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03-27-2017, 06:52 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Arlington
Posts: 15
M.O.C. #19242
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Double paane windows?
Hello out there! DW and I are seriously considering a Montana for full timing. I want one with the 4 seasons winter package. But I see that dual pane windows are not included and must be special ordered. I would think that without dual panes, condensation on the inside would be a major problem, since moisture is the last thing you want in your RV.
So, those of you in cold areas without the double panes, how is that working for you ?
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03-27-2017, 07:36 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: West Richland
Posts: 1,253
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I myself think they offer an advantage in heating, cooling and a bit quieter. Others will tell you that there is no bennifits to them because the air gap is not as big as those in a stick built home. It is as contentious as the SRW verse DRW thread. Everyone has an opinion and I am sure you will get a lot of them. Interesting fact is that some have never had the dual pane windows.
If you want them order them, that is what I did, same as getting a built in genset. Some people will argue that you need one while others will say they are happy with their genset. And now I will get off my soap box. ;-)
Tom Marty
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03-27-2017, 08:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dam Worker
I myself think they offer an advantage in heating, cooling and a bit quieter. Others will tell you that there is no bennifits to them because the air gap is not as big as those in a stick built home. It is as contentious as the SRW verse DRW thread. Everyone has an opinion and I am sure you will get a lot of them. Interesting fact is that some have never had the dual pane windows.
If you want them order them, that is what I did, same as getting a built in genset. Some people will argue that you need one while others will say they are happy with their genset. And now I will get off my soap box. ;-)
Tom Marty
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Well, I'm with you, Tom. The genset is the other thing we'll order with the double pane windows!
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03-27-2017, 08:46 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Haysville
Posts: 4,261
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Last two fivers have had dual pane glass. Granted it isn't the same as dual pane windows on a stick house, but it makes the way the fiver takes hot and cold infinitely better. As an added benefit ... it cuts down on campground noise a bunch. I don't know the weight difference, but it wasn't something I was worried about on either of my last two fivers. You'll get some saying there is no noticeable difference ... denial is a peculiar thing ... Ha!
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03-28-2017, 06:40 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Kville
Posts: 2,865
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We had dual paned windows in a previous motor home. They were good as far as insulation and noise reduction. However, after a few years some were compromised and got foggy between the pieces of glass.
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03-28-2017, 07:12 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Moab
Posts: 316
M.O.C. #6756
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still fulltimin in our 07 3400RL with dual pane and genset............would not be without either!! Has been a great rig!!
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03-28-2017, 09:28 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Davison
Posts: 786
M.O.C. #12331
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We've owned both with and without dual pane windows. We will never be without them again. My wife uses the kitchen a ton in the fall (cooler weather), the dual pane windows have cut down immensely on the condensation and they do cut down on noise intrusion. I notice less "cold spots" when sitting next to them as well.
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03-28-2017, 09:30 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Auburn
Posts: 879
M.O.C. #18474
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TLightning
We had dual paned windows in a previous motor home. They were good as far as insulation and noise reduction. However, after a few years some were compromised and got foggy between the pieces of glass.
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This is the reason I didn't order them. Our rig has everything but those. The dealers in the area talked me out of them as they are very expensive to replace after a few years. Now, granted not ALL will fog up, but a majority around here have. Maybe just our heat..who knows.
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03-28-2017, 10:41 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Victor
Posts: 940
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We have had both in our Montanas. Would not be without again. We live in the cold and have lived in South Fla. We did have our big picture window go foggy. We took it to Hudson Fla and they fixed it. Cost right at 300.00. They have a place to stay with hookups. They pull the window and it may take 3-4 days up to a week. The lot is full of RVs If you can afford them I say get them.
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03-28-2017, 11:46 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Brandon
Posts: 3,944
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bethandkevin
We've owned both with and without dual pane windows. We will never be without them again. My wife uses the kitchen a ton in the fall (cooler weather), the dual pane windows have cut down immensely on the condensation and they do cut down on noise intrusion. I notice less "cold spots" when sitting next to them as well.
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X2 Absolutely!
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03-31-2017, 06:59 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Frostproof, FL USA
Posts: 2,362
M.O.C. #13272
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I sold and installed a ton of replacement residential windows after retiring from my first career. A good sealed insulated window you may find in a residence should not be compared to what the RV industry is calling a dual pane insulated window. In the RV world it is simply two pieces of glass, which do not contain sealed argon gas or other UV protecting gasses in between.
I'm not saying having dual pane windows in your RV won't help on very cold days or in extreme heat, just be realistic about your expectations. If you think that sitting in Arizona summer sun you will be able to keep the inside of your RV below 80 degrees because of those windows then you will be disappointed, or you have never been to Arizona in the summer.
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03-31-2017, 07:34 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Livermore
Posts: 5,183
M.O.C. #1920
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We have had three Montana's now, and this is our first with dual pane windows. We think they keep the coach much quieter, and maybe just a little warmer. As with most things RV, everyone's situation is different - lifestyle, finances, usage, et. If I was fulltiming, I think I would go Solar first, possibly with lithium ion batteries for weight. Since we boondock a lot, I have two Honda's. I can take them out and use them on the stick built with the transfer switch in case we have an outage. Not a concern for a fulltimer. Best of luck.
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03-31-2017, 09:23 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
Posts: 20,229
M.O.C. #2839
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We examined the manufacturers specs on heat transfer and noise reduction.. We do not have them.
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03-31-2017, 10:06 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Leavenworth
Posts: 270
M.O.C. #17706
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Spent time in Colorado the last two winters down to around 0 degrees and they keep the Montana significantly warmer without the cold spots. We can sit next to the window at freezing temperatures and it is very comfortable. no condensation either. Also, they reduce noise from outside and help with cooling in summer temperatures. It was a "must have" for us when we purchased our Montana due to our frequent cold weather travels; no regrets.
Had SOB with single pane windows a few years ago and risked frostbite getting to close to the windows in winter.
We did have a dealer at an RV Show tell us he ordered and sold nothing but dual pane window Montanas; ... then the next year at same RV Show said he had no dual pane window units and they weren't needed. Upon further investigation, it seems what ever unit he had in stock was the best to buy! His profit margin was better on the single pane windows!!!
Happy shopping.
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