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powerhaulic
11-16-2019, 07:13 PM
Anyone tried a set of the USA made GoodYear Endurance?
I was thinking of trying their 255/85-16, rated 4080# @ 80psi and are 33.1" tall.

Taller than current 235/80-16, would make trailer easier to level w/truck, and getting the Anderson jack blocks under pads too.

DQDick
11-16-2019, 07:59 PM
So far I haven't seen any bad reviews on the Endurance tire. Would be interested in how the taller tire fits under a Montana, particularly with IS.

CaptnJohn
11-16-2019, 09:26 PM
On my last Montana I swapped tires the day I purchased it. I put Sailun 235/85/16. My new Montana arrived with Sailun tires. Not sure why anyone would pay more for Endurance when Sailun has a long term rep as the best trailer tire.

Carl n Susan
11-16-2019, 10:22 PM
The Endurance is 31.4" in diameter v. the G614 at 30.7" that works out to a 0.2" height increase, I doubt you will notice it and it won't affect hooking up.


Tire construction baffles me. The Endurance is a Load Range E (i.e. 10 ply) tire good for ~4K lns at max 80 P.S.I. The G614 (and the Sailun 637) are load range G (i.e. 14 ply) tires good for ~3500 (G614) or ~4k lbs. at 110 P.S.I..


I would think a 14 ply tire is stronger and can carry a heavier load than 10 ply. How a Load Range 10 ply E tire is rated to carry the same wight as a Sailun is beyond me. But as the Sailuns have a terrific track record and are cheaper than the Endurance, guess which ones I have?

Vet4jdc
11-17-2019, 05:38 AM
Anyone tried a set of the USA made GoodYear Endurance?
I was thinking of trying their 255/85-16, rated 4080# @ 80psi and are 33.1" tall.

Taller than current 235/80-16, would make trailer easier to level w/truck, and getting the Anderson jack blocks under pads too.

I put GY Endurance on our last 35' Montana Mountaineer when I had it. Our 2019 came with Rainer's and I have already changed them out with new Sailuns. I think the Sailun is a better, heavier tire and gets good ratings from RV owners. I would look there first before the GYE.

powerhaulic
11-17-2019, 07:50 AM
The Endurance is 31.4" in diameter v. the G614 at 30.7" that works out to a 0.2" height increase, I doubt you will notice it and it won't affect hooking up.


Tire construction baffles me. The Endurance is a Load Range E (i.e. 10 ply) tire good for ~4K lns at max 80 P.S.I. The G614 (and the Sailun 637) are load range G (i.e. 14 ply) tires good for ~3500 (G614) or ~4k lbs. at 110 P.S.I..


I would think a 14 ply tire is stronger and can carry a heavier load than 10 ply. How a Load Range 10 ply E tire is rated to carry the same wight as a Sailun is beyond me. But as the Sailuns have a terrific track record and are cheaper than the Endurance, guess which ones I have?
You didn't read the post, 255/85-16 are 33.1" additional load comes from size increase

mlh
11-17-2019, 09:26 AM
The Sailum has a better record than any of the GY tires and cost less.
I like gambling when the odds are heavy in my favor but not when they against me.
Lynwood

1retired06
11-17-2019, 09:31 AM
I quit running e load tires on my Montana units years ago, and strongly recommend G load tires for anyone with a heavy trailer.

jcurtis934
11-17-2019, 09:44 AM
After Goodyear gave us the marathon that supposedly could handle the weight, we should believe the marketing data on their load range e endurance? Me personally, no way in .... I will stick with my load range h tires.

Creeker
11-17-2019, 10:07 AM
I know all Jayco Travel Trailers, 5th Wheels and Toyhaulers come factory with the Goodyear Endurance tires. They also make some very heavy RV's just like our Montana's.

If you decide to go with the larger 255/85 let us know how they fit and perform. I'd much rather have a tire made in the US and will be looking at the Endurance this spring.

powerhaulic
11-17-2019, 11:50 AM
I know all Jayco Travel Trailers, 5th Wheels and Toyhaulers come factory with the Goodyear Endurance tires. They also make some very heavy RV's just like our Montana's.

If you decide to go with the larger 255/85 let us know how they fit and perform. I'd much rather have a tire made in the US and will be looking at the Endurance this spring.
Thats where I saw the first set of the 255's, on a 41' Jayco toy hauler.

phillyg
11-24-2019, 05:36 PM
I have Sailuns, but GY Endurance would be my second choice if they had my size.

CaptnJohn
11-24-2019, 06:24 PM
I have Sailuns, but GY Endurance would be my second choice if they had my size.

I've had Sailuns on my last 2 5ers. I'd not change if had to wait a few days.

Texan
11-24-2019, 07:14 PM
Sailuns for me. If it ain't broke don't fix it. Once I have a product that works for me I have a tendency to stick with it.

BRJ
11-24-2019, 07:17 PM
We did a 16000K trip up to Inuvik with our SOB. It had Goodyear Endurance tires. They seemed fine on pavement. But the Dempster highway did all of them in. We lost two and the others were junk when we got back to Dawson City. We replaced them there. We replaced the SOB when we got home. It didn't do well either.

Ram2013
11-25-2019, 09:08 AM
We also did Yukon and Alaska in 2015. Replaced 2 tires on trip but caught both before they blew out. Inspect them every time I stop. Did my trip with a Cardinal 5 th wheel. No issues. Have a Montana now and no way would it survive a trip up there.

Dave W
11-25-2019, 10:39 AM
I would be more concerned with how close they would run to both the wheel well and to each other. Approximately 2" larger diameter equals 1" radius. That 1" radius per tire puts them 2" closer together - and that 2" may be too much on some TT/5ers

ChuckS
11-25-2019, 12:32 PM
While the GY Endurance tire is a nice tire youíd be much better off going to the Sailun S637 series 14 ply G rated tire and high pressure metal valve stems.. the tires will outlast any E rated tire on the market...

saber707
11-25-2019, 02:05 PM
Anyone tried a set of the USA made GoodYear Endurance?
I was thinking of trying their 255/85-16, rated 4080# @ 80psi and are 33.1" tall.

Taller than current 235/80-16, would make trailer easier to level w/truck, and getting the Anderson jack blocks under pads too.


Have em and love em.....

Bad Moon
11-25-2019, 03:30 PM
I have about 10,000 miles so far on my GY Endurance tires with no issues. At the time I bought them they were cheaper than Sailuns. Tires are kind of like Trucks; you will find that lots of people think that the brand they own is the best, and all the rest is garbage.

Mikebikeman
11-25-2019, 03:35 PM
Put a set of the Goodyear Endurance ST235/85R16 ilo the stock ST235/80R16 Rainiers that came with on my 2016 Montana HC 353RL. So far they have been great! No issues with the fit even though they were an inch larger in OD. Goodyear really improved these over the Marathons and build them in the US!

Rod Spohn
11-26-2019, 10:45 AM
We also did Yukon and Alaska in 2015. Replaced 2 tires on trip but caught both before they blew out. Inspect them every time I stop. Did my trip with a Cardinal 5 th wheel. No issues. Have a Montana now and no way would it survive a trip up there.

Why do you say the Montana wouldn't survive? Curious because we want to make the drive up there when I retire. I've driven the road many times but never pulling a 5er.

CT Wanderer
11-26-2019, 11:01 AM
Put a set of the Goodyear Endurance ST235/85R16 ilo the stock ST235/80R16 Rainiers that came with on my 2016 Montana HC 353RL. So far they have been great! No issues with the fit even though they were an inch larger in OD. Goodyear really improved these over the Marathons and build them in the US!

I did the same change out on my 2016 305RL. No issues with spacing and it increased the weight rating and speed rating over the original tires. Each are rated for 3640lbs at 80 psi which gives 7280 lbs for each 6000 lb axle.

I've had them for two seasons now and find they hold pressure really well, only notice a drop in pressure when it gets cold outside which is normal. It seemed the Rainers needed air at the beginning of every trip.

Tread wear isn't noticeable yet so I expect they will age out before wearing out. The Rainers actually wore out.

BRJ
11-27-2019, 07:41 AM
Why do you say the Montana wouldn't survive? Curious because we want to make the drive up there when I retire. I've driven the road many times but never pulling a 5er.

After doing the whole Dempster this summer, the Montana is very capable of making the trip. The Sailun tires are the type recommended for the Dempster. And the Montana is so far better built than our SOB. It was light model, and did not hold up.

Rod Spohn
11-27-2019, 08:42 AM
BJR
Thanks for responding. Its good to know, I was hoping we didn't buy the wrong 5er for that kind of trip.

mlh
11-27-2019, 08:55 AM
BJR
Thanks for responding. Its good to know, I was hoping we didn't buy the wrong 5er for that kind of trip.

You didnít buy the wrong camper. Many members have made the trip to Alaska. All I can say is, take me. Itís my dream trip and my wife canít go, back trouble.
Lynwood

Dave W
11-27-2019, 09:14 AM
I wouldn't have a bit of trouble hauling our High Country to Alaske. Anyone that thinks a Montana, regardless of model isn't capable should do his homework before he posts ridiculous statements. We haven't gone nor can go since my wife, too has back problems which limits our daily travel miles

Ram2013
11-27-2019, 09:37 AM
Didn’t mean to scare you. I did the trip with a Cardinal by Forest River. 34 ft 5th wheel. Very well built. We put 17,080 miles on from time I left Denver PA. No issues except a finishing nail backed out I bathroom door trim. You might ask why I traded it and the answer is floor plan. That had a bunk house which was no longer needed.
I like the Montana but it is a constant work in process. Always something to fix. I just believe the frost boils would do it in. They are usually marked with cones but now and then they will sneak up on you.
I guess I just feel I do not want to be wrenching on it all the time. Seems like I traded in a much higher quality unit. Just my humble opinion.

team bradfield
11-27-2019, 02:28 PM
Sailuns are made in China aren't they? I've had GY G614's for years, on my 3rd set, never a problem.

CaptnJohn
11-27-2019, 07:09 PM
Sailuns are made in China aren't they? I've had GY G614's for years, on my 3rd set, never a problem.

Sailun are made there. They have their own factory made to US and CANADIAN specs. They are not contracted out. Sailun has the best proven record of them all. On my last Montana that came with Rainier I switched to Sailun 85 with 4400# rating . The new Montana came with Sailun 80 and will be switched to 85 at the 5 year mark. IMO an E rated tire shouldnít be on any heavy 5er.

Bad Moon
11-27-2019, 09:15 PM
Like I said. ^^^

phillyg
11-28-2019, 07:47 AM
Yes, Sailuns are Chinese, but to my knowledge, they're the only one with no complaints from us complainers. Well, I did see one, but there was no conclusion on whether or not it failed from a road hazard or improper inflation. Similarly, the GY Endurance is getting good reviews. If course, both comments are anecdotal.

mhs4771
11-28-2019, 09:34 AM
Just an FYI: Sailun also has plants in Korea and Vietnam as I/ve seen Sailun tires with those Country"s name on the side wall.

Sparatacus
11-28-2019, 10:16 PM
They came preinstalled on my 5th wheel I only have about 1000 miles on them, I did put these put on my Denali when I had it.

PSFORD99
11-29-2019, 12:26 PM
Why do you say the Montana wouldn't survive? Curious because we want to make the drive up there when I retire. I've driven the road many times but never pulling a 5er.


Have no idea why the comment. We are making that trip towing a 38' Montana fifth Wheel this coming summer 2020. No reservations at all with my fifth wheel . The trip will be approx 10k miles over three months.

The bearings will be packed, the tires are nearly new, as well as the spare. Suspension is in good shape ,replaced the shear springs last spring. Fifth wheel is good to go. Truck will be the same when the time comes .

We have talked too, and read many reports of people that have done that trip, and never heard or read anything about a fifth wheel not being able to make it. Except for now on this thread. Granted you certainly want everything in good shape, this not a weekend camping trip .

PSFORD99
11-29-2019, 12:33 PM
Didnít mean to scare you. I did the trip with a Cardinal by Forest River. 34 ft 5th wheel. Very well built. We put 17,080 miles on from time I left Denver PA. No issues except a finishing nail backed out I bathroom door trim. You might ask why I traded it and the answer is floor plan. That had a bunk house which was no longer needed.
I like the Montana but it is a constant work in process. Always something to fix. I just believe the frost boils would do it in. They are usually marked with cones but now and then they will sneak up on you.
I guess I just feel I do not want to be wrenching on it all the time. Seems like I traded in a much higher quality unit. Just my humble opinion.


Your post that your fifth wheel will not make the trip is an assumption, and far from a fact. Although there is some caution on that trip, and frost heaves are a concern, they are certainly not something that should prevent someone from making the trip.