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CaptnJohn
06-08-2018, 06:16 PM
GY had 98 death/injury claims in addition to damage claims. They made settlements to hide what was going on to avoid a recall. Yes, these are on motorhomes but Wrangler was junk on trucks and Marathon was junk on RVs. Personally, I'd not trust a bike tire with GY on it.

https://jalopnik.com/why-didnt-goodyear-recall-an-rv-tire-thats-linked-to-at-1826608206

AZ Traveler
06-08-2018, 07:13 PM
John,

They make good blimps. Also had good luck with running Wranglers when offroading my jeep. They have good double sidewalls that are not easily cut by rocks and do fine aired down to 5-10 PSI for traction.

Agree would not put them on my RV when Sailun is better for a much lower cost. Some MOC members have had decent performance from Goodyear on their rigs.

CaptnJohn
06-08-2018, 07:38 PM
John,

They make good blimps. Also had good luck with running Wranglers when offroading my jeep. They have good double sidewalls that are not easily cut by rocks and do fine aired down to 5-10 PSI for traction.

Agree would not put them on my RV when Sailun is better for a much lower cost. Some MOC members have had decent performance from Goodyear on their rigs.

It is a TRUST thing. Nine people died and 89 injured and they made secrete settlements. All the while people are buying tires they KNOW are dangerous and accidents continue. How many need to die before GY would think maybe they should say something? Nine deaths was not enough.

AZ Traveler
06-08-2018, 08:22 PM
It is a TRUST thing. Nine people died and 89 injured and they made secrete settlements. All the while people are buying tires they KNOW are dangerous and accidents continue. How many need to die before GY would think maybe they should say something? Nine deaths was not enough.

John,

They are likely not much different than other organizations taking advice from their law team. I believe a large percentage of legal settlements are kept secret.

No one tends to own up to mistakes as much as we would like to see. Hopefully they learn from the price of their mistakes and work to build better products. Seems like it should take more than a tire failure to cause an accident - how many of these likely involved some sort of driver error or other extenuating factor?

I generally pick my tires (and other things) based on my own past performance and reviews of others and not on what the manufacturer is saying good or bad. I always live with the mindset of "let the buyer beware".

richfaa
06-08-2018, 08:39 PM
All true but it was a single tire brand the G159. To me a tire is not better because it cost less. We have run many brand tires on our Trucks and RV's with not yet a problem.We now have G614s on our Montana and Michelin defenders on the F-350.

DQDick
06-08-2018, 09:07 PM
We had a 614 blow, but I held on to it six and a half years, have original equipment Sailuns now so we'll see how they do.

RKassl
06-08-2018, 09:18 PM
GY had 98 death/injury claims in addition to damage claims. They made settlements to hide what was going on to avoid a recall. Yes, these are on motorhomes but Wrangler was junk on trucks and Marathon was junk on RVs. Personally, I'd not trust a bike tire with GY on it.

https://jalopnik.com/why-didnt-goodyear-recall-an-rv-tire-thats-linked-to-at-1826608206

Your opinion has been noted and dismissed.

dfb
06-09-2018, 08:58 AM
I have owned GY MARATHONS MADE IN USA.. PUT NEW GY MARATHINS ON AND HAD 4 blowouts! Low and behold, THESE GY MARATHONS WERE MADE IN CHINA,! Never again...

mhs4771
06-09-2018, 09:04 AM
It was a tire designed for Local Delivery Trucks with no high speeds or long distance. Don't know who made the decision to put them on RVs, but just the design of the tire did not stand up to higher speeds and longer distances.
But I do agree GY should have come forward when the trend started and advised pulling them from RVs.

richfaa
06-09-2018, 09:08 AM
I have owned GY MARATHONS MADE IN USA.. PUT NEW GY MARATHINS ON AND HAD 4 blowouts! Low and behold, THESE GY MARATHONS WERE MADE IN CHINA,! Never again...


Yes one has to keep up. We put General tires on our 06 3400 and it turns out they were made in the Czech republic.It was right on the tire but I was not paying attention. It was however a very good tire.

CaptnJohn
06-09-2018, 09:55 AM
I have owned GY MARATHONS MADE IN USA.. PUT NEW GY MARATHINS ON AND HAD 4 blowouts! Low and behold, THESE GY MARATHONS WERE MADE IN CHINA,! Never again...

China is not all bad. The tire for heavy RVs with the best reputation is made there. Sailun has the best rep of all. Sadly, 16" is the smallest tire they produce.

phillyg
06-09-2018, 02:45 PM
The newer GY Endurance for trailers is getting good reviews so far. Only time will tell. I jumped on the Sailun bandwagon last year, yet I still hear that little voice in my head telling me they ain't gonna last, either. Only time will tell.

bigred715
06-09-2018, 04:05 PM
After the problems with the Goodyear Marathon "bombs" I'll never own a Goodyear tire again. Too many other good choices out there.

CaptnJohn
06-09-2018, 07:01 PM
The newer GY Endurance for trailers is getting good reviews so far. Only time will tell. I jumped on the Sailun bandwagon last year, yet I still hear that little voice in my head telling me they ain't gonna last, either. Only time will tell.

Marathon were good when they 1st came out. Now with GY hiding the fact people were being injured and killed with tires they knew were bad ~~ I'd never trust them with any tire. Happy I went with Sailun.

mazboy
06-10-2018, 08:27 AM
G614s are the answer. your issue with GY is just an opinion on one specific manufacturer. I'm sure other tire companies of the same size have the same issues.


read: https://amarolawfirm.com/personal-injury-lawsuit/product-liability/defective-tire-recall/

CaptnJohn
06-10-2018, 08:33 AM
G614s are the answer. your issue with GY is just an opinion on one specific manufacturer. I'm sure other tire companies of the same size have the same issues.

GY is the only company I've ever heard of that hid 90 injuries, 9 deaths, and countless accidents. Their G614 has a good reputation but Sailun has a better reputation at half the price.

PSFORD99
06-12-2018, 10:55 AM
G614s are the answer. your issue with GY is just an opinion on one specific manufacturer. I'm sure other tire companies of the same size have the same issues.


read: https://amarolawfirm.com/personal-injury-lawsuit/product-liability/defective-tire-recall/

There was a day when the G614's were about the only game in town, those days are long gone. Sailun's reputation ,and track record far exceeds the G614.

Thats the nice thing about being able to have a choice other then those overpriced, overrated G614's

PSFORD99
06-12-2018, 11:00 AM
The newer GY Endurance for trailers is getting good reviews so far. Only time will tell. I jumped on the Sailun bandwagon last year, yet I still hear that little voice in my head telling me they ain't gonna last, either. Only time will tell.


How much time do you think you need to be convinced they are a quality tire, its been too many years now to keep hearing that little voice.

I heard that little voice the whole time I ran the G614's , and knowing their reputation . I quit hearing it after getting the Sailun's, and hearing their reputation.

phillyg
06-12-2018, 01:08 PM
How much time do you think you need......its been too many years now to keep hearing that little voice......

Actually, I hear lots of voices in my head. Gotta go now, I hear another helicopter!

RKassl
06-12-2018, 01:34 PM
This is another thread that the moderator should close out. Definitely not a useful discussion at all.

AZ Traveler
06-12-2018, 03:32 PM
Agree with Bob. One of the things I have learned from my years on the planet is to use the word "never" sparingly. I have had to eat crow more than once.

CaptnJohn
06-12-2018, 03:39 PM
Agree with Bob. One of the things I have learned from my years on the planet is to use the word "never" sparingly. I have had to eat crow more than once.

I use the word soaringly. When it comes to anything/anyone I do not trust like with GY it fits. Continuing to sell a product known to cause injuries and deaths makes them as trustworthy as a pet rattlesnake.

AZ Traveler
06-12-2018, 03:44 PM
No need to badmouth Rattlesnakes.

PSFORD99
06-12-2018, 06:18 PM
This is another thread that the moderator should close out. Definitely not a useful discussion at all.

Not useful to some, or they just don't want to hear it, but if unaware of some of the problems Goodyear has had its a very useful discussion.

PSFORD99
06-12-2018, 06:21 PM
Actually, I hear lots of voices in my head. Gotta go now, I hear another helicopter!


Hopefully you don't listen to all of them !! :D

miton 5052
06-13-2018, 02:37 PM
I run the same thing, got everything from discount tire , no problems ,2 yrs and 11,000 mi

packnrat
06-13-2018, 07:29 PM
not so sure if bad tires. or other.
how many millions of these tires are on the rd now?
at what rate this or any line or brand of tire fail. not just good year tires.
and 99% of the tires on American hwy's are manf in communist china. think over reaching government controls, and that is why not mant tires (or much of anything) is manf in the U,S, of A.

CaptnJohn
06-13-2018, 07:54 PM
not so sure if bad tires. or other.
how many millions of these tires are on the rd now?
at what rate this or any line or brand of tire fail. not just good year tires.
and 99% of the tires on American hwy's are manf in communist china. think over reaching government controls, and that is why not mant tires (or much of anything) is manf in the U,S, of A.

GY knew of accidents, injuries, and deaths caused by this MH tire yet hid the fact. You are aware the RV tire with the best reputation of all is made in China, right? Check Sailun tires.

coachgrowl
06-13-2018, 09:22 PM
I always run michelins on every vehicle I have owned for the last 50 years. No better tire on the planet in mho. The do not make a tire for rv's Why? because rv's are a pain in the a@@. People do not check tire pressure etc etc etc. Michelin does not need the aggrevation. Salins are the way to go.

Berny Montgomery
06-13-2018, 10:26 PM
I agree, I have a 39' 3402RL. I have had 2 major blowouts with Marithon tires. Now 39' and up fifth wheels are coming with 14 ply tires. Goodyear should have been sued big time for all those crappy marithon tires that they installed from from Keystone!!

packnrat
06-13-2018, 10:58 PM
good year is too big to sue. a rv company can not afford the team of lawyers.
gy would keep it out of court for decades. and counter sue ( and win) if bad was said about them.

and then forget discount/ bulk pricing. from ANY tire supplyer.
as they would not want to be sued, or have bad press about them.

CaptnJohn
06-13-2018, 11:54 PM
good year is too big to sue. a rv company can not afford the team of lawyers.
gy would keep it out of court for decades. and counter sue ( and win) if bad was said about them.

and then forget discount/ bulk pricing. from ANY tire supplyer.
as they would not want to be sued, or have bad press about them.

Individuals sued GY. GY made huge settlements under agreements they records sealed so no one, not even the govt, would know.

jeffba
06-14-2018, 12:41 AM
not so sure if bad tires. or other.
how many millions of these tires are on the rd now?
at what rate this or any line or brand of tire fail. not just good year tires.
and 99% of the tires on American hwy's are manf in communist china. think over reaching government controls, and that is why not mant tires (or much of anything) is manf in the U,S, of A.


My son works for Cooper Tire. Plant Superintendent. There are american made tires to be had.

Phil P
06-14-2018, 03:28 AM
Hi

100,000 miles on 2 sets of G614 and no problems still running both sets on the Montana and an equipment trailer.

When I first contacted GY about the Marathon the dealer read me a litter from GY to the RV manufacturer including Keystone stating that they were not designed for the application.

So who’s fault is it that they are still being put on RV's?

Phil P

dfb
06-14-2018, 07:44 AM
I think gy has rv tire marathons either china or usa made now..

Dave W
06-15-2018, 10:33 AM
The only GY tire I've had on an RV were US made Marathons that aged out in 2010 and were on an '06 Titanium. Then they started making that tire in China and the troubles began. I put General LTs on the Titanium and they were never a problem in 5 years. The current HC was supplied with 'China Bombs' so instead of looking further, installed the General LTs again. Now at 3.5 years, they still look just fine a about 18,000 miles with virtually no tread wear, no cracks or bubbles. Obviously, these tires cannot be used on any 5er over approximately 12,000 pounds due their capacity rating but have been great for our use.



GY tires on my different pickups never lasted well, especially with many heat cycles making them extremely hard and dang near dangerous in wet or snow conditions, even to the point of wildly spinning under light acceleration on a white road center line. Then there was the fact they were worn to almost baldies at ~35,000 miles



I do like the Michelin Defenders currently. on this truck

bshgto
06-15-2018, 04:00 PM
Given the number of people bad mouthing the Goodyear's you`d think it was a thread about the Andersen Ultimate hitch. Doesn't matter what you/we think they`re to big to fail.

CaptnJohn
06-15-2018, 04:20 PM
They may be but their ties are not

mazboy
07-14-2018, 02:27 PM
I just have to add another thing to this thread. This thread seems to be devolped on half truths. and not accurate information.


first off the GY tire that there seems to be an issue about is the MOTOR HOME tire a G159.

secondly, it is just an ALLEGATION at this point.



And lastly, the number of deaths is not 95, allegation is stating both injured and deaths. (over 20 years....not a few years)


This is how rumors get us all confused. this allegation relates ONLY to the G159.


So I guess I want to say, don't take everything you read in this forum as fact.

richfaa
07-14-2018, 02:45 PM
We are on our 2nd set of G614's. We have not had a problem with any tire we ran on any of our RV's.Cooper, General, GY. WE did ditch the OEM missions on our 06 3400 before they could disintegrate. TPMS, proper inflation, proper speed, proper maint quality tire.

bigred715
07-14-2018, 03:10 PM
I have currently LT235/85-16 Michelin on my 3000RK and they have worked fine for 6 1/2 yrs. Had Michelin Ribs on my 2001 2880 Montana. So they do make Michelin tires that work on RV's. You people with the big Montanas, due to weight can't use the Michelin, but a lot of us with smaller trailers can. I will be going to the Sailuns this next month due to price and being highly recommened by this forum.

wade
08-03-2018, 08:06 PM
just bought a 2017 montana high country 310RE. It had rainner st 235/80R16 10 ply tires with just a few thousand miles on them. Up graded to the new goodyear endurance 235/85R16 10 ply Made in the USA tires they had a little more weight rating than the original tires. seem to have a stiffer Sidewall and looks to be made well, but as we say time will tell. I got only a couple thousand miles on them in some good hot weather and some pretty rough roads.I thought about salun tires and a couple other brands but I didn't want to rugged of a tire as I thought it would pound the camper pretty hard going down the highway as my camper has a 14200 GVWR and they just don't make campers like they use to.

Bad Moon
08-03-2018, 09:02 PM
just bought a 2017 montana high country 310RE. It had rainner st 235/80R16 10 ply tires with just a few thousand miles on them. Up graded to the new goodyear endurance 235/85R16 10 ply Made in the USA tires they had a little more weight rating than the original tires. seem to have a stiffer Sidewall and looks to be made well, but as we say time will tell. I got only a couple thousand miles on them in some good hot weather and some pretty rough roads.I thought about salun tires and a couple other brands but I didn't want to rugged of a tire as I thought it would pound the camper pretty hard going down the highway as my camper has a 14200 GVWR and they just don't make campers like they use to.

Same here. We had one blowout with the original Rainers, and wore out 2 due to out-of-alignment, and replaced them with the Endurance. Our second previous trailer had Marathons, and they lasted forever, finally replaced them because of (very) old age. I have no particular grudge against. or love for Goodyear, but most companies will, if they can, settle lawsuits out of court, and usually with a non-disclosure agreement; it's not illegal, or even unethical; if they KNOWINGLY continued to sell dangerous tires, that is inexcusable (think Firestone tires and Ford Exploder). Tires are probably the most neglected part of the trailer, and lots of people rarely check them until they go flat, so there's that to consider.

CaptnJohn
08-03-2018, 09:08 PM
just bought a 2017 montana high country 310RE. It had rainner st 235/80R16 10 ply tires with just a few thousand miles on them. Up graded to the new goodyear endurance 235/85R16 10 ply Made in the USA tires they had a little more weight rating than the original tires. seem to have a stiffer Sidewall and looks to be made well, but as we say time will tell. I got only a couple thousand miles on them in some good hot weather and some pretty rough roads.I thought about salun tires and a couple other brands but I didn't want to rugged of a tire as I thought it would pound the camper pretty hard going down the highway as my camper has a 14200 GVWR and they just don't make campers like they use to.


Only a minor upgrade. That 5er is too heavy for LR 10 tires IMO. Your wheels are rated for 110 psi. You could have saved money and bought the best available ~~ Sailun LR G. Could have run them for any psi from 80# on up to 110.

wade
08-03-2018, 09:23 PM
I definitely check my tires over periodically on every trip. I choose the GY endurance because of them being a new design and American made plus if something happens to one of the endurance tires I stand a pretty good chance of being able to get one to match up with the others wherever I may be. At least up here in New England anyways. Some of them other brand tires my local tire companies never even heard of and they don't carry anything 14 ply if I did want to go that heavy of a ply

wade
08-03-2018, 09:44 PM
Only a minor upgrade. That 5er is too heavy for LR 10 tires IMO. Your wheels are rated for 110 psi. You could have saved money and bought the best available ~~ Sailun LR G. Could have run them for any psi from 80# on up to 110.

I didn't want that heavy of a tire as the camper only has a weight rating of 14200. didn't want it to beat the camper to death as its already had structural issues with it (broken welds) and the camper is only 3 months old probably 5000 miles on it. I also have been told in many forums and tire dealers not to run the ST tires below the psi rating on the tire so I didn't want to have to put 110 psi in the tires. the salun tires would have to be a mail order thing up where I live so getting a replacement in case something happen like cutting a tire or something else would just be a pain in the but if I needed it right now. The endurance tire in the 85 version is rated for 3640 lbs

Bad Moon
08-03-2018, 10:54 PM
Only a minor upgrade. That 5er is too heavy for LR 10 tires IMO. Your wheels are rated for 110 psi. You could have saved money and bought the best available ~~ Sailun LR G. Could have run them for any psi from 80# on up to 110.

Nonsense. I have the same trailer GVWR 14,285 (but i am nowhere near that fully loaded}. I scale at 9,300# on the wheels and 2,900 on the pin. 9300 /4= 2,300 per tire. Tires are rated 3685# @80psi. I am running at 62% of the tire capacity. Even assuming unbalanced load, I am well within safe operating range of the tires. His comments on softer ride are spot-on.

richfaa
08-04-2018, 10:47 AM
We used various brands of tires on our 4 much lighter TT's including Goodyears with never a problem. Montana's can be much heavier and require a tires that can safely support the weight. This 13 3402 came OEM with Goodyear G614's and that is what will stay.

DQDick
08-04-2018, 10:57 AM
We currently have the OEM Sailun that came on our new rig, but when it comes time to "retire" we will most likely go back to 614's. Personally I don't think chinese tire manufacturers are any more honest with buyers than Goodyear was with motorhome owners.

Renegade1LI
08-06-2018, 07:35 PM
just bought a 2017 montana high country 310RE. It had rainner st 235/80R16 10 ply tires with just a few thousand miles on them. Up graded to the new goodyear endurance 235/85R16 10 ply Made in the USA tires they had a little more weight rating than the original tires. seem to have a stiffer Sidewall and looks to be made well, but as we say time will tell. I got only a couple thousand miles on them in some good hot weather and some pretty rough roads.I thought about salun tires and a couple other brands but I didn't want to rugged of a tire as I thought it would pound the camper pretty hard going down the highway as my camper has a 14200 GVWR and they just don't make campers like they use to.
We replaced the crap tires after a blowout in new mexico with GY endurance, the trailer was much smoother & seemed to track better. This is a triple axle 18k alfa toy house. Just looking at these they appear very well made, nice scuff guard to proyect from a rub. Do your home work, talk to a real tire shop, you won't be disappointed

PSFORD99
08-07-2018, 10:38 AM
We currently have the OEM Sailun that came on our new rig, but when it comes time to "retire" we will most likely go back to 614's. Personally I don't think chinese tire manufacturers are any more honest with buyers than Goodyear was with motorhome owners.

Yet, with the reputation of both, still going back with the G614's. ???????

I understand your thinking about most Chinese tires, but Sailuns, not sure I get it, but then its not my choice.

Although I can't complain about the one set of G614's that I did run, their reputation has never been as good as the Sailuns. The one thing I refuse to do is pay the outrageous price for the Goodyears , it ridiculous . As long as the Sailuns are around, and the price they are, I will never give the price they want for the Goodyears.

There was a day when the G614's were the only decent game in town for our heavier fifth wheels, with a less then stellar reputation , that is no longer the case now with the Sailun's. To each his own .

Denny and Angie Miller
08-13-2018, 10:17 AM
Hi

100,000 miles on 2 sets of G614 and no problems still running both sets on the Montana and an equipment trailer.

When I first contacted GY about the Marathon the dealer read me a litter from GY to the RV manufacturer including Keystone stating that they were not designed for the application.

So who’s fault is it that they are still being put on RV's?

Phil P
When we had our Cougar, we had a blowout on Chinese tires, then again on Mexican tires that were 1 load range higher than required, then a blowout on marathons....FINALLY I educated myself...turns out the marathons I had were rated at 65 mph. I had been driving 70+....
I bought another set of marathons, had them BALANCED, maintained my SPEED 65 or less, WEIGHED my trailer, and used the LOAD INFLATION TABLES. That was 2013, and I have not had 1 blow out since. I believe most (not all) peoples tire brand issues are from overloaded/under inflated/over driven conditions. I know my blowouts definitely were a direct result of my own ignorance on limitations of the tire. As far as marathons go, they are a great tire IMO. They are NOT meant to be on heavy trailers like Montana. If you had a marathon blow out on a montana, point the finger at the installer, or in some cases maybe even the driver, but not the manufacturer.

Renegade1LI
08-13-2018, 12:56 PM
Just picked up my mothers new Jayco 34rsbs it came with good year endurance tires, nice to see a made in the US sticker on each side.

Phil P
08-14-2018, 04:39 AM
Hi

I failed 2 G614s on this trip they have about 60,000 miles on them and are 7 years old. Both are on the axle that failed the passenger side spring on in 2013. I just replaced all 5 tires with the Firestone TransForce HT we will see how these hold up. They have been doing well on the TV we are on our third set without problems.

Phil P

DQDick
08-14-2018, 08:59 AM
You will find that tire manufacturers say trailer tires should be replaced every 5-7 years regardless of use. You'll find several of us on here who can tell you not to try for the 7.

1retired06
08-14-2018, 09:12 AM
Hi

I failed 2 G614s on this trip they have about 60,000 miles on them and are 7 years old. Both are on the axle that failed the passenger side spring on in 2013. I just replaced all 5 tires with the Firestone TransForce HT we will see how these hold up. They have been doing well on the TV we are on our third set without problems.

Phil P

Ran TransForce HTs on our 05 and 10, Never an issue.

richfaa
08-14-2018, 09:55 AM
We replaced our G6 14's on our 13 3402 because we wanted to and did not mind paying the price.

Phil P
08-14-2018, 06:27 PM
Hi richfaa

There is no problem with the G614s except the cost.

These 2 tires were on the axle that we failed the spring on in 2013.

The one that failed on I26 just shed its tread and that was the one cut so bad in 2013 the other one was drug sideways for a fair ways and probably had damage that wasn’t apparent.

I have run them at least 30,000 miles after that event and about 60,000 total. These failures are not because there is anything wrong with the tire just me trying to squeeze all I can get out of them before removing and just waited too long.

Do you understand “cheap”!!! LOL

Phil P

mlh
08-14-2018, 06:54 PM
Hi

I failed 2 G614s on this trip they have about 60,000 miles on them and are 7 years old. Both are on the axle that failed the passenger side spring on in 2013. I just replaced all 5 tires with the Firestone TransForce HT we will see how these hold up. They have been doing well on the TV we are on our third set without problems.

Phil P

Now let me see you had tires with 60,000 miles and 7 years on them and had 2 blowouts. Goodyear stores are even supposed to fix a flat on them with that much age on. That is Goodyear Corp policy and they made the tires.
Lynwood

richfaa
08-14-2018, 07:20 PM
My G6 14's had less @ 45K on them but we got this 13 3402 in July of 2012.They looked OK and had good thread left but they were more than 5 years old. We do not run this 13 3402 as much as we ran the 06 3400 but most of our travel is on interstates at interstate speeds.We thought nearly 6 years was enough and bit the bullet for new shoes.
We also got 6 new tires for the F-350 Michelin's. Ten quality tires put a big dent in the travel budget but safety has no price tag.

mhs4771
08-14-2018, 07:26 PM
Just so you know, not all Sailuns are made in China. Saw a stack of 17.5" Sailuns at MORryde recently that were stamped "Made in Viet Nam", now I do agree that some will say that's the same as Made in China.

Phil P
08-15-2018, 06:23 AM
Now let me see you had tires with 60,000 miles and 7 years on them and had 2 blowouts. Goodyear stores are even supposed to fix a flat on them with that much age on. That is Goodyear Corp policy and they made the tires.
Lynwood


HI

Goodyear has a 7 year life on the G614 so they will repair the tire if it is not over 7 years old.

These are not over 7 years old by a couple of months. LOL

But as I stated both tires have been subject to and extreme trauma 5 years ago. The only chance I took was blowing a tire and only blew 1.

I have blown tire on Semi trailers many times and it is a none event. So the only chance I took was damaging a trailer with 100,000 miles on it and nearing the end of its useful life. So now I need to locate a fender but no other damage.

Phil

Phil P
08-15-2018, 06:27 AM
richfaa

Goodyear has a 7 year life on the G614.

The two reaming tires will join the other 4 10 year old G614s on one of the ranch trailers and will be run until they blow out.


Phil

Drake
08-15-2018, 11:09 AM
Most of you know many tires are made in China. I researched and found Goodyear Endurance one that is made in USA. Most Goodyear are made in China. I bought ST235 / 80 R16 123N E1 BSW. They are 10 ply rated.
I bought these six months ago and put them through a couple of tests. We went up hwy 101 in Northern California through hail, rain, freezing rain and snow last March. Just three weeks ago we visited Mt Rainer and Mt Lassen through 100 degree heat and 10,000 ft elevations.
We had these tires on a 1962 Streamline trailer I refurbished and put 8000 miles on them. No issues. Great tire

richfaa
08-15-2018, 12:45 PM
richfaa

Goodyear has a 7 year life on the G614.

The two reaming tires will join the other 4 10 year old G614s on one of the ranch trailers and will be run until they blow out.


Phil

My G6 14's are now on a boat trailer and he was glad to get them.This same person put my OEM mission tires, remember them, that I replaced within the first year on my 06 3400 on a boat trailer and ran them till they wore out.

Phil P
08-15-2018, 09:17 PM
richfaa

I think it has a lot to do with the weight. These trailers load the axles almost to their maximum.

Phil P

wade
08-17-2018, 06:28 PM
what's the difference in how these first two tires are made ,to have different weight ratings Good Year G614 they are 14 ply but only 3850 lbs weight capacity 75 MPHspeed rating, Saluns S637 a 14 ply tire has a 4400 lbs weight rating couldn't find a speed rating. both in a 235/85R16 size. And not comparing at all just throwing it out there for the information the Good Year endurance USA made 235/85R16 10 Ply has a 3750 lbs weight rating 87 MPH speed rating

CarWin
08-17-2018, 07:49 PM
If not mistaken the Sailuns are speed rated at ....127mph..... yes I said 127 mph. I had read that info on another thread on this site but it wasn’t an “official” Sailun link that it was on.

Carl n Susan
08-17-2018, 08:56 PM
If not mistaken the Sailuns are speed rated at ....127mph..... yes I said 127 mph. I had read that info on another thread on this site but it wasn’t an “official” Sailun link that it was on.
Not quite 127 MPH. Actually 75 MPH - still faster than I drive.

Source: https://simpletire.com/sailun-235-85r16-5540993-tires

Service Description: 132 L (hover over the "?" at the end and they translate 132L to something you can understand).

Denny and Angie Miller
08-18-2018, 08:47 AM
I have attached a pdf file explaining new load range codes, (including dual tires) and speed ratings. I tried just posting the info, but I cant keep the column format proper. Enjoy.

richfaa
08-18-2018, 09:49 AM
richfaa

I think it has a lot to do with the weight. These trailers load the axles almost to their maximum.

Phil P

We did our first road trip of @ 7K miles with the missions that came OEM on our 06 3400 without a problem. This forum was full of mission failures and we decided not to tempt fate. The missions did well on a boat trailer and boat that weighed considerably less than the Montana.

PSFORD99
08-19-2018, 01:22 PM
We did our first road trip of @ 7K miles with the missions that came OEM on our 06 3400 without a problem. This forum was full of mission failures and we decided not to tempt fate. The missions did well on a boat trailer and boat that weighed considerably less than the Montana.

I too got the Missions off my 2008 3400 after a few thousand miles, and put on a set of G614's, they I got even smarter ,and put on a set of Sailuns :D

WeBeFulltime
08-19-2018, 02:41 PM
If not mistaken the Sailuns are speed rated at ....127mph..... yes I said 127 mph. I had read that info on another thread on this site but it wasn’t an “official” Sailun link that it was on.

Well i guess I can't get the Sailuns then! I prefer to tow at 128 mph. :hide:

mlh
08-19-2018, 03:54 PM
Well i guess I can't get the Sailuns then! I prefer to tow at 128 mph. :hide:

Darn much too slow. You just can’t make any time at 127.
Lynwood

CarWin
08-19-2018, 06:00 PM
Well i guess I can't get the Sailuns then! I prefer to tow at 128 mph. :hide:

When I take my coach over to Germany,I`m running on the Autobahn at 127 mph to see if they hold up.:nonono: