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Mel B.
06-23-2017, 05:24 PM
getting ready to buy these, but I thought there was supposed to be a T after S637? It's on simple tire and when I do the search and add the T it doesn't come up on their site.
Tire Image$131.93 / tireSailun S637, 235/85R -16, 5540993
$527.72

Mel B.
06-23-2017, 07:06 PM
I know this has been beet to death. But I tried searching on here but theres hundreds of pages on these tires. And I thought they were supposed to have a T for trailer after the S637 but I went ahead and pulled the plug on these. Shipped to my house and les schwab said $17 apiece Mounted and balanced. Spent all afternoon shopping and these were $200 under the lowest

wptrip
06-23-2017, 08:04 PM
Don't know if it's too late but I just checked the price this morning for the same tire at Simple tire and saw the same price quote of $131.93. There is a sale promotion that runs through the end of August for 10%off by using code SMR17TRK at checkout bringing each tire down to $118.74. Hope you can still qualify for the discount if you already ordered and didn't use the code.

rohrmann
06-23-2017, 11:12 PM
The Sailun tire is a S637, which is the model of the tire. There are now two sizes, the 80 series and the 85 series. Both of those tires are ST, Special Trailer, so which ever one of the sizes you bought, they are both good. The original size, the 85 size was an LT tire, still exactly the same as the new ST tire, just Sailun dodging an import tariff that is now imposed on LT tires, but not ST tires.

Rick G
06-24-2017, 08:13 AM
Mel B., I'm not as knowledgeable as most of the people on this forum, but there is a lot of discussion about the pressure ratings of wheels with the different model years of the campers. Before buying those 110 psi tires you may want to determine the psi rating of your wheels to make sure your rims are compatible with the 110 psi tires.

Mel B.
06-24-2017, 10:00 AM
Don't know if it's too late but I just checked the price this morning for the same tire at Simple tire and saw the same price quote of $131.93. There is a sale promotion that runs through the end of August for 10%off by using code SMR17TRK at checkout bringing each tire down to $118.74. Hope you can still qualify for the discount if you already ordered and didn't use the code.

Yes I did get the discount, but but with shipping and the FET fees it raises from the price you see when you move foreword with the purchase I payed $149.50 each. still even with mounting and balance it's cheaper then Big-O or Les schwab.
Quantity Price Total
Sailun S637 235/85R -16 - 235/85R 16 - L (245.2 lbs) 5540993 4 $131.93 $527.72
Commercial Tire Summer 17
Shipping
FET
- $52.77
$89.01
$34.04
Total $598.00
And I did stop by les schwab with my trailer the guy looked under the trailer at the back of the aluminium rims and said they are rated for 110PSI I hope he's right. I went all under there later with a flashlight, and couldn't find anything. We'll see soon. Lots of posts on here about people running these tires at 85 psi?
Also the tires that are on my trailer were installed by the origenal owner. they look like new. I'm just not willing to go on a long trip with these. I've never heard of the brand they say "2 PLY" but I'm sure I'll sell them for $50 each they look like new, just not willing to take a chanch with them on my 5ver.

RV6A
06-24-2017, 03:17 PM
I just replace all 5 tires on our 2009 3075RL with Sailun S637 235/85R-16
$779 for the tires.
$100 for mount and balance.

I had one Marathon that had started wearing large time on the inside so I swapped it for the spare last year. All 5 were only 5 years old. It turns out the tire had separated internally but had not come apart. I am glad I no longer have the Marathons on the trailer. I may have paid to much but I'll sleep better while towing from now on.

CaptnJohn
06-24-2017, 03:47 PM
I just replace all 5 tires on our 2009 3075RL with Sailun S637 235/85R-16
$779 for the tires.
$100 for mount and balance.

I had one Marathon that had started wearing large time on the inside so I swapped it for the spare last year. All 5 were only 5 years old. It turns out the tire had separated internally but had not come apart. I am glad I no longer have the Marathons on the trailer. I may have paid to much but I'll sleep better while towing from now on.


I don't think you paid too much.
5 Fresh 235/85/R16 Sailun tires mounted, balanced, installed $716 a few days ago.

Mel B.
06-24-2017, 05:50 PM
I just replace all 5 tires on our 2009 3075RL with Sailun S637 235/85R-16
$779 for the tires.
$100 for mount and balance.

I had one Marathon that had started wearing large time on the inside so I swapped it for the spare last year. All 5 were only 5 years old. It turns out the tire had separated internally but had not come apart. I am glad I no longer have the Marathons on the trailer. I may have paid to much but I'll sleep better while towing from now on.

I agree with Capt. John, you didn't pay to much, you know the prices are all over the board. And how much time you want to spend. I spent a few hours calling all the main tire shops in my county. I have the 235/85x16 so Big-O in healdsburg ca. $875.66, Big-O in Santa Rosa Ca. Sorry we can't get them. But your Healdsburg store said they can get them? Sorry We can't. okay.
Big-O in Rohnert Park Ca. $806.00 So I asked you can get them? of course she said.
Les Schwab Windsor Ca. We can only get the 235/80X16 for $1190.22
Simple tire on line with the 10% coupon and no tax delivered to my house for a total for the S637 235/85X16 $598.00 Now I have the luxery of waiting another week or so, because were home and not sitting somewhere with a bad tire. So When they get here I'll hook up the monty have my son come over and throw the tires in my truck and drive 2 miles to Les Schwab and for $20 a wheel have them mounted and balanced. For a grand total of $678.00 then I will take a picture of my old tires list on Craigslist and sell for $50 each. Bottom line is you get the deal that works best for you and the situation your in while tire shopping. Now If I would have paid Les schwab the $1190.22 then I would be the first to say I got screwed. Probably the hardest thing about this was trying to make my wife understand why we needed new tires when the tires on the rig look like new, with a 2 ply side wall. ( I didn't buy them )

CaptnJohn
06-24-2017, 07:19 PM
Probably the hardest thing about this was trying to make my wife understand why we needed new tires when the tires on the rig look like new, with a 2 ply side wall. ( I didn't buy them )

Think that is tough~~ wife cannot understand why a brand new camper only goes from the dealer to the tire shop for new tires before anywhere else.

Mel B.
06-24-2017, 07:23 PM
Yeah, they just think we're trying to spend more $$$ on the latest and greatest.

twindman
06-24-2017, 07:30 PM
I would double check the psi rating on your tires. I had a 2006 2980 and it had the aluminum rims. They were only 80 lb. pressure.

Mel B.
06-24-2017, 08:15 PM
I would double check the psi rating on your tires. I had a 2006 2980 and it had the aluminum rims. They were only 80 lb. pressure.

Yeah I will go look again, like I said the guy at Les schwab said they are 110. But later I couldn't find anything, (Hot out, Concrete very hot) but I looked with a flash light on the right side rear. (the same place the tire guy did) I'll go out now with a creeper and a good light and double check. I hope your wrong.

CaptnJohn
06-24-2017, 08:46 PM
Montana dealer said they are using the same wheels across the line now. All Montanas and HCs have same wheels no matter if shipped with LR E or LR G tires in 2017 he said. Sounded good so I contacted the manufacturer of the wheel, yep ~~ 110 rated.

Golfmedik
06-25-2017, 05:30 AM
Think that is tough~~ wife cannot understand why a brand new camper only goes from the dealer to the tire shop for new tires before anywhere else.

When we had our Sandpipers, my wife heard me complaining about the Chinese junk and didn't think anything about it until her parent's 5er had the side destroyed by the same tires. Then it was a must on ours. Since then we've ran 14 ply tires on our other Sandpiper and ordered them on the Montana. We were at our dealership looking around on Friday and it is great to see a lot more manufacturers put G rated tires on them coming from the factory.

Mel B.
06-25-2017, 07:25 AM
I would double check the psi rating on your tires. I had a 2006 2980 and it had the aluminum rims. They were only 80 lb. pressure.

So I found nothing on the Rims. Then my son stopped by and said let's pull one off. So he pulled one off and on the rim behind the brake drum was 80PSI, First thought, I'm screwed. but I ordered them at 6:30 P.M. pacific time on Friday night and they are back east so they were closed until tomorrow 6:00 A.M So I sent an e-mail telling them I need to cancel my order. So now I need to find the next best tire out there for my 80 PSI aluminum rims, Are start shopping for different rims. Any thoughts?

PeteandJoan
06-25-2017, 09:23 AM
Get the rims. On My SOB I would not spend the money for new rims and continued to have to use shabby tires (and I tried them all...E rated) and continued to have blowouts or tire problems. I took one trip with this Montana and the China Bombs and then got Goodyear 14 ply and felt safer ever since. It's cheaper in the long run and much less hassle and problems and no insurance claims for blowout damage. It's only money....if you can do it , spend it!!

Carl n Susan
06-25-2017, 09:43 AM
...And I did stop by les schwab with my trailer the guy looked under the trailer at the back of the aluminium rims and said they are rated for 110PSI...

Unless the previous owner(s) changed the rims on your 2955, you have 3120 lb. 80 PSI rims on your 5,280 lb rated axles. By a good E rated LT tire (Michelin Ribs, Duravis 250 or similar) and be done with it.

prndl
06-25-2017, 03:15 PM
So I found nothing on the Rims. Then my son stopped by and said let's pull one off. So he pulled one off and on the rim behind the brake drum was 80PSI, First thought, I'm screwed. but I ordered them at 6:30 P.M. pacific time on Friday night and they are back east so they were closed until tomorrow 6:00 A.M So I sent an e-mail telling them I need to cancel my order. So now I need to find the next best tire out there for my 80 PSI aluminum rims, Are start shopping for different rims. Any thoughts?

FYI According to the Sailun Tire information Article#5540992 ST235/85R16 129/125L

You are good to 3640# each tire at 80PSI for the E tires.
Maybe you should keep the order active. Sailun does not say you have to run them at the max 110PSI.

Mel B.
06-25-2017, 03:24 PM
FYI According to the Sailun Tire information Article#5540992 ST235/85R16 129/125L

You are good to 3640# each tire at 80PSI for the E tires.
Maybe you should keep the order active. Sailun does not say you have to run them at the max 110PSI.

I was Just looking on line at prices on new aluminum rims and they said that the dot law determins the PSI of the rim. And they had 3 choices of valve stems for 80 to 110PSI.
I'm thinking if the tire say's 110 PSI then it should be run at 110 PSI???
I really want the Sailuns I'll never be maxed out on that much load wieght.

prndl
06-25-2017, 04:28 PM
I was Just looking on line at prices on new aluminum rims and they said that the dot law determins the PSI of the rim. And they had 3 choices of valve stems for 80 to 110PSI.
I'm thinking if the tire say's 110 PSI then it should be run at 110 PSI???
I really want the Sailuns I'll never be maxed out on that much load wieght.

No you don't have to run the tire at the maximum pressure.
If you want to run them at 110PSI then you need different rims.
You can run them at 80 on your rims. You just can't exceed the load limit of 3640# per tire.

Mel B.
06-25-2017, 05:55 PM
Yeah lots of choices. My wife and I just got home from our friends, 4 year old duaghters funeral. (Born with a rare blood dis-order) Suddenly things like tires don't seem to important.

mlh
06-25-2017, 07:20 PM
For maximum load carrying capacity they must be run at max pressure but it's perfectly OK to run them at a lesser pressure they just don't have as much load carrying capacity.
Lynwood

CaptnJohn
06-25-2017, 11:27 PM
John, thank you for being a Sailun customer. Inregards to your inquiry, I am assuming the weight you provided was fully loadedand that you have two axles (4 tires).
The math works out to 3500 lbs./tire. I have attachedthe load and inflation table for ST tires. You will see that at 80 psi,the tire will carry 3640 lbs./tire. So, you can go as low as 80psi. If you want to build some safety in, you can run your tires at 85 or90 psi. The issue with putting too much air is you will find your trailermay “bounce” a little going down the road. You may have to experiment alittle to find the optimal pressure.

You will see the chart only shows up to a 10 ply (“E”) ratedtire. For each 5 psi increase in air pressure, you can carry anadditional 120 lbs. of weight/tire. up to 110 psi.

Hope this helps. Safe travels.

Al Eagleson‘ACE’
Director, Commercial TruckProducts
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Mel B.
06-26-2017, 11:29 AM
So I talked to a guy at simple tire, they canceled my order and his recomendation is this
HI RUN JK42 TRAILER ST235/85R-16

I never thought buying a good set of tires would be so difficult.

oceandansar
06-26-2017, 11:35 AM
I put them on mine a couple months ago 640. out the door. By the way my wife has never questioned me about spending money on things that keep us safe she knows with many years and miles under our belt we have only been stranded on the side of the road one time.

Mel B.
06-26-2017, 11:42 AM
I put them on mine a couple months ago 640. out the door. By the way my wife has never questioned me about spending money on things that keep us safe she knows with many years and miles under our belt we have only been stranded on the side of the road one time.

So you like them, thats one I couldn't find a review. They quoted me $408.89 to my house. And my wife is the same way, I was just making a joke. She knows if there needed I'm buying them and that we need them

prndl
06-26-2017, 01:47 PM
Sorry you cancelled your Sailun's. You would have been happy.
Here is the chart FYI.

awheeler
06-26-2017, 01:54 PM
Yeah, they just think we're trying to spend more $$$ on the latest and greatest.

I am a wife and I don't think that at all! In fact, I am the one who does all the research and made the decision to change out the tires. :whistling:

Ann

Mel B.
06-26-2017, 03:49 PM
I am a wife and I don't think that at all! In fact, I am the one who does all the research and made the decision to change out the tires. :whistling:

Ann

Your right I'm sorry, I would be nowhere in life or the RV without my wife. I really was kidding.

oceandansar
06-26-2017, 04:50 PM
They are a serious tire and I have put a few miles on them so far. We are leaving for the panhandle Friday morning. The best thing I can say about them is peace of mind knowing they are good tires.

Mel B.
06-26-2017, 06:50 PM
Well the price is right 4 tires for $410 plus Mount and Balance

oceandansar
06-27-2017, 12:45 PM
410. is an awesome price I would buy 5 so I have the spare for that price. they are good tires but you never know when you might run over something.

Mel B.
07-09-2017, 08:47 AM
Sorry you cancelled your Sailun's. You would have been happy.
Here is the chart FYI.

Well me too! so I'm having saluns installed this coming wendsday. I tried ordering again on simple tire price went up about $65 so I called Big-O in healdsburg Ca. It's amazing how the price quotes change when talking to a different sales person. 4 Sailuns 235/85R/16 mounted balanced $760 out the door, and I'll run about 85 PSI Were leaving next month for our property on the Canada border and I'll feel a lot better with these even if not run at 110 PSI.
Thanks for all your help.

wptrip
07-09-2017, 09:54 AM
Mel, glad to see you get the tires you wanted. I finally ordered mine from Simple Tire and had them mounted and balanced at NTB for $80, 654 total. When they tried balancing with 110 psi they kept adding and removing weights until he told me he was going to use balancing beads. He put 6.5 oz in each tire and seems to be alright. Time will tell. Good luck with your and safe travels.

prndl
07-09-2017, 10:37 AM
Mel B, we're going into Canada early August. Heard a lot of stories about grief from border agents both coming and going. Are they as bad as I have heard? You can PM reply, don't want to hijack this thread.

CaptnJohn
07-09-2017, 10:38 AM
Well me too! so I'm having saluns installed this coming wendsday. I tried ordering again on simple tire price went up about $65 so I called Big-O in healdsburg Ca. It's amazing how the price quotes change when talking to a different sales person. 4 Sailuns 235/85R/16 mounted balanced $760 out the door, and I'll run about 85 PSI Were leaving next month for our property on the Canada border and I'll feel a lot better with these even if not run at 110 PSI.
Thanks for all your help.

As you plan to run under 110 psi the following from Sailun may be of interest;
John, thank you for being a Sailun customer. In regards to your inquiry, I am assuming the weight you provided was fully loaded and that you have two axles (4 tires).
The math works out to 3500 lbs./tire. I have attached the load and inflation table for ST tires. You will see that at 80 psi, the tire will carry 3640 lbs./tire. So, you can go as low as 80 psi. If you want to build some safety in, you can run your tires at 85 or 90 psi. The issue with putting too much air is you will find your trailer may “bounce” a little going down the road. You may have to experiment a little to find the optimal pressure.

You will see the chart only shows up to a 10 ply (“E”) rated tire. For each 5 psi increase in air pressure, you can carry an additional 120 lbs. of weight/tire. up to 110 psi.

Hope this helps. Safe travels.

waynemoore
07-09-2017, 12:56 PM
The balancing problems you had was likely caused by trying to balance using a hub centric balance as aposed to a lug centric balancing system. A common problem with tire shops. After market rims (all RV rims) need lug centric balancing.

wptrip
07-09-2017, 05:50 PM
Thanks for the info about the hub and lug centric balancing systems. I'm going to roll with the beads for now and see how that works out.

Mel B.
07-10-2017, 09:02 PM
Mel B, we're going into Canada early August. Heard a lot of stories about grief from border agents both coming and going. Are they as bad as I have heard? You can PM reply, don't want to hijack this thread.

We've had our property since 1992, bought it for next to nothing. We just last year started working on the property. And It's sad to say that I have looked at the border crossing so many times, but I've never crossed. We shop int Oriville Wa. 35 miles west of our property. I will say that Okanogan County is so big and so much wild country. That on the few times we needed the law for trespassers or a squatter. The border patrol is one of the first agencys to show up, and are very helpful. Every year I say I'm crossing this year but it's 1000 miles one way and when we get there it's so peiceful, we don't want to leave. But nieghbors go and I never hear any complaints/
Mel

Mel B.
07-12-2017, 01:47 PM
So I got the tires on this A.M. inflated to 85 PSI only drove about 7 miles home from Big-O but it seemed like the coach was swaying a little more, I was driving about 58 MPH on the HWY. I'll have to go out for another drive. They were able to balance them easy. One tire took more wieght then the others, the guy said he never put that much wieght on a wheel before. Tthe manager tried to sell me a $340 bearing repack job, that in his words "you should repack them everytime you put new tires on. This from the same guy that when I pulled in there small parking lot said you said you were putting the tires on an RV. I said what do you think this is? He said no an RV is something you drive. I said if that were the case then you as a tire expert would be selling me TRAILER tirers for a MOTORHOME. I'm just glad there on. Just ordered a pathway X2 satellite antenna from amazon, now were just counting the days before heading north to our Property.

waynemoore
07-13-2017, 04:07 PM
First I would never leave my rig with that moron. All RV trailers have after market wheels and must be balanced using the lug centric method. OEM wheels on cars and trucks use hub centric balancing.