[twindman]

If I remember correctly, my rig weighs around 13000 lb. maybe 13.5. My truck is right at 8000 with full tank (36 gal.), my pullrite hitch and a toolbox, and 2 adults. My pin weight is 2400-2500, which puts me over by 500 lb - but the axles (tires) are right at their limit, but not over.

I made a mistake when I purchased the truck (2012 Silverado 2500). I thought the 3500 would be a lot more money. At that time, the 3500 had 1000 or 1500 lb more load capacity. Which would have made me happy with 500 lb above my pin weight to spare. Oh, it turns out at that time the upgrade would have only cost about $1500. don't know about it now.