 Duramax 3500 DRW quad cab
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11-11-2017, 10:17 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Vancouver Island
Posts: 894
M.O.C. #14417
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Didn't realize Saskatchewan had the same requirements as British Columbia. I'm sure there are a lot of drivers in both provinces don't have the endorsement as would be the same case in the states that require it.
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Lenny and Ros
2012 Montana 3400RL,680 Watts Solar,4xT-105 Trojans,GP-ISW2000-12 Inverter,Trimetric 2020, EMSHW50C
2009 Chevy Silverado 3500 LTZ Duramax 4x4 CC Dually, Banks Speed Brake
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11-11-2017, 10:31 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Sioux Falls
Posts: 505
M.O.C. #14162
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Appears my regular license will get me through for where I want to go. Great info with the Federal guidelines.
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2018 Montana 3790RD
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11-11-2017, 04:25 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: R
Posts: 261
M.O.C. #17922
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lenny K
Didn't realize Saskatchewan had the same requirements as British Columbia. I'm sure there are a lot of drivers in both provinces don't have the endorsement as would be the same case in the states that require it.
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This is quoted from the SGI (Saskatchewan Government Insurance) website:
Heavy trailer - exceeding 4,600 kg
You may need a Heavy Trailer G Endorsement added to your drivers licence to pull a heavy trailer. If the combined weight of the trailer and its contents exceed 4,600 kg (10,000 lbs), it qualifies as a Class 1 unit.
You can obtain the G Endorsement on your Class 2, 3, 4, or 5 licence, which allows you to drive 2-axle trucks (excluding power units) towing trailers more than 4,600 kg. Drivers must be 18 and not be a Novice driver.
To obtain the G Endorsement on your driver's licence, you must meet the approved medical and vision standards, and pass the written and road test.
Also:
If the combined weight of your truck, trailers and load is greater than 5,000 kg, it must be indicated on the registration of the towing unit. Remember to include the weight of towing vehicle, trailers you are pulling and the contents when calculating this.
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11-11-2017, 05:31 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: 1000 oaks
Posts: 978
M.O.C. #19630
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jmell44
In California any trailer or 5th wheel that has a GVWR of 15,000 lbs or more requires a commercial or non-commercial class A license.
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Ahhhhh Kalifornia, wait there's more.....
RECREATIONAL TRAILER ENDORSEMENT
A driver must have a fth-wheel recreational trailer endorsement added to his/her Class C driver license to pull a fth-wheel recreational trailer over 10,000 lbs., but not over 15,000 lbs. GVWR, which is not used for hire. This endorsement is not required if the driver has a commercial or noncommercial Class A driver license.
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11-11-2017, 10:49 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Rancho Santa Margarita
Posts: 633
M.O.C. #13025
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Something to consider. If you are required to have a commercial license go ahead and get one. If it is not required you may not want to get one. If you have a CDL and you have an alcoholic beverage with a meal your percentage for legal limit is 0.04% and non CDL is 0.08%. I almost never drink alcohol but will occasionally have a glass of wine with a meal. If I did get pulled over for some reason I didn't want to be over the limit.
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11-14-2017, 10:18 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Somewhere
Posts: 214
M.O.C. #7994
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I too in B.C.,needed an endorsement when I got my rig, 2007. Did not need 'A' class.
Mine is suitable for our trailers w/o airbrakes.
Entailed a written exam and a driving test. Not hard.
I had it explained to me this way. Police will not likely check you for the proper endorsement. Too much to do. UNLESS you do something stupid or somehow you are brought to their attention such as a collision or speeding.
Find out what your jurisdiction requires or you could get a nasty surprise especially if the problem occurs in some other jurisdiction.
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11-14-2017, 10:23 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Somewhere
Posts: 214
M.O.C. #7994
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I too in B.C.,needed an endorsement when I got my rig, 2007. Did not need 'A' class.
Entailed a written exam and a driving test. Not hard.
I had it explained to me this way. Police will not likely check you for the proper endorsement. Too much to do. UNLESS you do something stupid or somehow you are brought to their attention such as a collision or speeding.
Find out what your jurisdiction requires or you could get a nasty surprise especially if the problem occurs in some other jurisdiction.
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11-15-2017, 12:07 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Ligonier
Posts: 80
M.O.C. #20630
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Thanks to all.
Got my Class permit and have a year to do the driving test. Written test done.
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