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01-31-2022, 10:44 AM
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Established Member
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Location: Great river
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M.O.C. #30340
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New tires for 2013 3100 rl
Hi all ,
We’re looking to replace the tires on our recently purchased 2013 3100 rl.
235/8016e .
The tire have less than 1000 miles on them but are completely dry rotted
I was thinking to go to a g rated tire I’m not sure that it’s necessary but I’m certainly contemplating it .
We plan on doing some long road trips at some point .
I called the local barnwell shop and they recommend an all steel 14 ply
Good ride tire .
$225. + 45 mounting and balance (much more then I expected )
If anyone has any experience with good ride tires or can recommend quality tires I’m all ears
Thanks in advance
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01-31-2022, 11:36 AM
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Montana Master
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I put a set of TransEagle all steel G rated on my rig 2 years ago. So far so good. They were much less than Sailun yet have a higher speed rating, I'd be cautious about Sailun made in Vietnam.
My rig originally came with load range E. I upgraded to load range F. One set wore out prematurely due to bad alignment. Second set developed bubbles on the sidewalls within 2 years (I think this was caused by exceeding 65 mph speed limit when I was passing a slower vehicle). Luckily I caught it before they exploded. Decided all steel load range G was the way to go. Better to have excess capacity and higher speed rating.
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01-31-2022, 11:50 AM
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Established Member
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Thanks for the info !
Bty how’s Your f250 tv holding up ?
My tv will be a 2019 f250 .
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02-02-2022, 07:58 AM
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Montana Fan
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Location: Roseville
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hblick48
I put a set of TransEagle all steel G rated on my rig 2 years ago. So far so good. They were much less than Sailun yet have a higher speed rating, I'd be cautious about Sailun made in Vietnam.
My rig originally came with load range E. I upgraded to load range F. One set wore out prematurely due to bad alignment. Second set developed bubbles on the sidewalls within 2 years (I think this was caused by exceeding 65 mph speed limit when I was passing a slower vehicle). Luckily I caught it before they exploded. Decided all steel load range G was the way to go. Better to have excess capacity and higher speed rating.
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The Vietnam Sailun issue has been resolved and there is a recall to replace all affect tires. Don't be afraid to go with Sailins. My recall was just completed on Monday.
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Jim and Carole
Roseville, MN
2018 RAM 3500 DRW, Diesel, Long Box, Air Lift Bags - 2020 Montana HC 381TH, Sailun S637
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02-02-2022, 08:03 AM
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Seasoned Camper
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Were the recall replacements made in Vietnam or China?
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02-02-2022, 09:25 AM
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Montana Fan
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M.O.C. #25257
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mbjam359
Were the recall replacements made in Vietnam or China?
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They are from Vietnam. I called the analyst at TBC I am working with and they said the issues are all resolved and that Sailun is producing certain sizes in Vietnam and others in China. With the track record of Sailun, I am confident the replacements are good.
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Roseville, MN
2018 RAM 3500 DRW, Diesel, Long Box, Air Lift Bags - 2020 Montana HC 381TH, Sailun S637
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02-20-2022, 12:30 PM
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Location: Farmington
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hblick48
I put a set of TransEagle all steel G rated on my rig 2 years ago. So far so good. They were much less than Sailun yet have a higher speed rating, I'd be cautious about Sailun made in Vietnam.
My rig originally came with load range E. I upgraded to load range F. One set wore out prematurely due to bad alignment. Second set developed bubbles on the sidewalls within 2 years (I think this was caused by exceeding 65 mph speed limit when I was passing a slower vehicle). Luckily I caught it before they exploded. Decided all steel load range G was the way to go. Better to have excess capacity and higher speed rating.
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Looking at Transeagle ST Radial All Steel Heavy Duty Premium Trailer Radial Tires-ST235/80R16 to replace my existing tires…. From 10 ply to 14…. awaiting responses from others with experience
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02-20-2022, 12:37 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2018
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Quote:
Originally Posted by d1999aads
Looking at Transeagle ST Radial All Steel Heavy Duty Premium Trailer Radial Tires-ST235/80R16 to replace my existing tires…. From 10 ply to 14…. awaiting responses from others with experience
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I'm very happy with mine. They're twice as heavy as LR F. Make sure that your rims can handle 110 PSI, I replaced my aluminum wheels with generic white steel ones. Also need steel valve stems.
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02-20-2022, 12:43 PM
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110 psi for the Transeagle? They are the same size as the Rainer tires that are 80 psi... If that is the case I will look on the rim to see if they can do 110,,, and replace the steel value stems correct?
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02-20-2022, 02:42 PM
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Site Team
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Quote:
Originally Posted by d1999aads
110 psi for the Transeagle? They are the same size as the Rainer tires that are 80 psi... If that is the case I will look on the rim to see if they can do 110,,, and replace the steel value stems correct?
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Dave,
You will be good with 110 PSI tires on a 2017 model.
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2018 3160RL
"Life is too short to stay indoors, enjoy the ride!"
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01-31-2022, 11:59 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2006
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I am pretty sure your older rig doesn't have rims capable of 100psi tires. Probably 80. So unless you get new rims, you will be stuck with E tires, I think. And I think your rig fully loaded would probably have around 13000 lb on the axles - hence 3200 lb per tire. I run Michelin LTX (I think) which are rated at 3042lb. Not enough for you.
I may be wrong on your wheels but something to check.
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2013 Mountaineer 362
2012 Silverado 2500
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01-31-2022, 03:05 PM
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Site Team
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Quote:
Originally Posted by twindman
I am pretty sure your older rig doesn't have rims capable of 100psi tires. Probably 80. So unless you get new rims, you will be stuck with E tires, I think. And I think your rig fully loaded would probably have around 13000 lb on the axles - hence 3200 lb per tire. I run Michelin LTX (I think) which are rated at 3042lb. Not enough for you.
I may be wrong on your wheels but something to check.
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A 2013 has 110 P.S.I. rims so a G rated tire will work. work. Despite the short term problem with their Vietnam manufactured tires, Sailun stepped up and took care of the buyers. I wouldn't hesitate to buy Sailuns again. In fact I am getting one next week (not because the tire failed)
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There is more to life than fuel mileage.
2012 Montana 3700RL Big Sky Package towed by a 2015 Ford F350 6.7L PSD 4WD CC LWB
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01-31-2022, 12:11 PM
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Montana Master
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Forgot to mention that I also purchased new steel wheels to handle increased air pressure. Original alloy wheels has 85 PSI max.
F250 6.0 has 160,000 miles on it. Runs great. Had bullet proofed at 140,000. Much cheaper than buying newer used vehicle.
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01-31-2022, 12:32 PM
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Montana Master
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Also, think your truck may not have the payload capacity for this rig. I think GVWR is 16000 lb. Probably a minimum of 3000 lb pin weight - most likely more. Back in 05, I think payloads were around 3000 to maybe 4000 lb. Add in 2 bodies, full fuel tank and other sundries plus a hitch, and you are adding 450 lb at least. So possibly payload down to 2500 lb.
Check this out also. I had a 2004 chevy and had to add airbags because of the squat when hitched up - about 3 inches. I have been right at the limit (actually 2-400 lb over on gross weight, but both axles are ok. Only diff on a chevy 2500 vs 3500 is an extra leaf spring, so I feel safe. Do your research.
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01-31-2022, 03:24 PM
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M.O.C. #30340
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Thanks ,
My rigs dry weight is 11310 gvwr is 14200 lbs . The pin weight is 2235 I’m sure that’s based on dry weight .
I’m thinking the actual pin would be more in the 2850 range based on the gvwr.
I know we need to be careful not to overload because we are dam close to max . It is what it is at this point all we can do besides get a bigger truck is make it as robust as we can
My f250 payload is 3030 . I’m going to upgrade my tv tires and rims to load range f
I believe the tires limits the actual payload by a few hundred lbs .I’m also going to add timbrens or airbags I haven’t decide yet .
Mostly we are Aware.
Thanks for the advice especially with having to upgrade the rims of the 3100rl
Thanks again
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02-01-2022, 10:37 PM
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Montana Master
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My bad! I looked at 2015 specs and assumed they would be the same, but the 15 has a GVWR of 16000 lb. Your numbers listed are correct! You may be ok but as you stated - close.
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02-20-2022, 01:37 PM
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Montana Master
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All load range G (14 ply) are made to run at 110 psi. There is a chart that relates tire pressure to load range. You can run lower pressure for reduced load, but the tire can self destruct if pressure is too low.
I run mine at 100 psi. Rig came from factory with load range E, so I have plenty of load capacity.
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02-21-2022, 02:10 PM
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Site Team
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there will be something embossed on the inside of a wheel spoke. Either 110 P.S.I. or a weight value.
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There is more to life than fuel mileage.
2012 Montana 3700RL Big Sky Package towed by a 2015 Ford F350 6.7L PSD 4WD CC LWB
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02-22-2022, 09:59 AM
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Montana Master
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With just over 11,000lbs, estimated, on four tires, most E-rated ST tires at 80psi max should be fine. You could go to G-rated and use less psi per the load table.
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