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meg38
02-25-2020, 08:24 PM
So going to the Keys in June. Upgraded to a 5er last fall. This is my first fifth wheel so the height can be a bit intimidating. I did get an RV GPS to help with trips. I also use the Rvparky app which is great for showing lots of info that's RV related. We will be taking I81,77,26, to 95. So this may be a dumb question but its one of the things that makes me nervous for the trip. What do you all do as far as knowing you'll fit in a fuel stop? My truck is a gasser not diesel. So the trucker pumps are out. Camper is 35ft long & 13'4 height. In a perfect world I would pull into a place with lots of room to pull up to the pumps & a tall canopy. So to the experienced owners of a gasser truck & 5er please feel free to give me any advise or tips. I'm sure I'm overthinking it. Just have this fear of pulling in & getting stuck while low on fuel. Grateful for any help!!:bow::bow:

Hblick48
02-25-2020, 08:31 PM
I've used Google Earth to make sure I can get in and out.

Route66Rambler
02-25-2020, 08:57 PM
A lot of Pilot/Flying J stations of RV specific fuel islands that have gas and diesel. Usually they have no canopy overhead and plenty of room to get in and out. Check out the Pilot/Flying J app or use RV Trip Wizard. They show which have the RV islands.

mazboy
02-26-2020, 06:20 AM
You'll have to do what happens to us at times. Look ahead as you come up to an exit to see what the gas station has for you.

As for the keys, there are plenty of gas stations for you--with the trailer.

If that worried just carry an extra 5 gallons of fuel. MAKE SURE when going towards Miami that you are full...suddenly you are in traffic and no gas station that you can go into.

Daryles
02-26-2020, 07:30 AM
Google maps satellite view to see if we can fit, turn around. Carry a gas can. You can always disconnect in a nearby parking lot.

BB_TX
02-26-2020, 09:15 AM
Most newer stations have covers high enough to be no problem. The problem tends more to be getting into and out of the front pump lanes. I have a diesel but rarely use the truck stops. Just don't like them. So I use the regular station front pumps.

I am very much a planner. I typically plan ahead before leaving, estimate where I will need to fuel up, and use google maps satellite view to locate and view stations in that area, and google maps street view to see them from ground level. With those two tools, I can see how entrances/exits look and how high the covers are. Hasn't failed me yet. Saves me having to start searching while driving along and wondering what I am going to find. With a 35 gallon tank I never have to stop more than once on any given day. I start with a full tank, and fill up before hitting the road again after a stay somewhere.

Kyle and Lisa
02-26-2020, 09:19 AM
We always top off our tank the day before we move to another location, although we only travel 2-5 hours at a time.

DaveK
03-04-2020, 02:41 PM
Gas stations are a real problem, especially for gas vehicles, and yes at RV pumps without exit space. I've had to have my wife stop traffic so I can back out onto main highways. It's one of the stressful parts of towing. Out West, it's even more difficult. Having to do Google earth to buy gas indicates that gas stations are not aware of this. After a recent trip I wrote to Pilot/Flying j and they personally called me to say theydidn'trealizethis and would look into the problem. Please write corporate in Tennessee. More voices the better.

Many times, I didn't have reasonable options

davemitchell59
03-04-2020, 02:49 PM
I agree with a previous post that most newer stations have canopies above 14', so that isn't typically a worry. It's the navigation in/out that can get tricky.

I've used the satellite view on Google Maps at times. We've found that most truck stops have pretty good space at their pumps on the car side too. When fueling at a car island, I try to minimize my navigation needs. That usually ends up being the first pump. But, I've also had to back out of one location after fueling when I discovered I didn't have turning options that I was comfortable with.

We've even done a drive-by before and said, "Nope. Not trying that one."

We typically start looking for fuel options up ahead when we drop below 1/2 a tank. At that point we know we have 80-100 miles to 1/4 tank, which is when DW starts getting nervous. It allows us to be more flexible with our fueling options.

We use to always get diesel on the car islands at smaller stations because I wasn't going to pay the truck stop inflated prices. But we don't worry about that any more since we secured a TSD fuel card for RVers that gets us significant discounts at the major truck stops. Now we join the truckers, so no more issues with clearance or navigation.

Peter1965
03-04-2020, 02:56 PM
I would agree. I remember the days when I was using a gas truck. The overwhelming majority of the gas side of truck stops had enough height to get you into. Maneuvering was always the trick. I would just pull in and position myself for the outside pumps. There were some stressful times blocking traffic with our 5ver which is 42 1/2 feet.

Gone diesel now and those days are behind us.:thumbsup:

oddjobal
03-04-2020, 03:10 PM
I always go and top off before I hook up. I am like others. I never go more than 5 hours. I also have a aux tank in my bed with 10 gal on board. I have had some close calls in TEXAS

Rdt1012@att.net
03-04-2020, 03:34 PM
Extra expense. I use a RDS gravity feed auxiliary fuel tank.
Paying (cost of tank) for peace of mind.

Live the Keys.

DaveK
03-04-2020, 03:43 PM
Is the tank for diesel or gas?

Every time were travel, I end up gassing up during the trip, even when I leave with a full tank.

owendell
03-04-2020, 04:05 PM
I've researched and kept notes on the gas stations that worked for us (and marked ones that might in the future) on



www.rvislands.com

Rdt1012@att.net
03-04-2020, 04:38 PM
RDS auxiliary tanks can be used with either gasoline or diesel (with kit)

StageCoachDriver
03-04-2020, 04:46 PM
I also pull with a gasser and I prefer truck stops. Flying J, TA, Loves, etc all have taller gas islands than most gas stations.

rafael33155
03-04-2020, 05:02 PM
I live in Miami has gone lots of times camping in the keys what I do is fill up before going into the keys you’ll have enough gas to make it all the way you’re going unhitch at camp site and go fill up your truck for your trip back

darbutis
03-04-2020, 05:19 PM
I have recently purchased the 2020 edition of the book "The Next Exit." If you are on an interstate, it tells you what is at each exit. Not only does it tell you available gas stations, but which are RV friendly. I haven't tested it yet.

Jeff W
03-04-2020, 05:53 PM
Ditto the Pilot/ Flying J comment. Many have an RV lane. Also, you can just park off to the side, drop the trailer, fill-up and then hook back-up. I have had to do that twice, but honestly I didnít mind, because at the end of a tank, I am getting antsy and need to stretch the legs for a while.

I also pre-plan my fuel stops if I will need one before we arrive in the evening. I often limit myself to 250-300 miles which I can just get with my truck. So if I am going further, I use RVLife, Pilot App and Google Maps to plan my fuel stop.

laverdur
03-04-2020, 06:37 PM
When in doubt, I have DW get out and watch. Some canopies are marked for height but I always wonder if that measurement includes the lights and cameras that hang below the canopy. Better safe than sorry.

mtlakejim
03-04-2020, 09:52 PM
Some of the GPS units designed for RVs and or Truckers have next exit capability. It is a very handy feature. I for one will only stop at a truck stop. I absolutely hate driving around an unfamiliar town risking getting in a bind with a big rig. Truck stops are DESIGNED for big rigs use them and nothing else if your diesel. Even if your a gasser like the OP nearly every major brand truck stop (flying J, Pilot, Loves) have good sized car/gas fueling areas with tall canopies and a reasonable amount of room to get turned around. Why risk fueling anywhere else even if its cheaper? What your going to risk thousands in damage to save 2 bucks???? Seriously?????

mtlakejim
03-04-2020, 10:56 PM
May I suggest that everyone do what I just did and go to the Pilot/Flying J website and lodge a complaint. FYI your limited to 300 characters in the text box but it doesn't tell you that up front!


You have to think that EFS/TSD is a far larger contract than Good Sam will ever be. I can't imagine that Pilot will want to miff off a trucking company for the few pennies they get from the Good Sams program.......

Stevengeri
03-05-2020, 03:20 AM
Another great app is trucker path. It gives you locations and info on stops. Including fuel, rest areas, etc. I drive a semi long haul and have a 5er. Good tool for both applications

dmellich
03-05-2020, 06:52 AM
I would not advise taking 95 through Miami. You will want to cut over to the Florida Turnpike from 95 as you get closer to "South Florida" i.e. at Ft. Pierce or even further south in North Broward County at SW 10 St. That will solve your fuel issue at that point since you can use the service plaza's.

Obviously there will be tolls so you want to also consider getting a Sun Pass, Florida's version of the prepaid tolls. They're available in service plaza's and not real expensive - $20 I think.

Where are you staying in the Keys?

Safe travels.

bshgto
03-05-2020, 07:22 AM
Google maps satellite view to see if we can fit, turn around. Carry a gas can. You can always disconnect in a nearby parking lot.

This is best if you are concerned about getting in and out. Takes all the stress out of fueling if your super low. Early on I disconnected on the side of the road once to fuel. Now I have a inbed fuel tank. I can`t drive enough to empty both tanks before I stop for the night then we go out and eat and fuel locally.

DutchmenSport
03-05-2020, 07:52 AM
I'm also a member of that club that doesn't care for truck stops. I use regular auto gas stations, although my truck is diesel. The challenge with diesel pumps, is finding them. Very few gas stations have the diesel pumps marked boldly enough you can actually see where they are located before pulling into the lot.

Still, I'd rather do this than put up with all the nasties at truck stops. Besides, in Indiana there are 2 different fuel prices, and they are always confusing, especially at truck stops. There is "Auto" price for the civilian drivers, which includes taxes. And then there is "Exempt" prices for commercial carriers. When pulling up to the commercial truck pumps, you never know which is right, since I'm not a commercial carrier. Very confusing. That's why I prefer the pumps at the "normal-regular" gas stations. Not to mention, I've not seen very many truck-stop big rig pump bays that are actually clean. The one exception is the I-80 Truck Stop in Iowa. Now that one is fantastic. It's the only exception I've seen.

But, maybe my mind set is different. I kind of like challenges, and I find it interesting to attempt to conquer awkward parking situations with my 41 foot 5er. So, navigating the truck and 5er to the pump and then navigating out of the fuel station add to the overall camping experience. Plus it forces me to sharpen my driving skills.

About overhead clearances? I've never had a problem with that. The fuel stations that have lower canopies? Well, almost always, they have very difficultly laid out pump lanes that are almost impossible to navigate with even a Volkswagon Bug. And, I've learned to avoid fueling in metropolitan areas. This also eliminates the really tight or impossible to navigate fuel stations. When towing, I try to fuel up in less populated or congested areas.

Also, we use the GasBuddy app, which is great for locating stations that sell diesel, and then comparing with Google Map (satellite view), helps a lot in determine if I even want to try the next station up the road. That's what my wife does when I'm driving. She's comparing GasBuddy with Google Maps for easier access to the pumps, because sometimes....they really are impossible to navigate with a 41 foot 5er!

Slow Hand
03-05-2020, 07:57 AM
I have a 34'er and I don't go to truck stops for fuel. I get fuel at gas stations all the time. I have a diesel and never a problem. truck stops are expensive and busy all the time. I don't use google maps. I plan my trip in advance as to where to stay. I look at all the campgrounds that I want to stay at.. Write the name phone and address in a binder with dates of stay. You can't always plan fuel stops. If you use fuel buddy you can try to get fuel at a dissent price. Just be careful. Sometimes Gas Buddy had me going off the path I was on towing and you really have to watch bridges and stuff like that. If you are unhooked than Gas Buddy is the bomb. I don't use any special GPS just the one in the truck. I have had no issues in 35,000 miles towing across the USA. I have been to a lot of places in 4 years.

richfaa
03-05-2020, 09:14 AM
We use truck stops when on the road. We prefer FJ/Pilot they are easy in, easy out and most of them are RV friendly some of the older pilots do not have RV pumps and you still have to use the truck pumps which is not a big deal IF you know how to use them. FJ/Pilot has a RV plus card that give a fair discount. They have plenty of parking for a rest stop and restaurant's if you choose. We will not drive 55 feet of Truck and RV a few miles up a secondary road or jam ourselves into a small fuel station to save a few cents. We have traveled over 15K miles since 2006 nad have no problem with truck stops.....just our choice.

wade
03-05-2020, 10:48 AM
Spend the extra $$ and get a in bed fuel tank or the toolbox / fuel tank combo. Can be set up so just a flip of a switch on you dash and your fueling up your factory tank. Good for another 2-300 miles

lightsout
03-05-2020, 11:14 AM
HAd a ford f350 that I traded in in Jan for a new Ram 3500, the Ford had a 40 Gal Aux Diesel tank, after having that spare fuel tank there was no way in hell I was not going to install one in my Ram.

As I looked for tank I wanted to stay under 50 Gal and also have a tank that sat below the bed rails as I have a Tonneau cover. Problem was 90% of the tanks out there sat above the bed rails.

I ended up buying a 46Gal Aluminum Tank from Tank and Barrel, the height was just below the bed rails and only used 12" of the bed. I went 46 Gal vs smaller as all 46 is not usable so I have a usable qty of about 41-42, and that applies to most tanks.

This tank made by Aluminum Tank Industries in Florida comes with everything you need (also included the Fuel Gauge) to DIY install. It only takes 2-3 hours to install and looks great in the bed. Now combined with the stock 32gal (which holds more like 36-gal) and the new usable 42gal I am pushing 80 gallons with a towable range of 750 miles before desperate for fuel. With that you can easily pick you stops.

This was the best truck addition I made and it is cheap (about $700 delivered) and easy.

Note: there are two types of fuel delivery, Gravity feed and electric pump, my ford was electric and the Ram gravity and frankly there is NO advantage to electric, in fact simply more to go wrong with electric, like forget the pump is on, pump failure, whereas gravity feed is easy and pretty much fail proof.

https://www.tankandbarrel.com/rectangle-diesel-tanks-ati-aux46rik-ati-46-gallon-rectangle-diesel-auxiliary-fuel-tank-p-1223.html

https://www.tankandbarrel.com/images/ati/AUX46RIK.jpg

I will never drive more than 750 miles in a day and will mostly fuel after unhooked, however even if needing fuel between stops I can carefully select best options.

An Aux tank also end rang anxiety, we also have a Tesla and supercharges are generally 80 miles a part, we have a range of about 265 miles, this creates a fair amount of anxiety and planning for recharging, this is probably the ONLY downside to electric. However Tesla has done a great job of supercharger locations but there is still some anxiety when you get down below 30%. The Aux tank eliminates all Fuel anxiety makes traveling so much more relaxed especially if you are covering some serious miles

DebNJim B
03-05-2020, 11:59 AM
I also have an aux tank. Mine is lower profile and fits nicely between the cab and 5er hitch. It's low enough that I can stack our camp chairs on top and still clear for the toneau cover. Total capacity now is about 60 gal or roughly 600-700 miles. Since we generally go 250-300 miles per day it works great. If we unhook for the night I search around with gas bubby for fuel. Usually cheaper when you get a few miles from the Interstates. If for some reason I don't want to unhook I still have enough for the next leg of the trip. With my back and sciatica I can't do more than 5-6 hours driving. Besides I'm retired and in no hurry. We also use IExit on the phone, Google maps and Waze along with the Next Exit book.

Fish
03-12-2020, 11:43 AM
RDS auxiliary tanks can be used with either gasoline or diesel (with kit)

The gravity feed kits that you buy to gravity feed the rds tanks are called diesel
install kits and say not to be used with gasoline.

At least that's what I saw when I deliberated on them for months. I ended up buying an rds tank with a pump in the toolbox because I didn't like the idea of having bottom flow and a valve in the bottom of the bed to be knocked off.

I run diesel btw.

lightsout
03-12-2020, 11:55 AM
The gravity feed kits that you buy to gravity feed the rds tanks are called diesel
install kits and say not to be used with gasoline.

At least that's what I saw when I deliberated on them for months. I ended up buying an rds tank with a pump in the toolbox because I didn't like the idea of having bottom flow and a valve in the bottom of the bed to be knocked off.

I run diesel btw.

You realize that even pumped systems draw from the bottom of the tank... Plus you can put an in line filter on both gravity and pump feed. The valve for gravity feed is on the ends of the tank, they are not in harms way at all.

I had a pump feed on the 2011 F350 I traded for the new Ram 3500 which I installed gravity feed. I chose Gravity this time as the pump feed you have to be careful to make sure you do not accidently pump when your main is full. Frankly I did not see the benefit of pump feed for near triple the cost. That is not to say Pump is bad it is just personal preference.

By the way Gravity feed the outlet is about 1" above the bottom of the tank so if you have more sediment/bacteria/sludge than that you have a much bigger problem.

Fish
03-12-2020, 01:04 PM
You realize that even pumped systems draw from the bottom of the tank... Plus you can put an in line filter on both gravity and pump feed. The valve for gravity feed is on the ends of the tank, they are not in harms way at all.

I had a pump feed on the 2011 F350 I traded for the new Ram 3500 which I installed gravity feed. I chose Gravity this time as the pump feed you have to be careful to make sure you do not accidently pump when your main is full. Frankly I did not see the benefit of pump feed for near triple the cost. That is not to say Pump is bad it is just personal preference.

By the way Gravity feed the outlet is about 1" above the bottom of the tank so if you have more sediment/bacteria/sludge than that you have a much bigger problem.

I should have explained it better. I have a pump and an actual fuel nozzle like at a station that I pull out of my tool box and then fill up my main tank, the tank isn't plumbed into the truck in any way. I just feel that it's safer in the case someone t bones me.
I don't have to worry about a fitting at the bottom of the tank getting knocked off and spewing fuel everywhere.

lightsout
03-12-2020, 01:20 PM
I should have explained it better. I have a pump and an actual fuel nozzle like at a station that I pull out of my tool box and then fill up my main tank, the tank isn't plumbed into the truck in any way. I just feel that it's safer in the case someone t bones me.
I don't have to worry about a fitting at the bottom of the tank getting knocked off and spewing fuel everywhere.

Yes that is very different

Fish
03-12-2020, 01:22 PM
This is what I have

https://www.tankandbarrel.com/refueling-tank-toolbox-combo-with-pump-rds-73326-rds-60-gallon-refueling-tank-toolbox-combo-with-pump-p-2441.html

Creeker
03-12-2020, 01:28 PM
I've typed this here before but If I were not able to replace our
gravity feed aux tank, I wouldn't take $5k for it.
Its already been in two trucks and will go in the next one as well.

So much less stressful being able to pick and choose where
and when we refill. Not to mention the money we have saved by fueling
away from truck stops over the last 10 years we've owned it.

Baldicon
03-12-2020, 07:25 PM
HAd a ford f350 that I traded in in Jan for a new Ram 3500, the Ford had a 40 Gal Aux Diesel tank, after having that spare fuel tank there was no way in hell I was not going to install one in my Ram.

As I looked for tank I wanted to stay under 50 Gal and also have a tank that sat below the bed rails as I have a Tonneau cover. Problem was 90% of the tanks out there sat above the bed rails.

I ended up buying a 46Gal Aluminum Tank from Tank and Barrel, the height was just below the bed rails and only used 12" of the bed. I went 46 Gal vs smaller as all 46 is not usable so I have a usable qty of about 41-42, and that applies to most tanks.

This tank made by Aluminum Tank Industries in Florida comes with everything you need (also included the Fuel Gauge) to DIY install. It only takes 2-3 hours to install and looks great in the bed. Now combined with the stock 32gal (which holds more like 36-gal) and the new usable 42gal I am pushing 80 gallons with a towable range of 750 miles before desperate for fuel. With that you can easily pick you stops.

This was the best truck addition I made and it is cheap (about $700 delivered) and easy.

Note: there are two types of fuel delivery, Gravity feed and electric pump, my ford was electric and the Ram gravity and frankly there is NO advantage to electric, in fact simply more to go wrong with electric, like forget the pump is on, pump failure, whereas gravity feed is easy and pretty much fail proof.

https://www.tankandbarrel.com/rectangle-diesel-tanks-ati-aux46rik-ati-46-gallon-rectangle-diesel-auxiliary-fuel-tank-p-1223.html

https://www.tankandbarrel.com/images/ati/AUX46RIK.jpg

I will never drive more than 750 miles in a day and will mostly fuel after unhooked, however even if needing fuel between stops I can carefully select best options.

An Aux tank also end rang anxiety, we also have a Tesla and supercharges are generally 80 miles a part, we have a range of about 265 miles, this creates a fair amount of anxiety and planning for recharging, this is probably the ONLY downside to electric. However Tesla has done a great job of supercharger locations but there is still some anxiety when you get down below 30%. The Aux tank eliminates all Fuel anxiety makes traveling so much more relaxed especially if you are covering some serious miles

Bought the same tank from the same folks. Won't have another truck without one. Also, the ATI folks were great to work with. Asked the to move the filler neck back to the back corner (closest corner in your picture) to clear the stationary portion of my Bak-flip cover and they said no problem. Also needed an 90 degree angle shutoff valve, they sent one no charge. I plumbed mine through and external fuel filter, solenoid valve and fuel pump, with a manual bypass valve in case the solenoid or fuel pump goes out. I was concerned about how fast gravity would keep up with fuel usage, but now don't think it would be a problem.

mtlakejim
03-12-2020, 07:46 PM
Even if I had a gas burner, I would still fuel at truck stops. They are almost always located and designed for easy off/on to the highway and most have larger than average fueling areas with taller canopies even in the car bays. You will rarely get a second look from other folks at truck stop.


By contrast, fueling at a standard convience store usually means ackward entry and often your blocking other drivers in some manner. Your often going to miff someone off if not several other drivers as you try to contort your rig down congested city streets and turn into a location that was not designed with large vehicles in mind.


I get it that folks want to save money but with things like the EFS cards for diesel drivers coming out now so you get good discounts and can pay at the pump. It is extremely difficult for me to understand why anyone would put their rig at risk down unfamiliar city streets and possibly cause a very real traffic issue for other drivers. It only takes one slight miscalculation to cause enough damage to wipe out a lifetime of fuel savings.......why take the risk??? BTW with the EFS card and pay at the pump the truck drivers won't mind you at all so that argument is dead in the water now.

G & S Russell
03-12-2020, 08:36 PM
I’ve got an 80 gallon system from Aluminum Tank and Truck Accessories in Fort Worth. Mine is an L tank with a tool box. It automatically starts filling my main tank around 1/4 tank and stops at 7/8 tank. Don’t have to remember to do anything but drive. It has a filler cap on each side so you can use both pumps at a truck stop. It’s paid for itself just in the ability to wait and buy fuel where it’s cheaper. I’ve got about a 1,100 mile range now. This is the third tank I’ve bought from ATTA. Talk to Brad for more info on the Freedom Fill System.

margerush
03-19-2020, 07:38 AM
The passenger is the navigator for us. The navigator has to search Trip Wizard, Google maps for bridge heights, fuel stops, restaurants, campgrounds, reservations and backup directions. Hubby is a better navigator than me.

nemesis45
03-21-2020, 01:25 PM
So with the gravity feed will it run out your fill spout if you leave it on too long?
I have a 3500 Ram too.
Thanks

DebNJim B
03-22-2020, 11:56 AM
So with the gravity feed will it run out your fill spout if you leave it on too long?
I have a 3500 Ram too.
Thanks

Mine has an auto shut off in the transfer pipe. It won't feed into the main tank unless there is room for it. The fuel gage shows full until the aux tank is empty then it starts to go down. It might run out if the cap is left off. I have never tried that.
I still don't understand how the mileage is kept track in the computer but it does. It must measure the flow.

lightsout
03-22-2020, 01:00 PM
Like DebnJim said. all Gravity feeds have a check valve that shuts off flow so you never need to shut the valve. This is more of a problem with electric pump feeds. My last truck had an electric point to transfer had to have a timer switch installed because if you forgot and left it (the pump) on you would have problems. This is actually why I decided to go gravity this time. I have had both and my preference is gravity. There is no need for the extra expense of Pump and switches just one more thing to fail or require maintenance.

nemesis45
03-23-2020, 08:50 AM
Thanks for the replies on the on the transfer tanks.
Maybe we need one.
Ronnie

mhs4771
03-23-2020, 10:11 AM
One issue with the newer GMs and gravity feeds: If the computer doesn't see the fuel gauge decrease in a 100 miles of travel it will set a "Pending Code" and if you continue it will throw a "Check Engine code".
I'm running a Scan Gauge so I just clear the pending code when my fuel gauge drops to zero, which is approx every 100 miles until my aux tank is empty.

Charlie 3931fb
03-25-2020, 09:27 PM
A lot of Pilot/Flying J stations of RV specific fuel islands that have gas and diesel. Usually they have no canopy overhead and plenty of room to get in and out. Check out the Pilot/Flying J app or use RV Trip Wizard. They show which have the RV islands.

Loves has some RV islands with gas. We went to the key in 2015 and had no problem getting into gas stations anywhere in the keys and also anywhere in Florida. Good luck you will be fine

Charlie

jeffba
03-26-2020, 05:48 AM
One issue with the newer GMs and gravity feeds: If the computer doesn't see the fuel gauge decrease in a 100 miles of travel it will set a "Pending Code" and if you continue it will throw a "Check Engine code".
I'm running a Scan Gauge so I just clear the pending code when my fuel gauge drops to zero, which is approx every 100 miles until my aux tank is empty.

I was worried my Ford would do the same. It doesn't. Or if it does, I don't see it I have an ATTA. It fills when the tank gets to 1/2 and stops at 3/4. DTE just recalculates.

bshgto
03-26-2020, 08:44 AM
So on the last truck I had a gravity fill with a steel 45gal tank and then got the bright idea of putting a motorcycle fuel filter on it that is designed for gravity fill. The filter cloged up in 1/2 a tank with rust particles (this was a newer tank). Took the fill top off and looked inside with a flash light and it had rust covering much of the walls. So people with steel tanks you will be pumping lots of rust into your main tank and maybe creat issues that you don`t want to know how much it will cost to fix.
So went out and bought a 10 micron with water sepearator filter and a little cheap pump and now don`t worry about it. Think about it. Put this on easy just cut line and 2 clamps, done, you might be surprized what your putting in your tank.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00068OR8M/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

The advantage of his type is they are designed to be taken part and cleaned when cloged up.

Ironhawg
07-12-2020, 12:49 PM
I have a noob question for you experienced 5th wheelers. Last year we had a travel trailer towed with a 2018 Ram 2500 diesel. We were traveling with another couple. He was towing with a GMC 2500. In order to avoid the hassle of cramped gas pumps we decided to give truck stop diesel pumps a try. When I tried to fuel my truck it would only take fuel very slowly. If I tried pumping above the very lowest speed it was like the fuel would back up and I would get diesel "burped" all over me. It happened both times I tried the commercial pumps. After the second attempt I just opted to use the regular diesel pumps and was extra careful getting to and away from the pumps. Has anybody else experienced this?

lightsout
07-12-2020, 01:01 PM
I have a noob question for you experienced 5th wheelers. Last year we had a travel trailer towed with a 2018 Ram 2500 diesel. We were traveling with another couple. He was towing with a GMC 2500. In order to avoid the hassle of cramped gas pumps we decided to give truck stop diesel pumps a try. When I tried to fuel my truck it would only take fuel very slowly. If I tried pumping above the very lowest speed it was like the fuel would back up and I would get diesel "burped" all over me. It happened both times I tried the commercial pumps. After the second attempt I just opted to use the regular diesel pumps and was extra careful getting to and away from the pumps. Has anybody else experienced this?

1st off I avoid the auto lanes with a 5er at all times, too easy to get into a point of no return position. With that said My Ram 3500 has not problem with Truck lane pumps in fact I am in and our very fast s it is a bonus.

To avoid having to deal with auto lanes many of as have installed AUX tanks I have a 46 Gal so nearly 80 Gallons on board, so more range then I would drive on any given day. so very convenient to fuel after disconnected or stretch fuelings to the next truck stop.

I also fuel at the Truck lanes as I use the TSD Fuel Card with provides $0.25 $0.50 per gal discounts. Get one it is highly recommended, they have a card for RV'ers. (use lightsout as the referral)

https://www.tsdlogistics.com/services/fuel-program/

Anyway for about $600 you can DIY a decent size Aux fuel tank, however keep in mind it takes away from payload and with a 2500 3/4 ton you are likely already at or over payload pulling a Montana 5er

Ironhawg
07-12-2020, 01:05 PM
1st off I avoid the auto lanes with a 5er at all times, too easy to get into a point of no return position. With that said My Ram 3500 has not problem with Truck lane pumps in fact I am in and our very fast s it is a bonus.

To avoid having to deal with auto lanes many of as have installed AUX tanks I have a 46 Gal so nearly 80 Gallons on board, so more range then I would drive on any given day. so very convenient to fuel after disconnected or stretch fuelings to the next truck stop.

I also fuel at the Truck lanes as I use the TSD Fuel Card with provides $0.25 $0.50 per gal discounts. Get one it is highly recommended, they have a card for RV'ers. (use lightsout as the referral)

https://www.tsdlogistics.com/services/fuel-program/

Anyway for about $600 you can DIY a decent size Aux fuel tank, however keep in mind it takes away from payload and with a 2500 3/4 ton you are likely already at or over payload pulling a Montana 5er

Have you ever had a problem with the flow of fuel from the commercial pump seeming to overwhelm the fuel fill on the Ram? I have a Ram 3500 now and I have not yet tried to fuel it at a commercial diesel pump.

laverdur
07-12-2020, 01:08 PM
Have not had problem with burping but I only use the lowest setting in the truck lanes. For me, a bigger problem is the foam that happens when diesel is pumped. After the foam shuts the automatic nozzle off, if I wait for the foam to go down I can squeeze another 4 gallons into the tank. That takes time due to foaming and it is not a nice thing to do if someone is waiting for the pump. All that said, that is why I like my 57 gallon replacement tank. Only rarely do I have to get fuel with the Monty hooked up.

lightsout
07-12-2020, 01:10 PM
Have you ever had a problem with the flow of fuel from the commercial pump seeming to overwhelm the fuel fill on the Ram? I have a Ram 3500 now and I have not yet tried to fuel it at a commercial diesel pump.

Not at all even at full speed at least so far. I do carefully listen and near the very end I do slow it down a bit just in case the auto shut off is delayed. Also I have a 2019 which is the capless fuel fill so the spout of the fill gun does not leave much room for overflow to escape

Ironhawg
07-12-2020, 01:19 PM
Thanks for the replies. I have a 2019 Ram 3500 now, so I'm going to give the commercial pumps another try. I like to have options. I have seen way too many stations where there just absolutely was not room for a truck and fifth wheel to maneuver around their pumps.

Charlie 3931fb
07-12-2020, 01:30 PM
Thanks for the replies. I have a 2019 Ram 3500 now, so I'm going to give the commercial pumps another try. I like to have options. I have seen way too many stations where there just absolutely was not room for a truck and fifth wheel to maneuver around their pumps.

I have a 3500 Ram DWR long bed and I always fuel at truck stops when I am in tow with my 5th wheel. I run the fuel handle at the slow speed because it will come back on full speed with that bigger nozzle. Even with my 60 gallon tank it will still come back up. But it still only takes 10 minutes or so to fill up on slow.

DaveK
07-12-2020, 02:12 PM
Maneuvering a 37 ft 5er and truck around gas pumps is often a pain in the butt, 37,000 miles of towing. It's probably my greatest challenge in towing.

margerush
07-13-2020, 06:00 AM
Ironhawq, sounds like the gas station needed to change the diesel pump filter. We fuel at truck stop stations (loves, flying j, etc). The area may be greasy & dirty but fuel is clean & pumps correctly & easy in & out. We also have a Transflow 30 gal aux fuel tank in bed with auto feed to main fuel tank.

richfaa
07-13-2020, 08:28 AM
Truck lanes fuel at a higher flow rate than the auto lanes you do have to adjust for that. Most FJ's have RV diesel lanes. We primarily use those lanes. We are retired and in no hurry to get anywhere. We seldom run more than 3 hours between stops when on the road to rest and fuel . We do not require auxiliary fuel tanks.

jeffba
07-13-2020, 07:04 PM
Truck lanes fuel at a higher flow rate than the auto lanes you do have to adjust for that. Most FJ's have RV diesel lanes. We primarily use those lanes. We are retired and in no hurry to get anywhere. We seldom run more than 3 hours between stops when on the road to rest and fuel . We do not require auxiliary fuel tanks.

Rich I could go almost a week at your pace without refueling :)

richfaa
07-14-2020, 08:48 AM
Rich I could go almost a week at your pace without refueling :)

The perks of being retired and no time restrictions. 62/65 enjoy the trip. We also when on a road trip seldom make advance CG reservations as we may change travel at any time around 4 or 5Pm Helen starts looking for a place to coil up for the night pull through, full hookups shower, dinner good night rest and off the next morning by 9am or so. This year is 14 years of a great see the USA experience. This is the first year we have no summer travel plans due to the virus and the uncertainty of lodgings, etc.

We can get 40 gallons of diesel in the F-350 and can get depending on the conditions 350 miles or so per tank. We seldom run that far in one day. What's the hurry. We are however slowing down.