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PolarBear88
03-27-2017, 03:53 PM
I know this is another tire post from what I've seen people comment, but I'm new and can't find what I'm looking for. I have a 2016 Montana 3710fl and the stock tires are crap. Can someone help push me in the right direction of a good solid tire. ST235/80R16 is the tire that's on there. Thank you.

Woodturner
03-27-2017, 04:14 PM
PolarBear I just put on a set of Good Year 614's from what I have read they are suppose to do the job. These tires are 14 ply and you can run them with 100psi I have a 2014 3285rl with factory aluminum rims rated for 110 psi. From my research Keystone started installing these rims in 2010. The rims are stamped on the inside on one of the spokes.
Hope this helps

PolarBear88
03-27-2017, 04:26 PM
Now the 614's will be an inch taller then the stock, that's not a problem? Also is that a G rating? I just pulled into Amarillo recently and noticed my stock China bomb is flat. Got lucky..... gonna change em all out. Just got on here for opinions to push me in the right direction. Thanks!

Dusters
03-27-2017, 04:38 PM
I just changed out all 5 tires on my 2016. Since you are up in the Northwest, I found Les Schwabs very convenient to order my S637 ST Sailuns through them. They priced out pretty close to others who had them shipped and then mounted. Les Schwab's was in close Proximity of the Tacoma RV for the annual warranty, who then hauled my trailer over there to get the tires installed. I kept the same size requirements (235/80/16) with a G (14 ply aspect) and they have a highway rating to 75 mph. They already look twice as solid as the Trailer Kings ever looked with a very solid sidewall at 60 lbs per tire.

Woodturner
03-27-2017, 04:40 PM
PolarBear I have a friend that runs the 614's on a 3400rl with no problems

Butch & Kathy
03-27-2017, 05:21 PM
I recently installed 5 Sailun S637 tires for about $860. Unfortunately this was after a cheap tire the factory installed came apart and damaged the fender and trim.

mlh
03-27-2017, 05:46 PM
The G614 or the S637s will be a excellent tire for your camper. Take your pick.
Lynwood

Golfmedik
03-27-2017, 05:57 PM
The G614 or the S637s will be a excellent tire for your camper. Take your pick.
Lynwood

I totally agree. The only difference would be that GY will pay for damages to your rig in the event of a blowout. You will have to decide if the extra money is worth that.

bigskyjimmy
03-27-2017, 06:43 PM
You live in Wash state as I do and Les Schwab in Sequim is where me and my buddy got our Geostar G574 14 ply G rated 110P.S.I Tires when I had my 2012 Monty and then When I bought my 2015 I had my dealer transfer them to replace the crap Trailer Kings and we have been running them four 4 years now and thousands of miles and love them and they are WAY less expensive than GY614 and just as good IMO AND they gave me 80 bucks a tire for my GY Marathons for a trade in my total bill came to 750 bucks:thumbsup:

Dam Worker
03-27-2017, 08:20 PM
I can say tires are a hot topic on here. I did quite a bit of research and decided on the Sailuns. The Goodyears have there support group and a good track record although they have had blowouts the manufacturer helped with repair costs. I have heard some good things about Geostars from a few members on here but don't have a whole lot of other information on them. I am pretty sure that any of the G-Series tires would be way better than the Trailer Kings. I still have a barely used set that I have not been able to sell on CL.

Tom Marty

catskiner
03-27-2017, 08:33 PM
GoodYear now makes a st trailer tire,the endurance,ckeck it out!

PolarBear88
03-27-2017, 10:20 PM
Thank you to all that replied.... I am in Amarillo TX right now, not back home in WA like I wish I was. Not sure what I can find in the area, but will look into your recommendations during my hunt tomorrow and see what's available. Be here for a few weeks and hit the road again. Thanks!

phillyg
03-28-2017, 07:01 AM
When I ordered Sailuns from simpletire.com some local installers popped up. Since you're in one location for a while perhaps that would work out for you.

hrl43
03-28-2017, 07:40 PM
Woodturner, I'm facing the exact same situation on a 2014 290RLT. Had a Marathon blowout w/damage. Want to be sure oem Janta rims are ok for going up to the heavier G rated Goodyears or Geostars. I cannot see on the wheel/rims where it says they will handle 110 psi. Presume much heavier tire is ok as well?

rmthelen
03-28-2017, 07:58 PM
Thank you to all that replied.... I am in Amarillo TX right now, not back home in WA like I wish I was. Not sure what I can find in the area, but will look into your recommendations during my hunt tomorrow and see what's available. Be here for a few weeks and hit the road again. Thanks!
Goodyear G 614's and say good-bye to tire worries.....Well worth the extra money in my opinion. Your rims are 110 psi. I run mine at 105 psi and they are wearing very well. Another plus to the G 614's is that they are regroovable, although I doubt many regroove them as they more than likely will be of the age to be replaced well before the tread needs to be regrooved.

Woodturner
03-29-2017, 06:36 AM
hrl43 as far as I know if your factory rims are rated for 110 psi they will be plainly marked on the back side of the rim. When you remove the wheel look on the spokes.

whiterose
03-29-2017, 09:34 AM
I had two blow outs within two miles with Trailer Kings on a 2015 Montana HC, ripped the bottom part of the side off. Shortly after I got the 2016 3790RD, I went with G614's. The removed Trailer Kings had a value; I put them up for sale at a camp site Camping show and received $40 each. Sold to a farmer, farmers typically travel short distances and have open trailers in dubious condition. After I sold them I had a builder wanting to buy, so there is a market for them.

PolarBear88
03-29-2017, 09:53 AM
I'm looking at the 614's online, can't cry about price when you look at the value of the trailer! I just need to make sure my rims are rated as soon as it stops dumping rain! The only size difference would be the 1" increase in height, correct? And that shouldn't affect anything? Just double checking that all my ducks are in order before an online order. I'll be mounting these all myself

phillyg
03-29-2017, 10:20 AM
The 1" increase is not an issue. Will raise the whole rig 1/2". I doubt you would be able to tell.

PolarBear88
03-30-2017, 12:47 PM
1 more question I need answered asap please. I found the 614's in town. The tire guy said he's seen campers where they can't get both tires on due to rubbing eachother and some not. I'm ready to do this deal but would like to know if I need to be concerned with this. Anyone running these tires on my style camper?

Twopetes
03-30-2017, 01:01 PM
I got my Sailun's at National Tire and Battery. They ordered and installed. about $700 for 4 - mounted and balanced and I kept the trailer kings. My bro is using them on a utility trailer!


NTB is all across the country - not an advertisement, just had good luck there


The Sailun 235-85 X 16's are about 3/4 of an inch larger in diameter. So you loose about 3/4" between the tires - or so I found on the Monty 353 RL - Hard to find the 235-80X16 Sailun's. The slightly larger dia. was not an issue on the 5er. I have about 5 inches between them.

rmthelen
03-30-2017, 01:44 PM
Never heard of anyone having that issue on a Montana. Measure between your current tires and I believe that you will find that you have more than enough room for the additional 1 inch diameter, 1/2 inch radius tire.

PolarBear88
03-30-2017, 01:53 PM
Thanks rmthelen! I was at tire place and he made me doubt myself. Came home, measured, a good 6 1/2" between

rmthelen
03-30-2017, 02:38 PM
Looks like you are good to go Polar Bear. You won't regret spending the extra bucks for the G614's.

phillyg
03-30-2017, 03:21 PM
BTW, I have the same FW except for the residential fridge. I went with the 85 vice 80 aspect Sailuns and can't determine the tires are closer together without using a ruler.

Golfmedik
03-30-2017, 04:06 PM
I got my Sailun's at National Tire and Battery. They ordered and installed. about $700 for 4 - mounted and balanced and I kept the trailer kings. My bro is using them on a utility trailer!


NTB is all across the country - not an advertisement, just had good luck there


The Sailun 235-85 X 16's are about 3/4 of an inch larger in diameter. So you loose about 3/4" between the tires - or so I found on the Monty 353 RL - Hard to find the 235-80X16 Sailun's. The slightly larger dia. was not an issue on the 5er. I have about 5 inches between them.

My partner ordered hers from NTB as well. Very good prices.

PSFORD99
03-30-2017, 05:00 PM
I got my Sailun's at National Tire and Battery. They ordered and installed. about $700 for 4 - mounted and balanced and I kept the trailer kings. My bro is using them on a utility trailer!


NTB is all across the country - not an advertisement, just had good luck there


The Sailun 235-85 X 16's are about 3/4 of an inch larger in diameter. So you loose about 3/4" between the tires - or so I found on the Monty 353 RL - Hard to find the 235-80X16 Sailun's. The slightly larger dia. was not an issue on the 5er. I have about 5 inches between them.


Also Big O has great prices on Sailun, they are a dealer. I was quoted $635.00 out the door mounted, balanced, tax the whole works Got a price match closer to home from Tire Pro., and actual price out the door was $635.01 :)

Could not find a better price anywhere, cheaper online, but after mounting, and balancing they were more money. I have never bought tires online, but all SimpleTire could guarantee was that a tire will be less then three years old.

PolarBear88
03-30-2017, 05:08 PM
Yeah I couldn't find any good deals here in Amarillo area so I'm paying more then I would at home for sure. Did some online searching and nothing seemed great. So biting the bullet and forking out the cash! At least I'll have peace of mind when I leave here.

whiterose
03-31-2017, 09:28 AM
I don't believe you have to be specific to someone running your style of camper, you will find that most of the big Montana's use the same Lippert frame with the same axle spacing. (My 3790RD has a different frame, but I don't believe the axle spacing will differ from yours). Mine measures 36" and with the 614's I have 5.5" between the tires. I accept that under certain driving conditions the wheels can move closer together, but I can't see 5.5".

The standard '80' metric tires are radially 11.75mm (0.46") smaller than the '85' Goodyears, so fitting GY's will move your tire treads less than an inch closer together.

With respect to pressure, the GY's are good for 110 psi, but you don't need to run anywhere near so high. My trailer axle weight is 12,100lb, so I have 3,025lb at each wheel. I usually run at 95psi, but from the GY load/inflation chart the recommended minimum for 3,042lb is 80 psi. (3,170 is 85, 3,300 is 90, 3,415 is 95, 3,550 is 100, 3,675 is 105 and 3,750 is 110).

PSFORD99
03-31-2017, 10:28 AM
1 more question I need answered asap please. I found the 614's in town. The tire guy said he's seen campers where they can't get both tires on due to rubbing eachother and some not. I'm ready to do this deal but would like to know if I need to be concerned with this. Anyone running these tires on my style camper?


You are going to lose an inch, you should have plenty of clearance. Measure what you got now. Many are running that tire or the Sailuns on your type of camper. I have run both with no clearance problems

PSFORD99
03-31-2017, 10:38 AM
I don't believe you have to be specific to someone running your style of camper, you will find that most of the big Montana's use the same Lippert frame with the same axle spacing. (My 3790RD has a different frame, but I don't believe the axle spacing will differ from yours). Mine measures 36" and with the 614's I have 5.5" between the tires. I accept that under certain driving conditions the wheels can move closer together, but I can't see 5.5".

The standard '80' metric tires are radially 11.75mm (0.46") smaller than the '85' Goodyears, so fitting GY's will move your tire treads less than an inch closer together.

With respect to pressure, the GY's are good for 110 psi, but you don't need to run anywhere near so high. My trailer axle weight is 12,100lb, so I have 3,025lb at each wheel. I usually run at 95psi, but from the GY load/inflation chart the recommended minimum for 3,042lb is 80 psi. (3,170 is 85, 3,300 is 90, 3,415 is 95, 3,550 is 100, 3,675 is 105 and 3,750 is 110).


Most 235/80/16's are 30.8 235/85/16 are 31.7 going to lose .9 inches between , close enough, lets just call it 1 inch to simplify things.

Kenw
04-05-2017, 09:00 PM
I just purchased 5 tires from Simple Tire. Great customer service AND they were the only ones that I contacted that would tell me the manufacturers codes on the tires. I needed to purchase them and Sara told me that she would "hold" the order and call the warehouse. One hour she called me back and told me that they were only 12 weeks old-SOLD!

PSFORD99
04-06-2017, 08:22 AM
I just purchased 5 tires from Simple Tire. Great customer service AND they were the only ones that I contacted that would tell me the manufacturers codes on the tires. I needed to purchase them and Sara told me that she would "hold" the order and call the warehouse. One hour she called me back and told me that they were only 12 weeks old-SOLD!


Evidently they have changed their policy, not only would they not check on the date of the tire, they could only guarantee a tire to be less then three years old.

Kind of glad they would not give me a date code at the time, I was actually able to buy them locally cheaper, and able to look at the dates on the tires.

mlh
04-06-2017, 11:44 AM
The last tires I bought was from Goodyear. The manager had the dates checked before he would let the warehouse send the to him. That's service!
Lynwood

PSFORD99
04-07-2017, 08:19 AM
The last tires I bought was from Goodyear. The manager had the dates checked before he would let the warehouse send the to him. That's service!
Lynwood


Same as the Sailuns I bought from Tire Pro, checked dates before getting them. I thought that was pretty good service also.

I wasn't to concerned, as popular as the Sailuns are becoming , they were going to be pretty fresh tires, and they were :)

Dusters
04-07-2017, 08:25 AM
My Sailuns were (5016/5116) during the Christmas time frame for us in this part of the world. Purchased date February 2017.

jcurtis934
04-07-2017, 06:45 PM
Look at your trailer to see how much distance is between the tire on front axle and tire oon back axle. My guess is many inches of clearance between them. Shouldn't be an issue.

Fireater99
04-08-2017, 09:29 AM
I am joining this world/discussion of purchasing tires. I have looked hard at purchasing the G614's. However a friend recommends the Maxxis ST235/80R16. Browsing the web, I can't seem to find very many negative reviews. Wanted to reach out to the forum members. Thanks in advance.

PSFORD99
04-08-2017, 10:01 AM
I am joining this world/discussion of purchasing tires. I have looked hard at purchasing the G614's. However a friend recommends the Maxxis ST235/80R16. Browsing the web, I can't seem to find very many negative reviews. Wanted to reach out to the forum members. Thanks in advance.


I have to ask why go an E rated tire or G614 when the Sailuns are available .The last tire I would get would be ANY E rated ST tire , assuming its the heavier Montana Fifth Wheel.

If a lighter fifth wheel I would still stay away from an E rated ST tire, and go with a quality LT tire, if the weight rating of the tire will match the rating needed for the fifth wheel

IMO the Sailun S637 is the best G rated tire on the market ,not only in performance , but value.

Again IMO why would anybody pay at least double for a Goodyear G614 over the Sailun S637. The goodyear is arguably an inferior tire to the Sailun, reviews will tell the story .

Fireater99
04-08-2017, 11:18 AM
Thanks. I have done little reasearch on the Sailun but seen it comes recommend throughout this forum. I have also seen the mixed reviews on LT vs ST. A couple tire guys I have spoken with say not to place LT on my rig. Yes it is considered a heavy fifth wheel.

PSFORD99
04-08-2017, 11:49 AM
Thanks. I have done little reasearch on the Sailun but seen it comes recommend throughout this forum. I have also seen the mixed reviews on LT vs ST. A couple tire guys I have spoken with say not to place LT on my rig. Yes it is considered a heavy fifth wheel.

Then it seems an easy choice IMO. Sailun would be my choice, and was . As said I would stay away from any E rated ST tire .

G rated tire is the right option provided you have the wheels rated for 110 psi

phillyg
04-08-2017, 01:46 PM
I've followed tire threads for years on this and other RV forums. I recall some negative posts about blowouts with Maxxis tires, but my take away is they're not as bad as most of the Chinese tires. I would have looked into Maxxis, but I'd already concluded Sailun was the best for me.

Fireater99
04-08-2017, 03:39 PM
Thank you.

Kenw
04-08-2017, 08:23 PM
Just a "newbie" comment but let me put it this way. You will spend 50-100K on a new Montana and then want to find a "great deal" on tires. It amazes me that I see comments like all over the universe LT-vs-ST, E-vs-G, 100-vs-300 dollar tires. Yes, I paid 300.00 per tire to replace my new Raineer tires that came with my Montana HC (2017 HC 370BR, 12960 GVW), 5 days after getting it. Call it insurance, call it peace of mind, call to not having to deal with major repairs at the absolute wrong time, call it sleeping at night, I don't care what you call it. There are virtually zero negative comments on the G 614, I wanted the best and I believe that that is what I got. Did I over pay by 100.00/tire, maybe. The old adage still applies to everything today, 'you get what you pay for". We will see in 5-10 years from now.

PSFORD99
04-09-2017, 08:50 AM
[QUOTE=Kenw;1060726]Just a "newbie" comment but let me put it this way. You will spend 50-100K on a new Montana and then want to find a "great deal" on tires. It amazes me that I see comments like all over the universe LT-vs-ST, E-vs-G, 100-vs-300 dollar tires. Yes, I paid 300.00 per tire to replace my new Raineer tires that came with my Montana HC (2017 HC 370BR, 12960 GVW), 5 days after getting it. Call it insurance, call it peace of mind, call to not having to deal with major repairs at the absolute wrong time, call it sleeping at night, I don't care what you call it. There are virtually zero negative comments on the G 614, I wanted the best and I believe that that is what I got. Did I over pay by 100.00/tire, maybe. The old adage still applies to everything today, 'you get what you pay for". We will see in 5-10 years from now.[/QUOTE

As far as negative comments, G614's have a better reputation now then they once did, they had a lot of issues. I bought mine in 2010 knowing that, but they were pretty much the only game in town. That is not the case now.

I sure have to disagree on G614 being the best, just reading reviews the Sailuns in the past 5 years have proven to be the better tire then the G614's ever were. This is not counting the countless reports on forums about them. But to each his own.

12960 GVWR ,and a G rated tire :confused: I would assume you have checked your wheels ,and they are rated for 110 psi ? Or did you have to replace your wheels ?

On edit, your Fifth is about 14K on GVWR, so the G rated tires do make more sense.

Kenw
04-09-2017, 10:55 AM
Yes, my rims are rated for 110psi. I can't disagree with the Sailuns resent reviews, they seem to be very good. The problem that I have is with Tredit (Sailuns manufacturer). My perception is that they put out (except Sailuns) a poor product and when the reviews pile up they simply change their name to something new. The Raineer tires that I replaced are on sale on E Bay for 99.00 new, delivered. When you reverse engineer that number Tredit is only putting in +-20.00US material and labor into the tire. The Sailuns are different and for the additional 50-75.00 per tire I decided on the G 614. Of course everyone's situation/preferences'/needs are different. Question: How was your experience with the 614's?

Carl n Susan
04-09-2017, 12:20 PM
<snip>
....The problem that I have is with Tredit (Sailuns manufacturer)...
</snip>

Tredit is just a distributor of tires, Fact is they peddle many brands of tires, Sailun was established in 2002 in the National Economic and Technological Development Zone in Qingdao, China. Now, Sailun sells over 30 million tires annually in over 50 countries worldwide. Tredit is one of many distributors in the world. In no way are they the manufacturer of Sailuns or any other brand they sell.
<snip>
...My perception is that they put out (except Sailuns) a poor product and when the reviews pile up they simply change their name to something new...
</snip> The producers of poor tire products is not Tredit. It is the various tire manufacturers who, utilizing the "Wal-Mart" philosophy (make it cheaper), produce low cost tires for the RV market. The RV market is equally culpable in this strategy as they are always looking to save a buck anywhere they can. Buying a tire for $70 is much more attractive than one costing $75 (or $85 or $105, etc.), To Montana's credit, they know the problems associated with cheap tires and have recently upgraded to Sailuns on the Montana (tough luck for the HC models). The fact that their competitors moved to Sailuns first may have been another motivator.

Montana has offered the G614s, an extra cost upgrade, for many years. Knowledgeable buyers would insist on them when buying as the standard tire was junk, Now the standard tire is a Sailun, which is an excellent choice.

PSFORD99
04-10-2017, 08:42 AM
Yes, my rims are rated for 110psi. I can't disagree with the Sailuns resent reviews, they seem to be very good. The problem that I have is with Tredit (Sailuns manufacturer). My perception is that they put out (except Sailuns) a poor product and when the reviews pile up they simply change their name to something new. The Raineer tires that I replaced are on sale on E Bay for 99.00 new, delivered. When you reverse engineer that number Tredit is only putting in +-20.00US material and labor into the tire. The Sailuns are different and for the additional 50-75.00 per tire I decided on the G 614. Of course everyone's situation/preferences'/needs are different. Question: How was your experience with the 614's?


Curious to where you bought your G614's ,and paid $210-235 per tire , that would have been the price if you paid $50-75 more then the cost of a Sailun tire. I paid $635.01 out the door for a set of four Sailun S637 ST 235/85/16 G rated. Last I checked the G614's were just double the price of the Sailun S637.

My experience with the G614's were okay, no problems, common problem with the Goodyears G614's beside a history of blowouts is there concave wear on both sides of the tire where they are smooth. Mine aged out before they got bad enough to have to be replaced. As said the G614's at the time were the only game in town when I bought them .Sailuns had not been out very long, and were unknown, certainly not the case now.

Richard Blackwell
04-16-2017, 09:26 PM
PolarBear88, both Woodturner and MLH suggestions are good choices. The G614's from Goodyear are a bit on the pricey side but well worth the extra $$. I've been through too many flat tires with previous "china bombs" to know pay a little more now and save paying a LOT more in the future, with more peace of mind travelling down the road makes it for me. Just sayin'.

Kenw
04-17-2017, 06:26 PM
There is no question that there is a lot of crap tires in the marketplace and rhetoric in the cloud but I think that we all generally agree (and may disagree only by very small degrees). Weather you purchase G-614's or Sailun's there far better than the other options available. It's similar to the Ford-vs-Chev discussion, and NO I do not want to go there!

PSFORD99
04-17-2017, 08:04 PM
There is no question that there is a lot of crap tires in the marketplace and rhetoric in the cloud but I think that we all generally agree (and may disagree only by very small degrees). Weather you purchase G-614's or Sailun's there far better than the other options available. It's similar to the Ford-vs-Chev discussion, and NO I do not want to go there!

No its Ford-vs-Ram, Chev isn't included :D

PolarBear88
04-24-2017, 02:03 AM
I got the G 614's on my rig and ready to hit the road in a couple days and see how they do. Not 100% on what pressure to run?

rohrmann
04-24-2017, 01:29 PM
Not sure what rig you have, but if it is heavy enough to use the G614's, run them at 110 psi cold, no less than 100 psi cold. We've been running them for over four years now, and have no reason to change, and have never had a failure or flat with about 40,000 miles on them.

mlh
04-24-2017, 05:47 PM
There is really no reason not to run them at max pressure.
Lynwood

PSFORD99
04-24-2017, 06:10 PM
There is really no reason not to run them at max pressure.
Lynwood


There is such a thing as inflation charts.

If 110 psi makes you feel better run 110, if you want to get technical weigh your axles, and go by a inflation chart .

prndl
04-24-2017, 08:27 PM
Curious to where you bought your G614's ,and paid $210-235 per tire , that would have been the price if you paid $50-75 more then the cost of a Sailun tire. I paid $635.01 out the door for a set of four Sailun S637 ST 235/85/16 G rated. Last I checked the G614's were just double the price of the Sailun S637.

My experience with the G614's were okay, no problems, common problem with the Goodyears G614's beside a history of blowouts is there concave wear on both sides of the tire where they are smooth. Mine aged out before they got bad enough to have to be replaced. As said the G614's at the time were the only game in town when I bought them .Sailuns had not been out very long, and were unknown, certainly not the case now.

Where did you pay $635.01 out the door for Sailun S637 ST 235/85/16?

PSFORD99
04-24-2017, 08:58 PM
The quote was from Big O . I got Tire Pro to match the price they were closer to home . This is in Utah

prndl
04-24-2017, 09:52 PM
The quote was from Big O . I got Tire Pro to match the price they were closer to home . This is in Utah

Thanks for the info. America's Tire, Big O etc have never heard of Sailun tires here in SoCal. I bought mine from Simple-tire.com and they were 720 shipped with CA tire fee.
Man o Man I love living in $outhern California.

mlh
04-25-2017, 06:38 AM
$outhern California
I love it.
Lynwood

PolarBear88
04-25-2017, 08:31 AM
I put them on my 3710 FL, 2016 Montana. Not able to weigh axles at this time. Just run at the 110 for now? Headed to ND in a couple days

craigb
04-29-2017, 11:51 AM
We spent the last year on thr road. First 1500 miles blewout three GY Marathons and replaced with Samson GL285T ST235/80R16. We put 5600 miles on these and barly had to add air. These are 14 ply rated 110psi tires.

RMon
04-30-2017, 12:23 PM
I regular trailer tires like they put on mobile home axles and ups trailers the rating is higher and get good wear I could not be happier

Beau2010
05-01-2017, 09:12 AM
Our '14 Montana came with GY Marathons. On our first trip out, we encountered another Montana owner who warned us repeatedly about the "China Bombs" or "Marabombs" as he called them. We check air pressure regularly and keep an eye on tread wear and never had a problem with them in nearly 30,000 miles. When we decided to replace them, the local Big O manager discovered two were in process of tread separation and he suggested Sailuns. Now, almost two years later they still look new and only time I have to add air is if there is a big temp drop. TPMS says they never warm up more than about 10-15 degrees above the ambient temp. Recently added a Sailun as the spare and will only need to buy three when these are ready for replacement. We put 8-10,000 miles on a year and expect these to be good for up to five years if tread wear so far is any indication.

jars
06-07-2017, 04:13 PM
I have had Michelin xps all steel radials on two Montana for 100000 miles no problems.

md-procouple
06-08-2017, 02:31 PM
We also went with Sailun's, after blowing 3 Maxims that came with the 5'er, they have been on now for 3 years, and still going strong.

Rick Allen
06-14-2017, 01:24 PM
I totally agree. The only difference would be that GY will pay for damages to your rig in the event of a blowout. You will have to decide if the extra money is worth that.

You are so right...I had a friend that had a Good Year tire blow out last year and they wrote him a check for 11 k to repair his rig.

md-procouple
06-14-2017, 01:34 PM
I know that Good Year has come out with a new Trailer tire, made here in the US. but have not heard anything about them good or bad. still too new.

Rick Allen
06-14-2017, 01:35 PM
I know that Good Year has come out with a new Trailer tire, made here in the US. but have not heard anything about them good or bad. still too new.

I heard that too, but don't think I would want to try them till they have a bit of a track record.

philleonard73
06-17-2017, 05:26 AM
I had the new Goodyear Endurance installed in March on my 357tht. A friend of mine owns a shop and when he was installing them we were both commenting about how much they resemble a LT tire vs a ST tire. Only have around a thousand miles on them but so far so good.

CaptnJohn
06-17-2017, 11:05 PM
My HC has a GVWR of 15,200 on 7000# axels. It arrived with Rainier LRE tires. Verified the wheels are rated to 110# so that saves a little as Sailun G rated installed before the 1st trip.

Mel B.
06-25-2017, 08:03 AM
Then it seems an easy choice IMO. Sailun would be my choice, and was . As said I would stay away from any E rated ST tire .

G rated tire is the right option provided you have the wheels rated for 110 psi

And if your wheels are rated 80 PSI?????

mlh
06-25-2017, 08:22 AM
And if your wheels are rated 80 PSI?????

G rated inflated to 80 pounds or a good LT anything but China Bombs. I had a 2955 I used Goodyear wranglers on it.
Lynwood

PSFORD99
06-25-2017, 08:52 AM
And if your wheels are rated 80 PSI?????


I would look hard at the new Goodyear Endurance.

Mel B.
06-25-2017, 09:12 AM
I would look hard at the new Goodyear Endurance.

Yes thats what I'm doing now.

Carl n Susan
06-25-2017, 09:36 AM
F.Y.I. Your 2004 2955 came stock with Tacoma (Cooper Tires) E rated LT tires. Montana used to use LT tires (until the bean counters found a cheaper alternative?). I myself would use any *GOOD* E rated LT tire.

CaptnJohn
06-25-2017, 05:15 PM
G rated inflated to 80 pounds or a good LT anything but China Bombs. I had a 2955 I used Goodyear wranglers on it.
Lynwood

Sailun stated their 637 can be inflated from 80 to 110. Seems like waste though. Paying GY to test tires is not exciting either. It will take about 5 years to know how good or bad Endurance will be. Until my 5ers went over 13,000 loaded I only used Carlisle LR E and had great luck.