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OntMont
11-29-2004, 02:34 PM
For the first time on our current trip south, I noticed Diesel at a price below $2.00. It was $1.99.9 at a service station in Gulf Shores, AL today. Anybody else noticing a drop in prices?

Glenn and Lorraine
11-29-2004, 02:55 PM
$2.17 down to 2.11 in Pinellas Park

stiles watson
11-29-2004, 05:01 PM
With a Wally shopping card (which gave me a .03 discount) I got it for $1.90.9 at Murphy's in Alvin, Texas yeaterday. Saw a sign for $1.93, another for $1.96, but most are $1.99 or more around Houston.

Montana Sky
11-29-2004, 06:15 PM
$2.37 up here in Spokane, WA. Dont think it will be going down any time soon.

faeb and genb
11-29-2004, 10:49 PM
It is 1 99.9 in Madisonville down from 217.9
Gene

prariepoodle
11-30-2004, 12:17 AM
$2.59 Down to $2.25.9 In Elko Nevada

foggyb
11-30-2004, 12:46 AM
$2.23.9 for the last month and holding. Heading south on Dec. 28th to find lower prices. Dan[8D]

Gene Chaltry
11-30-2004, 09:24 AM
2.19.9 in Northeast Wisconsin. 2.08.9 in Upper Michigan

Chester
11-30-2004, 12:19 PM
Hi John, hope you are enjoying the weather. Back home here in Ontario diesel is going for 79.9/liter with gas around 74.9. Sounds like you have a good deal down there.

Montana_1683
11-30-2004, 01:31 PM
Diesel is $2.12 -2.15 in our area. Cheaper in the KC,Mo area. Will need to fill up within the next couple days. Since not traveling, a tank lasts about 4 weeks.

sreigle
11-30-2004, 03:35 PM
In Independence, MO, it's UP over last week. Last week was 1.91.9. Now it's 1.97.9. Still better than on the other side of town, as gimmy2001 stated. By the way, gimmy2001, even though not traveling at the moment we're still doing too many miles. 4,000 in the first five weeks on this truck. A tank of diesel is lasting just two to four days or so.

Glass Guy
12-01-2004, 03:34 AM
How else are you going to break in that new truck, you need to get some miles on it before you head south,what kind of fuel milage are you getting with the 6.0. Roman

sreigle
12-01-2004, 05:14 AM
Hi Roman,

The early returns make me think this 6.0 will do a little better even than our '03 6.0 even though this truck is about 800 lbs heavier. I'm basing that just on early mileage of the two trucks. These numbers are from the trip computer that gives a continual readout of mpg since last hitting the reset button.

on summer diesel --

Highway, solo, 70-75mph. Have made several trips to my folks', a 240 mile roundtrip. Mostly freeway with some city plus freeway through downtown Kansas City. First trip I got 17.4 mpg. Most recent trip to the folks' place, using summer diesel, I got 18.4. So it's improving. This whole trip is rolling hills, by the way.

Mixed city streets and city freeway. 16.0 - 17.5 depending on traffic and speed. Most common is about 16.5 so far.

Pure city streets. Haven't done a full tank of this but the computer shows about 15-16. A lot depends on how much time I spend sitting at lights and in traffic.

Winter diesel - made a trip to the folks' yesterday with a load of winter diesel. Ran most of the trip at 75 mph and got just 16.8 mpg. I was a little disappointed until I realized I was using winter diesel. That includes about 4 miles of city streets to get to the freeway plus around the town where my folks live.

Searchers
12-01-2004, 10:02 AM
Steve,

Have you calculated your mileage the old fashioned way for comparison to the computer readout? I read somewhere that the computer usually gives a more optimistic reading.

I've been drooling over the new Ford but my current one only has 61,000 on the clock. I need to take some measurements also as I think the bed rail height is a couple of inches higher. The Monty sits level now but only has 5" clearance.

sreigle
12-01-2004, 10:50 AM
Searchers, no, I've not calculated the old fashioned way on the new truck. I suppose I should just to verify the computer's reading although that will be hard to do without getting it exactly as full both before and after. Over time I guess it should work out. I heard someone say the computer is optimistic, too, but can't figure out how it could be unless it's intentionally programmed to be optimistic. It knows the miles traveled. I'd use the odometer, so that should be the same. It knows the fuel actually used. I'd find that by refilling the tank but would have to spread it over several tanks to have correct numbers. By all accounts I can think of the computer should be more accurate, unless a sensor is bad or something. Maybe I'm missing something but would think the computer would be more accurate. Maybe my computer (career) background is skewing my impressions.

On the prior truck with the 6.0 I always calculated it manually because it did not have the trip computer.

I suspect the bedrails are higher than your '95 but it's not been a problem for us. The hitch has some vertical adjustment as does the pinbox on the Montana. We have 7 inches clearance over the bedrails.

joe2speed
12-01-2004, 12:00 PM
In the Boston area the price runs between $2.25 to $2.35. Which is 60 cents more than heating oil which is basicly the same product.

Thunderman
12-02-2004, 04:02 AM
Diesel fuel in San Antonio as of 11/30/04, $1.90.
Getting better!

sreigle
12-02-2004, 07:57 AM
OK, somebody tell me why the prices are not coming down? When crude prices go up, fuel prices go up the same or next day. But oil prices have dropped more than 6 bucks per barrel and the diesel prices here went up two cents per gallon! Why?

Broome101
12-02-2004, 01:15 PM
Well Steve been gonme on business trip for while not able to get on. But think abnout it winter is coming, diesel fuel is related to kerosene and fuel oil. Which are both used for heating oil. Ever think about it diesel fuel is the least refined fuel there is but yet today it's the most expensive along with heating oil.

Montana_381
12-02-2004, 01:26 PM
quote:Originally posted by sreigle

OK, somebody tell me why the prices are not coming down? When crude prices go up, fuel prices go up the same or next day. But oil prices have dropped more than 6 bucks per barrel and the diesel prices here went up two cents per gallon! Why?
Because of the volume being delivered "Up North" to heat buildings and the fact that most of what's being offered for sale NOW was actually produced during the late Spring to early Fall.

Gasoline is what the refineries are cranking out right now - not diesel - and the pricing reflects it.

FWIW, for the benefit of those who don't already know them :) here are a few places to check current pricing:

http://www.flyingj.com/fuel/diesel_CF.cfm
http://www.loves.com
http://www.petrotruckstops.com/fuel_search.sstg?interstate=&state=&Submit=Submit&search_form=1&sort=
http://www.pilotcorp.com/Locations/Travel_Centers/Complete_Pricing_List.aspx
http://www.ripgriffin.com/fuel_prices.asp
http://www.tatravelcenters.com/ta/display_diesel_fuel_prices.phtml

Montana_1424
12-02-2004, 03:40 PM
it is 2.35 here in Syracuse, and it SUCKS. I hope this goes down by the summer, or else my trips are going to cost a lot more.

tnorfitz
12-10-2004, 05:25 AM
I found it for 1.77.9 on I-35 around Holt, MO, on Dec. 7th. It was the winterized blend also.

NJ Hillbilly
12-10-2004, 06:07 AM
We got a couple of stations at 1.99 and dropping.

Come on .99

John

lightningjack11
12-10-2004, 08:25 AM
215.9 here is Spring Hill FL.

Montana_2547
12-10-2004, 12:38 PM
1.92 here in Luling, LA at WalMart. Use their gift card and get another .03 off. The price has dropped twice in a week.

jerryb
12-10-2004, 02:09 PM
1.69 in Wyandote Ok. thats on US60 about 20 miles east of Mo. they also have a casino, but that costs real money.

ragdoll
12-11-2004, 06:21 PM
We are finally back down under the 2.25 here in Albuquerque. Out off Tramway and I-25, Indian Casino station it is 1.83, up here by us 1.89 - seems there for a while it was running the same as prem gas. Thank goodness for being stuck in our stick home and using the SUV instead of the truck :).

Safe travels and Merry Christmas!
Lorraine

Glenn and Lorraine
12-11-2004, 10:13 PM
Our 2 closest Flying Js
Dade City I-75 Exit 285 & SR52 1.939

Seffner I-4 & SR 579 Exit 10 2.059
Seffner is the Flying J that is just a few miles from the state fairgrounds where they will be holding the Tampa RV Supershow.
This Flying J is also part of the Lazy Days RV, Camping World and Rally Park complex. This whole complex is like an RV show in itself. I rarely go by without stopping.

And here in Largo diesel 2.099

Going down slowly BUT it is going down.

sreigle
12-12-2004, 04:23 PM
$1.799 for winteriezed diesel in Independence, MO, yesterday.

Imp
12-12-2004, 08:19 PM
$2.08 in Burlington, WA. It is a slow decline.
Myrna

Montana_1280
12-13-2004, 12:43 AM
1.97 to 2.09 here in central Virginia. Have seen as low as 1.93 at Flying J near Wytheville, Va. Has dropped about .05 in last month. Heading for Florida in January. Flying J site lists 1.93 to 2.06 in Florida. I have heard much higher.

sreigle
12-13-2004, 03:30 AM
Masonsand, the Walmart station in your area has diesel? I've been passing up the Walmart stations 'cause I never saw one with diesel. I'll start watching them more closely now.

Glenn and Lorraine
12-14-2004, 11:42 PM
YAAHOOO!!!! We are finally under 2 bucks a gallon. The Flying J at I-4 exit 10 near Tampa is $1.979 YAAHOOO!!!!
The Sunoco on 19 in St Pete just came down to 2.059. Things are beginning to be looking up (or should I say down).


Ain't it funny how these fuel prices work.
Just last spring, before I left Florida, I was thrilled if I could buy diesel below 1.48 a gallon and was so glad I wasn't driving a gasser and paying 1.65 a gallon. Now I'm ready to celebrate getting diesel for under 2 bucks.

Montana_31
12-15-2004, 12:15 AM
If you need to check fuel prices before you travel go to http://www.dieselboss.com/fuel.htm and click on the fuel stops to see who offers the best price along you route.

sreigle
12-15-2004, 12:56 AM
Excellent site. Thanks! It's also a good way to compare prices state to state for when traveling. Do I stop and fill up before hitting the state line or after? I'll make some notes when planning our routes.

padredw
12-15-2004, 01:17 AM
Steve, I almost always stop at the WalMart in Vernon, Texas on my way to Colorado to fill up with diesel. Many of the WalMarts in this area do have diesel, BUT ... not all, that's for sure.

sreigle
12-15-2004, 06:56 PM
Thanks, David. I wish they'd announce diesel prominently since we're often in areas we're unfamiliar with.

padredw
12-16-2004, 03:11 AM
And, I should have added, they do give a 3 cent per gallon discount WITH a WalMart Card. (which I do not have.)

sreigle
12-16-2004, 09:43 AM
Before we started fulltiming we used the walmart card to save a few cents per gallon at the walmart station. That one did not have diesel, though. And they don't have a sign advertising prices. When on the road, if they had signs out showing they have diesel I'd stop if we needed fuel. But they don't so we don't want to navigate the crowds just to find out they don't have diesel anyhow.

padredw
12-16-2004, 11:07 AM
Know what you mean, Steve. We've learned to try to see what's out there BEFORE we make the decision to 'turn in'. It's not like driving a sports car!

Jim
12-17-2004, 01:59 PM
We paid 192 at a Flying J just north of Bakersfield, CA., a few days ago. Here in Hemet, CA., it is around $2.15.

Montana_74
12-19-2004, 02:53 PM
We are in Scott Louisiana near Lafayette and the price ranges that are best are in the neighborhood of 1.85.9 and 1.89.9. When leaving Texas at the end of November, the price was near 2 dollar a gallon.

travel safe

Montana Sky
12-19-2004, 08:37 PM
The price of diesel in Spokane, WA has finally starting to fall. I paid $2.14 a gallon at the pump today. Last week it was $2.25 - $2.37 a gallon. Now if we can only get back to $1.01 a gallon it was last summer.

NJ Hillbilly
12-20-2004, 09:44 AM
We didn't get that low last year and we are only 50 mi from the refinery!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

John

Dennis and Carol
12-20-2004, 01:53 PM
Montana Sky, $1.859 at the Flying J in Post Falls, ID.

Thunderman
12-20-2004, 02:11 PM
As of last Friday, diesel was 1.77 at a local truck stop in New Braunfels, TX

sreigle
12-20-2004, 02:34 PM
Yesterday I paid $1.799 in Independence, MO, but unleaded regular at the same station is $1.569. Diesel used to be cheaper around here. What gives? And I know it's not the heating oil being used in the NE. They don't heat with oil around here and last winter diesel was cheaper than unleaded all winter. In fact, it always was cheaper than unleaded here until this past few months.

Montana Sky
12-20-2004, 10:28 PM
Dennis & Carol,
Thanks for the heads up on the Flying J in Post Falls. I will be heading there in the morning to fuel up again. That sure beats $2.15 around here. Thanks again.

Random Line
12-21-2004, 07:43 AM
When we left Okalahoma City area a week ago we were carrying 79 gallons purchased from Citgo station at Newalla at $1.67.9. going west to AZ raised the price about $.20.

News reports couple days ago said fuel price was dropping. Will check the Flying J on I-10 S. of Glendale and report in a day or so.

Dennis and Carol
12-21-2004, 11:15 AM
Montana Sky, here is an easy way to check their prices.

http://www.flyingj.com/fuel/diesel_CF.cfm

BTY we live in Liberty Lake.

Dennis and Carol

Montana Sky
12-21-2004, 08:22 PM
Dennis and Carol,
Thanks for the link. Now I have another added to the list of favorites. Looks like while the prices stay high over here I will be heading over to Post Falls for fuel until Spokane catches up with the price reductions. I am over on the south hill, and it is sure nice to meet fellow club members who are neighbors. I am sure I will see you on the roads this summer, are you going to the rv show in Jan? I will probably be there all weekend =) Thanks again,
Dave

rames14
12-28-2004, 03:44 AM
I don't understand the Diesel pricing issue. In Frankfort, Illinois the local BP station has regular for $1.79 and diesel is $2.39. Two miles north at Shell off of rt 45 and I80 its $2.07. A little further down the I-state, its $1.97. Someone is trying to get rich quick I think.

jh1802
12-28-2004, 04:55 PM
RON, I totally agree. I live in Belleville, IL within a 10 mile radiud diesel is 2.29 . go outside that radius it's2.10 . Go another 10 miles its 1.97 . It doesn't make sense. It's so inconsistant in such a small area!

sreigle
12-29-2004, 06:47 AM
I also wonder why there has been no outcry from the trucking industry about diesel being higher than gas now. I understand that situation in some parts of the country, where they use heating oil in the winter, but in much of the country diesel was never more than gas. But it sure is now. And not just a little.

jerryb
12-29-2004, 02:07 PM
Feds tax diesel higher, most states do also, truckers are not complaining much because there is a lot of freight and they get the fuel sur-charge added to their rate

Sunseekers
12-29-2004, 03:59 PM
Mesa Az. Power Rd & Guadalupe - 2 miles South off Hwy 60 -
Today (12/29/04) paid $1.99.9 per gallon of diesel.
Have seen regular gas at $1.79.9 in this area.

jh1802
12-29-2004, 06:27 PM
Just filled up tonight in south St. Louis off interstate 255.Diesel was 179.9 . Just across the River in Illinois it 's 2.24. It used to be about .05 cheaper in MO than in IL. Now it's .45 cheaper! Regular unleaded is 1.65 in MO as apposed to 1.76 in IL. I don't understand the huge price differences on diesel in relatively close areas. I know where I will be going to fill up from now on. There were 3 other trucks with IL plates filling up at the same time I was.

patodonn
12-29-2004, 08:01 PM
Bakersfield, CA..on US 58, about 5 miles east of US 99, diesel is $1.98 at two different truck stops. US 99 and US 58 (major highways) prices are cheaper, in general, than downtown gas stations! I've seen diesel at 2.01 and 2.39 at two gas stations on opposite corners of the same street! Weird!!

OntMont
12-30-2004, 03:23 AM
Although I am sure that competition is a big factor, it is worth remembering that not all diesel is the same quality. The low sulphur diesel is more expensive than regular diesel. I worry a bit about diesel that is clearly priced lower than the going rate for diesel in the area. Yesterday I noticed that the Esso (Exxon) refinery near us, has a new construction project underway to build an "ultra low sulphur diesel" unit. I have seen Flying J trucks leaving that refinery heading east, so I assume they must be supplying the Flying J near Batavia NY.

The price here fell for a short while, but seems to be drifting up again. It was CDN$0.769/litre yesterday, that works out to about US$2.30/gal. (If I did the math right).

Bill and Ann
12-30-2004, 04:48 AM
Lowest price in the valley (McAllen, Tx) today is 1.859. Gasoline 1.359

sreigle
12-30-2004, 10:37 AM
OntMont, I was born in Batavia, NY. :) St. Jerome's hospital.

Chuck and Carol
01-01-2005, 12:38 PM
Yesterday we got gas in my car - $1.85. Noticed diesel price - $2.29. Wow what a difference. Hope trucks that take diesel get super milage.

Carol

Bill and Ann
01-02-2005, 04:32 AM
Carol: We get 14 pulling and 24 unhooked.

Chuck and Carol
01-02-2005, 05:07 AM
We don't get squat pulling or not pulling.:( Spend a lot of time "filling" up. But, Chuck has to have Chevies.

Carol

capn chris
01-02-2005, 10:40 AM
Drove to MD's Eastern Shore today and saw prices from $2.26-1.99 for diesel. Guess where I filled up?! gas regular price was around $1.61.

Montana_1424
01-02-2005, 10:51 AM
Diesel dropped to 2.24 in some places here, central NY, still not like it was in April, at 1.75

As for mileage, my truck is still not fully broken in, so I am still between 10-12 mpg driving, and the same for towing, it will be getting better tough, there are days now that I am gettin around 16 MPG

Glenn and Lorraine
01-02-2005, 11:08 AM
quote:Originally posted by Chuck and Carol

We don't get squat pulling or not pulling.:( Spend a lot of time "filling" up. But, Chuck has to have Chevies.

Carol


Carol, Gotta get it broke in. When we first got our Chevy with the Duramax our mileage was terrible. Lucky to get 9 mpg when towing and maybe 17 when not towing. Now that we have over 55,000 miles on it the MPG has increased considerably.
Unlike gas engines diesels, just like women and fine wine, actually improve with age.

Chuck and Carol
01-02-2005, 01:01 PM
I know I have improved with age :D Cheese improves with age too doesn't it????
I hope this truck gets better mileage. If not we will camp here in Central NY. Chuck wants to go to Turning Stone anyway.

Carol

sreigle
01-02-2005, 01:07 PM
Carol, hate to say it but big gas engines are notoriously thirsty. When we had the Ford V10 we averaged 8.2 towing and solo got 11 in town, 13-14 on the highway on a good day. The diesel does about 40 percent better, or at least the previous one did. Haven't towed with this one yet but solo it was doing even better than the prior one. Until they went to winter diesel, that is. Then we dropped about 2 mpg all around. Tuesday we'll hit the road so will see how it does towing. Like Glenn said, the previous one improved dramatically when it hit around 30k miles. This one has 6,700 so isn't even close to being broken in yet.

Native Tex
01-03-2005, 01:29 PM
I bought diesel for $1.74 on I-81 on 01 Jan 05. Also, saw regular gasoline for $1.65. I could not believe it. It was at a Shell station too. It brought back great ideas of days gone by.

Native Tex
01-03-2005, 01:33 PM
quote:Originally posted by Native Tex

I bought diesel for $1.74 on I-81 on 01 Jan 05. Also, saw regular gasoline for $1.65. I could not believe it. It was at a Shell station too. It brought back great ideas of days gone by.




BTW, my Ford is broken in about as good as it is going to get with 108K mile on it. I do good to get 12 pulling the new 3400 RL. That is only about .5 MPG less than the other the 03 rig. At any rate, with all the tinkering I have done to boost HP from the only Powerstroke, I am not complaining too much.

[8D]

Bill and Ann
01-06-2005, 10:25 AM
Jan 5 diesel is 1.799 and gasoline 1.599 in McAllen, Tx.

sreigle
01-09-2005, 04:26 AM
Jan 7, Perry, Ga, I-75 exit 136, Flash Foods station, I paid $1.729 for diesel. All the other stations around here are 1.799 and up. This station has truck diesel pump lanes and seems to do a good volume.

uhftx
01-17-2005, 03:15 AM
Here in Southern NH the local Mobil station had a price of 2.09 for the past Month or so. The price Just took a Jump to 2.13 this past week.
I don't understand when fuel $/barrell goes up the prices imediately reflect it. But when $/barrell goes down it takes a long / long time if ever for the consumer to see the results as reported on the nightly news.