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PSFORD99
02-05-2017, 04:19 AM
Bought new Sailun S637 ST235/85/16, had them mounted ,and balanced this past thursday.

Got a great price on them, $635.01 out the door on a set of four. Shopped around, and even Simpletire online were more money. I got quotes from the price I paid to 898.44, makes you wonder about the tire business.

These were built in the 37th week of 2016, so not a very old tire at all, going on 5 months old. It pays to shop around for these tires. My friend bought the same tires about 18 months ago, and the best price available,even with added mounting ,and balancing was online at Simpletire. His price from Simpltire at the time was about $720. Simpletire price now is 681.06 with shipping, cheaper now then 18 months ago.

Mine were bought locally from Tire Pro. It was actually a price match , they don't carry Sailuns, the actual quote was from Big O . Tire pro told me they got them from Big O, makes you wonder. Not complaining though.

WeBeFulltime
02-05-2017, 04:38 AM
And Tire Pro is located where?

Dam Worker
02-05-2017, 06:11 AM
Yes comparison shopping is usually a money saver. I am sure you will be happy with your new tires. Were they the exact same size or one size taller? I ended up getting the exact same size as the Trail King that came on the unit. Sure makes towing a lot more worry free, at least pertaining to tires.

Tom Marty

PSFORD99
02-05-2017, 08:32 AM
quote:Originally posted by WeBeFulltime

And Tire Pro is located where?



Bountiful, Utah.

The quote was from a Big O store in Salt Lake City. The 898.44 quote was also from a Big O store about 30 miles from the Salt Lake store ,we have several. That is quite a price difference then the first one. I actually called them back to make sure we were on the same page with that $635.00 quote, and he reassured me we were. I wanted to stay a little closer to home, so I gave Tire Pro a shot at matching, and they did.

PSFORD99
02-05-2017, 08:40 AM
quote:Originally posted by Dam Worker

Yes comparison shopping is usually a money saver. I am sure you will be happy with your new tires. Were they the exact same size or one size taller? I ended up getting the exact same size as the Trail King that came on the unit. Sure makes towing a lot more worry free, at least pertaining to tires.

Tom Marty



Tom, they are a size taller . My OEM were ST 235/80/16, I replaced them nearly seven years ago with the Goodyear G614. LT 235/85/16 which were taller

These Sailuns are ST 235/85/16, and actually an inch taller then the Goodyears, and I was told that when I was buying them. They fit okay.

Sounds like you went with the Sailun ST 235/80/16. I welcome that extra height with this new Ram pickup, sitting higher then my previous Superduty.

Kimo
02-06-2017, 11:36 AM
I looked at the specs for the Sailun S637 and could not find anything saying the sidewalls are steel like the G14s. Does anyone know if the Sailuns have steel sidewalls?

PSFORD99
02-06-2017, 02:23 PM
quote:Originally posted by Kimo

I looked at the specs for the Sailun S637 and could not find anything saying the sidewalls are steel like the G14s. Does anyone know if the Sailuns have steel sidewalls?



They have " All Steel Radial " on the side of the tire, would have to assume thats means they have steel sidewalls.

I think regardless, just the fact of reviews compared to the Goodyear, the Sailun is a no brainer , and the price difference .

Dusters
02-07-2017, 02:29 PM
There are two YouTube videos relating to the Sailun company and other one in December 216, from a guy that does a "Junk these Tires" comparison on replacing his Trailer Kings with a new set of S637's. Quite informative when describing the tread and steel radials. I did a search for Sailun S637.

kenneth e holman
02-07-2017, 05:32 PM
Sailuns deffinately an all steel radial. When you buy one stand on the sidewall and you will see just how stiff it is. The tire says steel sidewall on the side of the tire also.

Todd727
02-07-2017, 10:22 PM
Thought I read that the 85 was steel, but the 80 was not. Could've been old information.

SDVIKINGRON
02-08-2017, 03:16 AM
PSFORD99
I could not determine what trailer you put these on....am was already to drop the hammer on a set of the Sailon 235/85r/16 when it came to my attention they are bigger. I have the 2009 3400 model. It appears that the sidewall on this tire is the only size dimension difference adding .46" per tire. Installed what is the measurement between the 85r tires?
Thanks, Ron

PSFORD99
02-08-2017, 04:03 AM
quote:Originally posted by SDVIKINGRON

PSFORD99
I could not determine what trailer you put these on....am was already to drop the hammer on a set of the Sailon 235/85r/16 when it came to my attention they are bigger. I have the 2009 3400 model. It appears that the sidewall on this tire is the only size dimension difference adding .46" per tire. Installed what is the measurement between the 85r tires?
Thanks, Ron



I have the 2008 3400RL. My previous tires were the G614's, and they were a good inch shorter then the Sailuns in the same size 235/85/16

The Sailuns closed up the gap a good 1 inch, the gap now is 3*1/4 " between the tires.

Only concern I had is that there is an adjustment bolt in the wheel well that hangs down on both sides below the plastic fenders, they bothered me a bit. Why they are so long ,and hanging down there is anybodies guess, but they sure don't need that much adjustment. Never been touched in over 9 years. Anyway I took them out ,and cut them down ,so now they are up inside the plastic fenders. Other then that I have no concerns about clearance.

Not sure how close they can be together before it becomes critical, but over 3 inches shouldn't be an issue.

Preston & Terri
02-11-2017, 04:25 PM
Ron, I bought (4) GY's and (1) Sailun for the spare at Great Western Truck Center in Rapid City last spring. The Sailun is an 80R vs. 85R to match height of the GY's in event the spare is used. total $1619.00

oceandansar
02-13-2017, 05:18 PM
getting sailun's put on mine tomorrow 235-80-16. just had a new set of Michelins put on the truck today 970. bucks they were 3 years and 3 months old and had half the tread left but they were checked all over and looked terrible. I started really examining the Hercules on the monty as they are just over 3 years old and 2 looked like they were gonna blow the side walls out and one had a huge anurisim on the back side so I pulled the wheels off and drop them off in the morning 650. out the door. we are heading down to John Prince park in lake worth next week so I will have peace of mind with new rubber on everything.

Preston & Terri
02-13-2017, 06:22 PM
Did it look like this?

oceandansar
02-13-2017, 07:26 PM
Yes not quite that big though

PSFORD99
02-19-2017, 10:38 AM
Ron, I bought (4) GY's and (1) Sailun for the spare at Great Western Truck Center in Rapid City last spring. The Sailun is an 80R vs. 85R to match height of the GY's in event the spare is used. total $1619.00


I have seen the G614's for around $310-320 each, looks like they haven't gotten quite a bit more expensive.

I still have my original spare 235/80/16, never concerned me too much with the G614's using the spare. Now with these new Sailuns I have, they are probably 1.5-2" higher then the OEM . I need to drop it down, and check it out. Most likely I'll go buy another Sailun. I probably should of just got 5 of them to start with. Still would of put me under $800 for a set of 5

Dam Worker
02-19-2017, 04:31 PM
The weight difference is unbelievable between the Trailer King and the Sailun was unbelievable. I did not use a scale but I believe the weight of the Sailun tire alone was as much or more than the Trail King and rim together. No problems so far and I doubt I will have any with mine which I chose to get in the same size as my stock tires. OEM now on the Montana's if I remember correctly.

Tom Marty

Rick G
02-28-2017, 07:03 PM
You guys almost have me sold on the Sailun tires, but what about the height difference of the camper. We measured the height of ours, it's 13' 1", Keystone specs say 13' 5" so if I buy the Sailun tires does it raise the height of my camper by 2" because the Sailuns are 2" taller than the OEM tires? The G614's are only an inch taller so it adds 1" to the camper height? I'm comfortable going under 13' 5" underpasses with 13' 2" height (G614's), but I don't think I'd be comfortable with 13' 3". Thoughts?

Preston & Terri
02-28-2017, 07:24 PM
You only add half the amount of height difference, i.e. radius vs. diameter.

Rick G
02-28-2017, 07:36 PM
Thanks, I had no idea, that's why I'm on the forum so that folks can help steer me in the right direction. We started our camping experience in 2013 buying a 30' TT at an auction. After enjoying that for about 6 months we bought a Keystone TT and enjoyed that for about a year until we graduated to the 3711. Needless to say, I have lots to learn. Thanks for your help.

Mr Pachu
02-28-2017, 08:47 PM
I got this information from the different tires websites.

Sailun S637
235/80R/16G O.D. 30.8" Single Max. Load LBS.@PSI 4,080@110
235/85R/16G O.D. 31.7" Single Max. Load LBS.@PSI 4,080@110

Goodyear G614
235/85R/16G O.D. 30.7" Single Max. Load LBS.@PSI 3,750@110

Trailer King
235/80R/16E O.D.30.8" Single Max. Load LBS.@PSI 3,520@80

I replaced my 235/80R/16 Trailer Kings with the same size Sailun S637 as they had the same outside diameter.
Hopefully this will help you make your tire decisions when you're worried about height or the spacing between the tires.

PSFORD99
03-01-2017, 09:41 AM
I got this information from the different tires websites.

Sailun S637
235/80R/16G O.D. 30.8" Single Max. Load LBS.@PSI 4,080@110
235/85R/16G O.D. 31.7" Single Max. Load LBS.@PSI 4,080@110

Goodyear G614
235/85R/16G O.D. 30.7" Single Max. Load LBS.@PSI 3,750@110

Trailer King
235/80R/16E O.D.30.8" Single Max. Load LBS.@PSI 3,520@80

I replaced my 235/80R/16 Trailer Kings with the same size Sailun S637 as they had the same outside diameter.
Hopefully this will help you make your tire decisions when you're worried about height or the spacing between the tires.


I chose to go with the bigger tire 235/85/16 , to give me a little more height. No problem with clearance or width between the tires.

If someone does go with the Sailun 235/85/16 over the 235/80/16 OEM or the G614's they will close up the gap by 1 inch , and a 1/2 inch in height.

FYI the Sailun S637 ST 235/85/16 is actually 4400 lb rating @ 110 psi. according to the Sailun website.

On edit. Just looked at the Sailun website, and they do indeed list the ST 235/85/16 ,and the ST 235/80/16 @ 4080 lb rating @ 110 psi. Thats pretty interesting, just went out to verify my rating on my 235/85/16 and they are indeed rated at 4400 @ 110 psi . I knew that ,but it made me wonder.

It appears something has changed since I last looked at the website, and since my Sailuns were manufactured in Sept 2016

And yet on another edit : If you look hard enough you will see on a Sailun website the ST 235/85/16 listed as a S637T, and a rating of 4400 lbs @ 110 psi. Go figure, my tires do have the S637 on them but, not S637T ,but rated at 4400

Twopetes
03-01-2017, 12:54 PM
I put Sailuns on the Monty 353RL. Maybe to clear up some confusion. I could only find 236-85/16's in the S637 here in the states. I did find info on the 235-80/16's but only available in Canada. The weight different of the Sailuns compared to the Trailer Kings was surprising - much heavier. Per this chart the 85 series is .9 inches bigger in diameter or the trailer would stand less than 1/2" higher. So far I like em!


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Rick G
03-01-2017, 07:08 PM
Thanks guys for the help, if you couldn't tell from my original post, we're kind of new at this stuff so I don't know much a lot about campers, tires, tire heights, etc, so that's why I ask the stupid questions. Last night after seeing Mr. Pachu's post, I looked up the Sailun site and it was just as you guys have said, they have both the ST 235/80/16 and ST 235/85/16. Unfortunately, I'm not retired yet so when we get the camper out of storage in about a month it will be outfitted with 5 new Sailun ST 235/80/16 tires along with my new TM77 TPMS. Thanks again for the help.

Dusters
03-01-2017, 08:28 PM
My Rig is going to the shop for it's annual check up tomorrow, in order to keep the Lifetime Warranty in tacked for another year. Immediately afterwards, Sailuns S637 standard tire size (235/80/R16) will be installed on all 5 tires. I also just received the TM77 TPMS, to play with this weekend. All that's left is to get out and start travelling. All the different tire posts have been really helpful in getting to this point. Thanks

Rygar
03-03-2017, 10:31 PM
I'm currently looking at replacing the tires on my 2011 Montana fifth wheel. The Sailun website says they require a high capacity wheel. Anyone know if the wheels Montana uses are compatible?

Todd727
03-04-2017, 05:30 AM
Look on the back of the wheel and see if it is marked for 110 PSI.

Butch & Kathy
03-04-2017, 09:22 AM
I just got back from having 5 Sailuns installed, 235/80/16. $869. On my last trip I had one original tire with 2100 miles separate and tear up the fender and skirt. The tire tech said I had another on the other side separating, ready to come apart.

Rick G
03-04-2017, 09:36 AM
Scary, we've been really lucky to not have problems with trailer king tires to date, we probably have 4,500 miles on them. I should've joined the forum and read the posts back when we bought the camper (2015) and replaced the tires then. Hopefully, when we get our camper back from the dealer next month, we can make it to the tire installer without problems.

Charli
03-04-2017, 12:57 PM
Can someone provide more specifics as to where the "stamp" is on the back of the wheel. I crawled under the trailer to look and couldn't see anything.
We have a 2015 Mountaineer and not sure if the Mountaineers (lighter than full Montana's) come with the rims to handle the 110PSI.
We have run Trailer Kings for 20,000 miles and want to Upgrade the tires to Saluins this summer.

Charli
03-04-2017, 01:03 PM
You guys almost have me sold on the Sailun tires, but what about the height difference of the camper. We measured the height of ours, it's 13' 1", Keystone specs say 13' 5" so if I buy the Sailun tires does it raise the height of my camper by 2" because the Sailuns are 2" taller than the OEM tires? The G614's are only an inch taller so it adds 1" to the camper height? I'm comfortable going under 13' 5" underpasses with 13' 2" height (G614's), but I don't think I'd be comfortable with 13' 3". Thoughts?

One thing to keep in mind is that while the higher tires might raise the middle to back of the trailer in height the nose is still firmly hooked up to the truck whose height hasn't changed.
In our case we ride nose high with the highest point on the trailer being the front A/C. I'm thinking that even if I go with the higher tires the A/C height won't change and in fact the trailer should be more level.

phillyg
03-04-2017, 03:06 PM
Just paid $640.09 for Sailun 235/85R16 from Simple Tire shipped to an installer near me in SWFL. Installer quoted me $80 to mount and balance, all of which appears very reasonable. I'll try to weigh the TK tires and Sailuns, and post some photos showing measurements and flimsy TK sidewalls.

Rick G
03-04-2017, 06:31 PM
Charli, you're right, I didn't even consider the point of my measurement. I measured top of the front AC unit, it was 13' 1" so adding a 1/2" or even an inch at measurement above the wheels/tires won't make a bit of difference. Thanks for your help.

Todd727
03-04-2017, 06:57 PM
Can someone provide more specifics as to where the "stamp" is on the back of the wheel. I crawled under the trailer to look and couldn't see anything.
We have a 2015 Mountaineer and not sure if the Mountaineers (lighter than full Montana's) come with the rims to handle the 110PSI.
We have run Trailer Kings for 20,000 miles and want to Upgrade the tires to Saluins this summer.

Here is an example:

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Charli
03-04-2017, 07:03 PM
Thanks for location for PSI stamp. Will check in th morning

Kimo
03-04-2017, 08:45 PM
I visited Big O Tires this morning and they quoted $1200 for 5 (spare) S637T 235/85/16 ST. That was mounted, balanced, and installed. The question I had was, will the tire fit on a 6" wheel. Sailun specs say 6.5". The dealer told me that 6.5" was optimal but the tire can be mounted .5" either way with no problems. The only thing left is to find the PSI stamp on the wheels. So far, I have not found it. There is a bunch of other stamps like Max load 3040lbs but no max PSI.

rohrmann
03-04-2017, 09:07 PM
The max load on our wheels says 3750 lbs and 110 psi, so I'm thinking your wheels are not rated for the 110 psi tires.

Golfmedik
03-05-2017, 02:57 AM
I visited Big O Tires this morning and they quoted $1200 for 5 (spare) S637T 235/85/16 ST. That was mounted, balanced, and installed. The question I had was, will the tire fit on a 6" wheel. Sailun specs say 6.5". The dealer told me that 6.5" was optimal but the tire can be mounted .5" either way with no problems. The only thing left is to find the PSI stamp on the wheels. So far, I have not found it. There is a bunch of other stamps like Max load 3040lbs but no max PSI.

Check the Tredit Tire site here http://tredittire.com/wheels and see if they have your wheels and check the specs.

WeBeFulltime
03-05-2017, 05:02 AM
I visited Big O Tires this morning and they quoted $1200 for 5 (spare) S637T 235/85/16 ST. That was mounted, balanced, and installed. The question I had was, will the tire fit on a 6" wheel. Sailun specs say 6.5". The dealer told me that 6.5" was optimal but the tire can be mounted .5" either way with no problems. The only thing left is to find the PSI stamp on the wheels. So far, I have not found it. There is a bunch of other stamps like Max load 3040lbs but no max PSI.

I recommend you shop around. $1200 for 5 S637 Sailuns is WAY TOO MUCH!

Kimo
03-05-2017, 06:34 AM
Thank you for the info, looks like my wheels are 80 PSI. I would like the peace of mind of a G rated tire so it looks like I have to dig a little deeper for new wheels.

phillyg
03-05-2017, 08:22 AM
......The question I had was, will the tire fit on a 6" wheel. Sailun specs say 6.5". The dealer told me that 6.5" was optimal but the tire can be mounted .5" either way with no problems.......
I had the same question and left a voicemail with Sailun on Friday; no response. I'll call again tomorrow, but I ordered the tires already and hope my installer knows the answer because my wheels are definitely 6". There's a video on youtube showing someone stepping on an unmounted TK tire to show how flimsy the sidewalls are, and doing the same with a Sailun with barely any deflection. I think it's criminal that Keystone could use TK load range D tires on an up to 16,000lb FW.

PSFORD99
03-05-2017, 09:24 AM
I visited Big O Tires this morning and they quoted $1200 for 5 (spare) S637T 235/85/16 ST. That was mounted, balanced, and installed. The question I had was, will the tire fit on a 6" wheel. Sailun specs say 6.5". The dealer told me that 6.5" was optimal but the tire can be mounted .5" either way with no problems. The only thing left is to find the PSI stamp on the wheels. So far, I have not found it. There is a bunch of other stamps like Max load 3040lbs but no max PSI.


If it has 3040 max load, very much doubt they are rated for 110 psi. Sounds like 80 psi wheels.

As far as price, thats a terrible price quote from Big O. I was quoted 635.00 for a set of four, five would have been about 793.00. Thats here in the Salt Lake area.

It looks like you are headed for new wheels if you want to with a G rated tire.

Most wheels on these fifth wheels are 6", and are okay with the G rated tire .

If you have to go with new wheels, then get the 6.5 . If your present wheels were rated for 110 psi, they most likely would be rated for 3750, not 3040. Many put G rated tires on their OEM wheels rated for 110 psi that are the 6" wheel, I am one that does. I am on my second set of G rated tires on my OEM 6" wheels.

PSFORD99
03-05-2017, 09:38 AM
I had the same question and left a voicemail with Sailun on Friday; no response. I'll call again tomorrow, but I ordered the tires already and hope my installer knows the answer because my wheels are definitely 6". There's a video on youtube showing someone stepping on an unmounted TK tire to show how flimsy the sidewalls are, and doing the same with a Sailun with barely any deflection. I think it's criminal that Keystone could use TK load range D tires on an up to 16,000lb FW.


I doubt the TK tire is a D rated tire, it has to be a E rated , and most likely 3400-3500 lb rating for a 16K GVWR fifth wheel.

I agree those OEM E rated ST tires are crappy. I changed mine out at around 18 months old.

I would have no concern with a 6" wheel as long as it has the 110 psi rating

Kimo
03-05-2017, 11:48 AM
There is a store on EBay selling a set of 5 Sailuns (new) mounted on 16 X 6 Lynx aluminum wheels for $1485. With free shipping. Cost per Sailun breaks down to about $160. After subtracting wheels and mounting. If I can get the same deal on 16 X 6.5 wheels, it may be the way to go. So far, the lowest price I have run across is SimpleTire at $138. But shipping is $20. Per tire and then cost of mounting. Choices choices.....

Todd727
03-05-2017, 12:01 PM
I visited Big O Tires this morning and they quoted $1200 for 5 (spare) S637T 235/85/16 ST. That was mounted, balanced, and installed. The question I had was, will the tire fit on a 6" wheel. Sailun specs say 6.5". The dealer told me that 6.5" was optimal but the tire can be mounted .5" either way with no problems. The only thing left is to find the PSI stamp on the wheels. So far, I have not found it. There is a bunch of other stamps like Max load 3040lbs but no max PSI.

Way too much IMO for those tires. Since you need new wheels, I'd go to trailertiresandwheels.com (http://www.trailertiresandwheels.com/). You can get 5 tires AND new wheels for about $1600, free shipping.

The nice thing about that is, take the old wheels and tires, set them aside and when you trade or sell your trailer, put them back on so you keep your nice new wheels and tires. I'd call them and see if they mount and balance too. I believe they still do that as part of the deal.

Kimo
03-05-2017, 12:07 PM
Way too much IMO for those tires. Since you need new wheels, I'd go to trailertiresandwheels.com (http://www.trailertiresandwheels.com/). You can get 5 tires AND new wheels for about $1600, free shipping.

The nice thing about that is, take the old wheels and tires, set them aside and when you trade or sell your trailer, put them back on so you keep your nice new wheels and tires. I'd call them and see if they mount and balance too. I believe they still do that as part of the deal.
That's the seller on EBay that I was posting on above.

PSFORD99
03-05-2017, 12:34 PM
There is a store on EBay selling a set of 5 Sailuns (new) mounted on 16 X 6 Lynx aluminum wheels for $1485. With free shipping. Cost per Sailun breaks down to about $160. After subtracting wheels and mounting. If I can get the same deal on 16 X 6.5 wheels, it may be the way to go. So far, the lowest price I have run across is SimpleTire at $138. But shipping is $20. Per tire and then cost of mounting. Choices choices.....


Thats a good price, as said don't get hung up on the 6" wheels, they work fine.

Only issue I would have is how old are the tires, and they should be able to give you the date on them. If they are just a few months old, you should be set to go.

The only other way i'd go if you HAVE to have 6.5 wheels is call around locally to see if they can price match the tires . I wouldn't pay anymore then $795.00 out the door for 5 tires all mounted ,and balanced. That leaves about $690.00, or $138.00 ea for a set of five 6.5 wheels which is very doable .

My quote from Big O tires in Salt lake as said $635.00 out the door for a set of four. That was the store on South Temple in Salt Lake , give them a call ,and ask if their $635.00 out the door price is still good from a month ago . Then just get a price match, I had no problem getting another tire store to do that.

On edit telephone # for that Salt Lake store is 801-519-8241

Beau2010
03-05-2017, 12:46 PM
I agree. Local Big O mounted, balanced and installed ours and hauled off the old Marathons for $200 per tire. Not a great deal but lot better than $240.

PSFORD99
03-05-2017, 01:59 PM
I agree. Local Big O mounted, balanced and installed ours and hauled off the old Marathons for $200 per tire. Not a great deal but lot better than $240.

I like to see what I'm buying and check the date code

phillyg
03-05-2017, 02:40 PM
"I doubt the TK tire is a D rated tire, it has to be a E rated , and most likely 3400-3500 lb rating for a 16K GVWR fifth wheel."

Oops, typo. They're E-rated and they're still inadequate.

PSFORD99
03-05-2017, 02:52 PM
"I doubt the TK tire is a D rated tire, it has to be a E rated , and most likely 3400-3500 lb rating for a 16K GVWR fifth wheel."

Oops, typo. They're E-rated and they're still inadequate.


I agree

Todd727
03-06-2017, 04:09 AM
Thats a good price, as said don't get hung up on the 6" wheels, they work fine.



His wheels aren't high pressure though. That is why I said he needs new wheels to get the full benefit out of these tires.

BiigDaddy
03-06-2017, 05:18 AM
I like to see what I'm buying and check the date code

I agree completely on this! I ordered G164's from Discount Tire. When they came in I checked them prior to installation and they were over 2 years old!! No thank you. They found a 5 month old set and I rescheduled.

PSFORD99
03-06-2017, 08:35 AM
His wheels aren't high pressure though. That is why I said he needs new wheels to get the full benefit out of these tires.


I was referring to his indecision between the new set of tires and wheels on eBay with 6" rims or buying separately and getting 6.5" . If it's a good deal I wouldn't get hung up on them being 6".

I think I acknowledged the fact that he had 80 psi wheels ,but yes he needs the higher rated wheels for the G rated Sailun

Golfmedik
03-06-2017, 10:51 AM
If you go up to a 6.5" wheel with the Sailuns, they may rub the fender due to the tire being more robust and wider. We had a few around here to do just that. Others are running them on 6" wheels with no problem. It would be your choice. However the ones that had the rubbing, it's easily cured by taking either the wheel off, or removing the fender and grinding a little off the lip. No problems then except in sharp turning instances which usually doesn't damage the fender.

Mike117
03-06-2017, 01:06 PM
With all the tire stories got me concerned enough to make a change to the Saliun. Local Schwab dealer has them. Called Keystone for my 2014 HC and they said rims can handle the 110 PSI. Climbed under trailer to look for myself and can't see anything other than for trailer only and 3560 max load. May have number off. Guess I won't know until they pull the rim and current tires. Oh well want to have a little piece of mine, I hope.

Kimo
03-06-2017, 02:23 PM
I pulled the trigger on 5 late 2016 Sailun S637 ST tires and 16 X 6.5 wheels from Trailertiresandwheels.com. I did a little upgrade on the wheels because I got caught up in the pretty pictures but that's ok. Mounted, balanced, and shipped to the DWs business. Made a lot of calls and didn't really find any better price once it was all said and done. Peace of mind and a spare... $1450.

PSFORD99
03-07-2017, 04:35 PM
With all the tire stories got me concerned enough to make a change to the Saliun. Local Schwab dealer has them. Called Keystone for my 2014 HC and they said rims can handle the 110 PSI. Climbed under trailer to look for myself and can't see anything other than for trailer only and 3560 max load. May have number off. Guess I won't know until they pull the rim and current tires. Oh well want to have a little piece of mine, I hope.

I believe it should say either 3750 or 110 psi. That 3560 is an E rated wheel @ 80 psi.

Todd727
03-07-2017, 04:40 PM
I pulled the trigger on 5 late 2016 Sailun S637 ST tires and 16 X 6.5 wheels from Trailertiresandwheels.com. I did a little upgrade on the wheels because I got caught up in the pretty pictures but that's ok. Mounted, balanced, and shipped to the DWs business. Made a lot of calls and didn't really find any better price once it was all said and done. Peace of mind and a spare... $1450.

Very nice. Enjoy.

PSFORD99
03-07-2017, 04:45 PM
I pulled the trigger on 5 late 2016 Sailun S637 ST tires and 16 X 6.5 wheels from Trailertiresandwheels.com. I did a little upgrade on the wheels because I got caught up in the pretty pictures but that's ok. Mounted, balanced, and shipped to the DWs business. Made a lot of calls and didn't really find any better price once it was all said and done. Peace of mind and a spare... $1450.


IMO thats a great price, don't know how you could have done better.

Thats $290 per tire ,and wheel . I paid nearly $160 per tire, best price I could find, that was mounted ,and balanced out the door. That puts your wheel at about $130 ea, which is the going rate .

Mike117
03-07-2017, 08:03 PM
Thanks, wouldn't surprise me they gave me wrong info. Will get a better look when they pull the tire I guess. I hope I don't have to buy rims.

dhenry3
03-12-2017, 12:36 PM
Thank goodness for this Forum. Just had Saliun 637's installed before a up coming trim and wow what a difference. The Trail Kings are soft as mush. They should be outlawed from being installed on these heavier fivers. I think I saw somewhere that Keystone stopped putting the China Bombs on. I also noticed that the new Montana's have the sturdy steps that come to the ground. Maybe Keystone has gotten the message and is putting quality as number one again.

Dusters
03-12-2017, 08:27 PM
That's good to hear about the tires being a big difference. I'm still waiting for my Monty to get released from the dealer, for the annual warranty. They were suppose to take the wheels (5) over to a tire place and get the tires mounted with Sailuns 637 and put them back on after they pack the bearings. The Norcold Refrigerator was being looked at under warranty and turns out that the main fan was the cause of the Norcold to lock up on the control panel. So they are rewiring the rain sensor fan elsewhere.

kozzy
03-14-2017, 09:13 AM
at the show last week, every unit IO looked at from multiple manufactures, including the Montana, had Sailuns on them. I took pictures so I can get the right size when I order my replacements.

phillyg
03-14-2017, 09:28 AM
Well, Sailun never got back to me about the 6" wheel measurement, but my installer said they were fine. I was misquoted $20 a tire for install; it was $30. Plus, they couldnt get them to balance normally and needed the beads. Still, the $680 for the tires and total $220 install is still a great price for big piece of mind. Didn't take any photos but the TKs are very flimsy compared to the SUs.

PSFORD99
03-14-2017, 11:18 AM
Well, Sailun never got back to me about the 6" wheel measurement, but my installer said they were fine. I was misquoted $20 a tire for install; it was $30. Plus, they couldnt get them to balance normally and needed the beads. Still, the $680 for the tires and total $220 install is still a great price for big piece of mind. Didn't take any photos but the TKs are very flimsy compared to the SUs.


$220 install ? Wow, thats pretty steep for mounting, and balancing. Was quoted $70.00 for four mounted ,and balanced when I was considering buying online, but actually got them locally cheaper.

Carl n Susan
03-14-2017, 08:55 PM
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... they couldnt get them to balance normally and needed the beads....
</snip>
The aluminum rims on a Montana *HAVE*to be balanced using a Lug Centric adapter. If the tire guy used the standard hub centric balancer they use for automotive steel rims, they will have to apply a bunch of weight to make it seem balanced but as soon as the rim is back on the trailer it is *WAY OUT* of balance.

Kimo
03-16-2017, 08:37 PM
Just put the new Sailuns and wheels on my 3400. I may have one tire that is a little close to the fender on the drivers side rear but I will watch the travel to see if needs adjusted (the fender, not the tire). Very pleased so far.

Golfmedik
03-17-2017, 04:15 AM
Just put the new Sailuns and wheels on my 3400. I may have one tire that is a little close to the fender on the drivers side rear but I will watch the travel to see if needs adjusted (the fender, not the tire). Very pleased so far.

When we put Sailuns on my partner's rig, we had the same problem. So I took off the right rear wheel and took a small grinder to the fender in that area. Took off about a 1/4" and has been fine since.

phillyg
03-17-2017, 11:34 AM
They balanced them using the proper eight-lug adapter on the wheel, plus a fitting that centered the hub on the machine, which is what I think you're referring to.

Rick G
04-08-2017, 08:08 AM
The aluminum rims on a Montana *HAVE*to be balanced using a Lug Centric adapter. If the tire guy used the standard hub centric balancer they use for automotive steel rims, they will have to apply a bunch of weight to make it seem balanced but as soon as the rim is back on the trailer it is *WAY OUT* of balance.

I'm having a really difficult time locating a tire dealer near Springfield, IL that has the lug centric adapter for the aluminum wheels. Three dealers here in town informed me they don't have the adapter and even Camping World in Wentzville, Missouri informed me that don't have the adapter. Is anyone else having difficulty locating a service center that uses this adapter for wheels?

Rick G
04-12-2017, 06:54 PM
Finally, I found a tire dealer that has the lug centric adapter for their tire balancer. The company's name is Pomps Tire Service, they have several locations in the midwest and upper midwest. Saturday, my new Sailuns will be balanced properly. The link for the company is www.pompstire.com if anyone is interested.

jlb27537
04-28-2017, 05:35 PM
Just a bit of info for those with older wheels that are 80 psi rims.

Bridgestone Durvas R250 LT 235/85/16 tires are a all steel tire, weigh the same 59lbs as a Goodyear G614. They have the normal 3042 lb rating of a E rated tire, however have been on my '14 3150RL for 4 years.

Since they are LT tires, not ST tires, they do have a built in safety rating where ST tires do not and are not allowed on passenger vehicles.

Most Montana's, if not all, have 110psi wheels after about 2010 or so, look inside of the spoke and see what you have, if you have a older rig.

Back in '13 when I bought my 3150RL G614 were the only G recommended and I just did not want to spend the money. I am 100% happy with my Bridgestone tires, but today the Sailun do look like a good option for those needing a G tire.

PSFORD99
04-29-2017, 08:26 AM
Just a bit of info for those with older wheels that are 80 psi rims.

Bridgestone Durvas R250 LT 235/85/16 tires are a all steel tire, weigh the same 59lbs as a Goodyear G614. They have the normal 3042 lb rating of a E rated tire, however have been on my '14 3150RL for 4 years.

Since they are LT tires, not ST tires, they do have a built in safety rating where ST tires do not and are not allowed on passenger vehicles.

Most Montana's, if not all, have 110psi wheels after about 2010 or so, look inside of the spoke and see what you have, if you have a older rig.

Back in '13 when I bought my 3150RL G614 were the only G recommended and I just did not want to spend the money. I am 100% happy with my Bridgestone tires, but today the Sailun do look like a good option for those needing a G tire.


You are forgetting the new Goodyear Endurance.It is definitely a tire to be considered.

scottz
05-06-2017, 10:48 PM
Are the Sailin's considered good tires? Good reputation? Just wondering; they came standard on my Montana and Goodyear's (the build sheet did not say what model) were a $1793 option.

jlb27537
05-07-2017, 08:16 AM
Are the Sailin's considered good tires? Good reputation? Just wondering; they came standard on my Montana and Goodyear's (the build sheet did not say what model) were a $1793 option.

Yes..........

phillyg
05-07-2017, 08:25 AM
Are the Sailin's considered good tires? Good reputation?......

I have yet to see one complaint about the Sailun tires here or any other RV forum.

scottz
05-07-2017, 01:33 PM
Reassuring; thanks.

PSFORD99
05-13-2017, 08:55 AM
Reassuring; thanks.


IMHO they are the BEST G rated tires for fifth wheels, hands down.

beeje
05-26-2017, 05:36 AM
Just had the nearly 7 year old g614s replaced by new Sailun 235/85/16 s637s last week. Going to give them a try. Bought 5 at $146 ea + mounting and balancing. I told them about the adapter to balance. They said they had one and would use it but I have no idea if they did or not. Heading out now for there 180 mile maiden voyage.

Old_Salty
05-31-2017, 07:16 AM
Just returned from our trip south - Finger Lakes region of New York State to Disney World. Installed Sailuns prior to our trip. It was a noticeable difference on the handling from the GY Marathons. The rig felt more stable with less movement. Tires ran much cooler. Very happy we purchased the Sailuns!

Mike639
06-04-2017, 10:10 AM
Who carries the Sailun tires?

rohrmann
06-04-2017, 11:35 AM
Other than just calling around to your local tire shops, you can also do a search for sailun S637 RV tires online.

Texan
06-04-2017, 12:48 PM
Who carries the Sailun tires?

Contact simple tire.com.

richfaa
06-04-2017, 01:05 PM
Our G614,s that came OEM on our 13 3402 built in May of 2012 and purchased in June of 2102 are wearing very well are now 5 years old. We just had them inspected by Goodyear and they show no signs of dry rot cracking, etc. They have about 45K miles on them and with the Mor Ride IS system are wearing very evenly . However a new set of tires are in our near future and the Sailuns are our choice and 4 for a lot less than the above mentioned 1793 OEM

scottz
06-04-2017, 01:11 PM
My Big-O dealer said he could get them.

Beau2010
06-04-2017, 01:47 PM
Local Big O ordered ours; had them overnite. Don't know from where.

CaptnJohn
06-04-2017, 02:04 PM
Nearly every independent dealer will be able to order Sailuns.

Old_Salty
06-04-2017, 07:02 PM
I purchased from Simple Tire. Seemed to have the best price when combining shipping and the purchase. They are available from some dealers but not in my area.

PSFORD99
06-05-2017, 08:15 AM
Local Big O ordered ours; had them overnite. Don't know from where.

Big O carries them here in Utah. A different tire shop matched the Big O price, which was closer to home. Also the out the door price was cheaper then Simpletire, and did not have to mess with online ordering. And I was also able to see the date code on them ,something that can't be done ordering online .

richfaa
06-05-2017, 11:13 AM
Wal mart can order them and install them two day delivery.

DQDick
06-05-2017, 01:14 PM
I just traded my old tires for 5 new Sailuns. Paid way too much, but they threw in a 2017 3720 RL to go over them:D:D:rolleyes::socool:

Rick G
06-05-2017, 05:11 PM
I just traded my old tires for 5 new Sailuns. Paid way too much, but they threw in a 2017 3720 RL to go over them:D:D:rolleyes::socool:

Funny about throwing in the 3720 RL :lol:


If anyone is looking at buying from Simple Tire you may want to check their prices daily over a 2 - 4 week period. I experienced it first-hand that they change their prices quite often. When I began considering purchasing the Sailuns from them their price per tire was $136.99, since I wasn't ready to buy at the time, I waited about 2 weeks and checked again, the price had gone up to $154.99 each, I didn't buy. Another week passes by and I check again, they're $141.99, I bought them, then I happened to check the price a week later and they were $124.99.

Fireater99
06-06-2017, 07:55 PM
Purchased our about 6 weeks ago. Noticed a big difference between these and the standard tire that came on our rig. Also witnessed the price fluctuations as mentioned by Rick. We purchased ours for $140.00 each shipped to a tire shop. Verified the date before accepting the tires.

richfaa
06-07-2017, 10:06 AM
We have the G614's on the Big Sky now so we will have the proper rims and need the tires only. We have several Independent tire dealers in the area and they will order and install them no problem. Next year project.

Mel B.
06-24-2017, 06:25 PM
Wal mart can order them and install them two day delivery.
Yesterday Wal-Mart tire shop in Windsor Ca. said no they can't order them and never have.

700g
06-24-2017, 06:37 PM
I have a 2013 Mountaineer and the rims are stamped 110 psi

kozzy
08-30-2017, 09:42 AM
I just installed the new Saluins yesterday 748 for 4 here in NYS at Dunn Tire. they were 148 each, then the mounting and tax. Didn't think it was too bad, could have gotten them for 640 online, but then would have to 20 per tire for mounting. I was surprised to see MADE IN CHINA stamped on the side, isn't this a Canadian Company? I guess I just didn't realize they were made in china. I'm looking forward to the first trip with them this weekend, def weight a lot more

phillyg
08-30-2017, 09:56 AM
.......I was surprised to see MADE IN CHINA stamped on the side, isn't this a Canadian Company? I guess I just didn't realize they were made in china......

Yes, they are a Chinese company. While we have been irritated with much of the junk coming out of China, especially the cheap tires selected by American RV mfgrs., there are some good products made in China, particularly those made to ISO standards. I also installed Sailuns based on their reputation and complete lack of failure reports, but only time will tell if we've made the correct decision.

Lenny K
08-30-2017, 10:04 AM
kozzy if these tires were made in Canada or the USA you would not pay the price you did. I'm happy with the Sailun's.

PSFORD99
08-30-2017, 10:10 AM
Yes, they are a Chinese company. While we have been irritated with much of the junk coming out of China, especially the cheap tires selected by American RV mfgrs., there are some good products made in China, particularly those made to ISO standards. I also installed Sailuns based on their reputation and complete lack of failure reports, but only time will tell if we've made the correct decision.


IMO they have been out on the market way too long, and we would be seeing reports of issues if there were any. Again IMO they are the best G rated tire on the market today, they already in the past few years have a better reputation than the Goodyear G614's. Granted the G614's have improved.

I have run the G614's without issue, but to replace them today a person has to spend at least double for them over the Sailun's. Thats ridiculous , they are no better tire, and arguably inferior when reading the reviews.

Basically what you are paying for with the G614's is insurance, heck I don't need to spend more for insurance, I am up to my eyeballs in insurance premiums :)

Tk32112
09-01-2017, 10:59 AM
I have a Montana High County 353, 2017. I want to change the tires form the 10 ply that it came with to 14 ply. Does anyone know if the wheels on the 2017 are rated for the additional pressure? It's going form 80 lbs to 110 lbs?

Tk32112
09-01-2017, 11:01 AM
I have a Montana High Country 353 2017. I am changing the tires form the 10ply to 14 ply. Does anyone know if the wheels on the 2017 will handle the increase in pressure from 80 lbs to 110 lbs? Appreciate the help

Lenny K
09-01-2017, 11:19 AM
To see what psi rims you have crawl under your trailer and the psi is stamped on the rim. A visual is the only way to be sure.

phillyg
09-01-2017, 02:01 PM
I would not assume the trailer came with 110psi wheels. You can find the psi rating stamped or embossed on the backside of one of the wheel spokes. If you can't see it, jack one wheel and rotate it till you see it. Last resort is to take off the wheel for a closer inspection.

bshgto
09-01-2017, 02:22 PM
If you have 6 lugs at 80 psi on the sticker you have 80 PSI rims. If you 8 lugs at 80 PSI on the sticker you might have 110 PSI rims with 80 PSI load range E tires. The only way to find out is to check the stamp on the back of the rims as others have said, use a flashlight. I have the Sailuns, big difference in handling over the 80 PSI tires that came with my High Country.

CaptnJohn
09-01-2017, 06:30 PM
Take a picture and send it here. That is what I did about the wheels that came on my 2017 High Country.




John,


This wheel is rated for 110pSI


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Charli
09-01-2017, 06:32 PM
If you have 6 lugs at 80 psi on the sticker you have 80 PSI rims. If you 8 lugs at 80 PSI on the sticker you might have 110 PSI rims with 80 PSI load range E tires. The only way to find out is to check the stamp on the back of the rims as others have said, use a flashlight. I have the Sailuns, big difference in handling over the 80 PSI tires that came with my High Country.

I'm getting Sailun to replace my Trailer Kings but won't have it out on the road till November. Curious what kind of difference you experienced in the handling. Did you have them balanced. I don't think my Trailer Kings were balanced from the factory.

Mike117
09-01-2017, 08:23 PM
I have a HC 6 lug 80 PSI rim. Can't find a rim with 6 lug that will work. Les Schwab said I could run them at 80 PSI. From what others have told me I really don't need a G rated tire. I just like a piece of mind.

CaptnJohn
09-01-2017, 08:55 PM
I have a HC 6 lug 80 PSI rim. Can't find a rim with 6 lug that will work. Les Schwab said I could run them at 80 PSI. From what others have told me I really don't need a G rated tire. I just like a piece of mind.

Just check the weight of the Sailuns and step on the sidewall. That should convince you. Here is the reply from Sailun when I asked about them when I had a Cougar 5er;

John, thank you for being a Sailun customer. In regards to your inquiry, I am assuming the weight you provided was fully loaded and that you have two axles (4 tires).
The math works out to 3500 lbs./tire. I have attached the load and inflation table for ST tires. You will see that at 80 psi, the tire will carry 3640 lbs./tire. So, you can go as low as 80 psi. If you want to build some safety in, you can run your tires at 85 or 90 psi. The issue with putting too much air is you will find your trailer may ďbounceĒ a little going down the road. You may have to experiment a little to find the optimal pressure.

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Mike117
09-01-2017, 09:42 PM
Thanks and appreciate the education.

Texan
09-01-2017, 09:51 PM
I have a HC 6 lug 80 PSI rim. Can't find a rim with 6 lug that will work. Les Schwab said I could run them at 80 PSI. From what others have told me I really don't need a G rated tire. I just like a piece of mind.
If you want peace of mind then i would buy the michelin xps ribs. These are the best 10ply tire on the market and are all steel just as the sailun's are. I had a set of these on another trailer and they are every bit as tough as the sailuns and are just as heavy. The only difference i see is the ply rating and of course the michelins are more expensive.

PSFORD99
09-02-2017, 07:53 AM
If you want peace of mind then i would buy the michelin xps ribs. These are the best 10ply tire on the market and are all steel just as the sailun's are. I had a set of these on another trailer and they are every bit as tough as the sailuns and are just as heavy. The only difference i see is the ply rating and of course the michelins are more expensive.


I sure wouldn't discount the Goodyear Endurance, better weight rating then the Michelins, and so far they are getting good reviews. I believe not as expensive.

CaptnJohn
09-02-2017, 08:23 AM
I sure wouldn't discount the Goodyear Endurance, better weight rating then the Michelins, and so far they are getting good reviews. I believe not as expensive.

Just wondering why pay a premium to become a tire tester for GY when Sailun are available in 16".

PeteandJoan
09-02-2017, 08:49 AM
Just wondering why pay a premium to become a tire tester for GY when Sailun are available in 16".

X2. I would get the Saliuns and set my pressure at 80 and never look back. I don't have them but if I had those rims that is what I would do. When I had SOB with 80# rated rims a few years ago I had so many blow-outs, bubbles, separations...all kinds of tire failures with E rated tires. was advised not to install higher rated tire because of those rims. But if Saliun says it's ok thats what I would do. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

Lenny K
09-02-2017, 09:49 AM
X2. I would get the Saliuns and set my pressure at 80 and never look back. I don't have them but if I had those rims that is what I would do. When I had SOB with 80# rated rims a few years ago I had so many blow-outs, bubbles, separations...all kinds of tire failures with E rated tires. was advised not to install higher rated tire because of those rims. But if Saliun says it's ok thats what I would do. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

X3. Sailun is a heavy duty tire for a fair price.

bshgto
09-02-2017, 10:13 AM
[QUOTE=Mike117;1072778]I have a HC 6 lug 80 PSI rim. Can't find a rim with 6 lug that will work. Les Schwab said I could run them at 80 PSI. From what others have told me I really don't need a G rated tire. I just like a piece of mind.[/QUOTE

I don`t need the G tire either by unit weight, I just know the trailer tracks better with them on especially in corners with dips in the road or when being past by Celmont the renegade truck driver doing 80 MPH. It`s all in the side wall strength of the Sailuns. Just stand on the side wall of each and you`ll feel the difference not to mention the weight of the tire over the other. All the other name brand tires are whoooy compared to cost and service record of these tires.
I run mine at 90 PSI and in real heat they run up to 100 PSI from the use which is more than enough to hold up the camper in any condition.

bshgto
09-02-2017, 10:28 AM
Sendel Wheels has the 16X6 lug wheel rated at 110 PSI Model#T1566655BM. This is rated at 3200 LBS each. There are other heavy duty 6 lugs wheels out there just have to look.

christm
09-03-2017, 10:28 AM
Funny about throwing in the 3720 RL :lol:


If anyone is looking at buying from Simple Tire you may want to check their prices daily over a 2 - 4 week period. I experienced it first-hand that they change their prices quite often. When I began considering purchasing the Sailuns from them their price per tire was $136.99, since I wasn't ready to buy at the time, I waited about 2 weeks and checked again, the price had gone up to $154.99 each, I didn't buy. Another week passes by and I check again, they're $141.99, I bought them, then I happened to check the price a week later and they were $124.99.

Did they give you a rebate on the price reduction for the tires you bought?

Twopetes
09-03-2017, 07:16 PM
@TK. I have a 2015 HC 353. It has 110 psi rims and I put the Sailun S637's on it. Pulls great, plenty of space between the tires, really solid and net overall height change was about 3/4 of an inch - max.

Mike117
09-06-2017, 07:21 PM
I have rims 80 PSI. Tire dealer says I can run Saliun tires at 80 PSI. From the help on this forum I found 6 lug rims that can handle 110 PSI. I have 2014 HC, so relatively lighter Montana. So just run the tires at 80 or purchase new rims. Leaning on running at 80 and save some money. Yes I don't need this heavy of tire, I am sure some will say. I plan on doing some traveling next year and don't want tire issues. Your opinions?

mlh
09-06-2017, 07:28 PM
My opinion very smart move. Now you can enjoy your travels without worrying about tires.
Lynwood

Mike117
09-06-2017, 07:31 PM
Ok do I stay with current rims or upgrade to the 110 PSI?

CaptnJohn
09-07-2017, 06:08 AM
Ok do I stay with current rims or upgrade to the 110 PSI?

When I had a Cougar with 80# rims I cheated in the middle with Carlisle LR F. Ran them at 95# . Maybe not a good idea. When later considering Sailun I received an email reply from Sailun saying they could be run at 80#. Bought the Montana instead.?

mlh
09-07-2017, 07:19 AM
Ok do I stay with current rims or upgrade to the 110 PSI?

You can run them at any pressure. It just reduces the carrying capacity of the tire. A, G and a D or an L tire will carry the same amount of weight at a given pressure if they are the same size.
Lynwood

phillyg
09-07-2017, 08:17 AM
I have rims 80 PSI. Tire dealer says I can run Saliun tires at 80 PSI......Your opinions?

I just checked the Sailun psi chart and you should be good at 80psi for your FW. Here's the chart.

Mike117
09-07-2017, 03:56 PM
Thanks everyone. Appreciate the information and help!

Charli
09-07-2017, 09:56 PM
I just checked the Sailun psi chart and you should be good at 80psi for your FW. Here's the chart.

Thanks for the psi chart. Just put on Sailun and given the weight of my Mountaineer and the 6000# axles I should be able to run at 80 psi and still have lots of reserve and a softer ride than going to the max at 110.

What is the speed rating on the tires?

CaptnJohn
09-07-2017, 11:24 PM
Thanks for the psi chart. Just put on Sailun and given the weight of my Mountaineer and the 6000# axles I should be able to run at 80 psi and still have lots of reserve and a softer ride than going to the max at 110.

What is the speed rating on the tires?

Your statement is corrrct. However, an observation ~~~ my Montana HC arrived with 7000# axels, wheels that support 110# psi and Rainier LR E tires at 80# psi. Changed to Sailun 235/85/r16, not 235/80, that are rated to 4400# per tire at 110#. Noticed a better pull with the Sailun tires at 110 psi. Never had a drawer or cabinet drawer open or anything else. One 480 mile trip found a cup and plate still on the kitchen counter and a glass and toothbrush holder still on the vanity top. I'm finding the Sailun st 110 rides with less chucking as well. Just my 2 cents.

pkbridges77
09-08-2017, 10:14 PM
We are in West Yellowstone and had a heck of a time finding anyone who would work with us on a set of Sailuns. One guy here said he never heard of them and wouldn't install something he didn't sell. Quote from Les Schwab in Rexburg ID was $1072. Simpletire.com has them now 10% off so $115 per tire plus FET. Less than $20 shipping per tire made it $560 for 4, and finally found a guy here who will install them for $35/wheel. $140 installation plus $560 for the tires still saved me almost $400. Getting them installed on the SOB next week when they arrive.

scottz
09-08-2017, 11:02 PM
We are in West Yellowstone and had a heck of a time finding anyone who would work with us on a set of Sailuns. One guy here said he never heard of them and wouldn't install something he didn't sell. Quote from Les Schwab in Rexburg ID was $1072. Simpletire.com has them now 10% off so $115 per tire plus FET. Less than $20 shipping per tire made it $560 for 4, and finally found a guy here who will install them for $35/wheel. $140 installation plus $560 for the tires still saved me almost $400. Getting them installed on the SOB next week when they arrive.

There's a couple of Big-O dealers in Idaho Falls. My Big-O dealer will get anything I ask for and gives me a good price. Not sure he could match $115.

coachgrowl
10-13-2017, 03:26 PM
Is there a
sailun dealer in the SF bay area?

Carl n Susan
10-13-2017, 08:32 PM
Both Big O and Les Schwab carry Sailuns. I am positive there is one of them near you in S.F. Plus SimpleTire will ship to your door and any tire guy can install for you.

CaptnJohn
10-14-2017, 07:55 AM
We are in West Yellowstone and had a heck of a time finding anyone who would work with us on a set of Sailuns. One guy here said he never heard of them and wouldn't install something he didn't sell. Quote from Les Schwab in Rexburg ID was $1072. Simpletire.com has them now 10% off so $115 per tire plus FET. Less than $20 shipping per tire made it $560 for 4, and finally found a guy here who will install them for $35/wheel. $140 installation plus $560 for the tires still saved me almost $400. Getting them installed on the SOB next week when they arrive.

I guess they would rather sell you 2nd best at twice the price.

coachgrowl
10-14-2017, 12:35 PM
les schwab quoted $957 for 4 out the door st235/80 r16 but they are backordered. They have st235/85 r16 for $1,070 out the door. Requires a wheel and metal valve stem that can handle 110 psi. Will the wheels on my Montana handle this?

rohrmann
10-14-2017, 01:31 PM
Your 2017 Montana should already have G range tires, but yes, your wheels should already be rated 110 psi.

coachgrowl
10-14-2017, 04:25 PM
My wheels were made in China. Still 110?

Lenny K
10-14-2017, 04:43 PM
Your wheel will be stamped with the PSI. Either pull a wheel off and look at the back or grab a flashlight and crawl underneath. Looking is the only way you will be sure.

CaptnJohn
10-14-2017, 06:56 PM
Your wheel will be stamped with the PSI. Either pull a wheel off and look at the back or grab a flashlight and crawl underneath. Looking is the only way you will be sure.

The wheels on the 2-17 HC had metal valve stems and looked like those on the Montana but had LR E tires. Sent a picture to the manufacturer and they confirmed ~~~ 110 psi. Put Sailun tires on at 110 and zerp problems.

CaptnJohn
10-14-2017, 07:02 PM
les schwab quoted $957 for 4 out the door st235/80 r16 but they are backordered. They have st235/85 r16 for $1,070 out the door. Requires a wheel and metal valve stem that can handle 110 psi. Will the wheels on my Montana handle this?

My tire dealer found the fresh 235/85/R16 at $10 less than the 235/80. I drove straight from the RV dealer to the tire shop. Total price was to be $850 for FIVE out the door. He subtracted $30 each or $150 for the Rainiers that were OEM so my bill was $700. Even at $850 your quote of $1070 seems high, very high.

coachgrowl
10-15-2017, 11:16 AM
We live in California. Nuff said.

masterdrago
10-20-2017, 04:54 PM
Just looked at a 3791RD in a dealers lot. It has Sailun S637 235/85R16 with a max load of 4,400#@110psi printed on the tire. They have changed their tires. Also the Solitude 375RES had similarly rated Westlake tires.

masterdrago
10-20-2017, 04:57 PM
IMO they have been out on the market way too long, and we would be seeing reports of issues if there were any. Again IMO they are the best G rated tire on the market today, they already in the past few years have a better reputation than the Goodyear G614's. Granted the G614's have improved.

I have run the G614's without issue, but to replace them today a person has to spend at least double for them over the Sailun's. Thats ridiculous , they are no better tire, and arguably inferior when reading the reviews.

Basically what you are paying for with the G614's is insurance, heck I don't need to spend more for insurance, I am up to my eyeballs in insurance premiums :)

I'm hearing good stuff about the Chinese made Maxxis tires also. Just recently replaced my 13" boat trailer tires with the 8008 Maxxis.

CaptnJohn
10-20-2017, 06:00 PM
Just looked at a 3791RD in a dealers lot. It has Sailun S637 235/85R16 with a max load of 4,400#@110psi printed on the tire. They have changed their tires. Also the Solitude 375RES had similarly rated Westlake tires.

Westlake may have similar weight ratings but they are far from equal to Sailun tires.

PSFORD99
10-22-2017, 08:06 PM
I'm hearing good stuff about the Chinese made Maxxis tires also. Just recently replaced my 13" boat trailer tires with the 8008 Maxxis.

Not sure what good things you are hearing about the Maxxis tires, and donít believe they make a G rated tire.
Regardless of what you hear about Maxxis or any other E rated tire made in the US or China they donít belong on these heavier Montana fifth wheels. IMO G rated tires are the only tire that belongs on these heavy fifth wheels .

The Maxxis are probably great for a small boat trailer with 13 inch tires , but thatís a long way from these heavy fifth wheels

grumpylane
10-27-2017, 10:14 AM
if anyone is interested. this is the deal i just got from simpletire.com



Product Part Number Quantity Price Total
Sailun S637T ST235/85R -16 - ST235/85R 16 - L
(245.2 lbs)
5540993 4 @$142.99 =$571.96
5% Off Fall Promotion
Shipping
FET
- $28.60
$0.00
$34.04
Total $577.40

CaptnJohn
10-27-2017, 10:25 AM
That is a good price. I paid $770 for 5, included the spare. That was installed too.

Mel B.
11-07-2017, 08:28 AM
Simple tire $546

kevin64
11-25-2017, 06:47 PM
I just purchased 4 new 235/85/16 637's for $300. this does not include having them mounted or balanced.

CaptnJohn
11-25-2017, 07:28 PM
I just purchased 4 new 235/85/16 637's for $300. this does not include having them mounted or balanced.

You found a bargain!

Texan
11-25-2017, 08:44 PM
I just purchased 4 new 235/85/16 637's for $300. this does not include having them mounted or balanced.

Where did you get them at.

WeBeFulltime
11-26-2017, 05:22 AM
I just purchased 4 new 235/85/16 637's for $300. this does not include having them mounted or balanced.

Yep, it's hard to get stolen tires mounted & balanced! Just kidding! :whistling:

PSFORD99
11-26-2017, 09:38 AM
Where did you get them at.


That part probably won't be shared . If so they would have in their original post.

The big part of posting is to share, not sure what the purpose of that post was, unless they come back ,and share.:rolleyes:

OutlawPilot
11-26-2017, 11:42 AM
I ordered mine at 10% off from simpletire for $136 each including FET.

OutlawPilot
11-26-2017, 11:43 AM
I'll have to pay my dealer to install but I'm going to try to offer my Rainiers in trade even up.

NRA-Girl
11-27-2017, 07:21 PM
Or.... you can support an American (Or North American job to keep the Admins happy) and buy an American (North American... Western Hemisphere) Tire and keep someone who is supporting a family and paying taxes in a job.

coachgrowl
11-27-2017, 07:37 PM
where do you purchase 4 sailun tires for $300?

phillyg
11-27-2017, 07:40 PM
Or.... you can support an American......and keep someone who is supporting a family and paying taxes in a job.

Tires are made all over the world and we live in a world-wide economy. For example, recently Consumer Reports tested GY tires made in Canada, Chile, Germany. I believe the GY Endurance ST tires are made in the US. Regardless, when I needed tires for my FW, I chose the best-rated (so far) Sailun made in China. The GY Endurance does not yet have a track record. I buy American when it makes sense, not to appease myopic union workers. Also, there are many Americans working in sales, transportation and distribution of foreign tires who also pay taxes.

AZ Traveler
11-27-2017, 08:02 PM
If we always went out and blindly bought American we would still be driving the poor quality cars and trucks built by Detroit in the 70s. It was international competition that forced US companies to improve quality. I now drive American products since they have improved quality but don't do it blindly. I always want to support the American company and worker as long as they are competitive in quality and price - I will even pay a little extra.

CaptnJohn
11-27-2017, 08:07 PM
Or.... you can support an American (Or North American job to keep the Admins happy) and buy an American (North American... Western Hemisphere) Tire and keep someone who is supporting a family and paying taxes in a job.

On tires I buy what will be the best/safest ~~ Sailun made in China. For the F350 I buy Michelin, made in USA. The Sailuns cost $750 and Michelins $1200. I wish the Michelins were made in China.

masterdrago
11-28-2017, 08:25 AM
I've read so much about Sailun tires and our new Monty has them but what is their track record? Company began production in 2001 but how long have they been used on big RVs? Everybody seems to have nothing but good to say about them. Are they for real. No dealer near us even carries them and most have never heard of them. Discount Tire would not even order any for us b4 we decided on the Monty. Also, they will not sell any road hazard warranty on them since they cannot get them. I hope their great record remains and they do not cheapen down like some of the GY tire have (Marathon).

CaptnJohn
11-28-2017, 08:49 AM
I've read so much about Sailun tires and our new Monty has them but what is their track record? Company began production in 2001 but how long have they been used on big RVs? Everybody seems to have nothing but good to say about them. Are they for real. No dealer near us even carries them and most have never heard of them. Discount Tire would not even order any for us b4 we decided on the Monty. Also, they will not sell any road hazard warranty on them since they cannot get them. I hope their great record remains and they do not cheapen down like some of the GY tire have (Marathon).

You certainly need to find a better dealer before replacement time when they age out.

Ram Montana High Country
11-28-2017, 08:53 AM
Just installed the Sailun 85-16R Tires yesterday. They weight considerable more the Ranieer tires removed. Rolled easier down the road. Design is the same as those used on ORT Semi Trailers - thinking I made the right choice.

Ram Montana High Country
11-28-2017, 08:58 AM
Simple tire delivered 3 days after ordering - Discount Tire mounted quickly and cost effective. I found tire shop that could/would order and quoted competitively, he was unfortunately 70 miles away. Would have gone that direction if we had been heading out to camp.

PSFORD99
11-28-2017, 09:03 AM
Simple tire delivered 3 days after ordering - Discount Tire mounted quickly and cost effective. I found tire shop that could/would order and quoted competitively, he was unfortunately 70 miles away. Would have gone that direction if we had been heading out to camp.

Thats how I handled it, got a local dealer to match prices, did not want to deal with Simple tire .

PeteandJoan
11-28-2017, 10:14 AM
Maybe we should quit boasting about how great the Sailun tires are and what a great deal we got....Sailun might just wake up and start jacking up those low prices to just below the G614. LOL

CaptnJohn
11-28-2017, 10:35 AM
Maybe we should quit boasting about how great the Sailun tires are and what a great deal we got....Sailun might just wake up and start jacking up those low prices to just below the G614. LOL

Or GY would drop prices below Sailun which still would not be a bargain.

mlh
11-28-2017, 06:38 PM
This discussion of made in America made me wonder where are our trucks made, how much American content is in out pickups? What I found I didnít expect. I didnít find anything on out heavy duty trucks just the 1/2 ton for 2015. Ford 70% tied with Toyota 70% Ram 61% and Chevy 45%.
So is a Toyota with all the profit going to Japan more American than our apple pie and hotdog Chevy? Not to me. Chevy is the American truck!
Lynwood

coachgrowl
11-28-2017, 08:18 PM
Built by dodge shaken by cummins. If you tow you need cummins end of discussion. My last 5.9 went 250,000 and still did not burn oil and ran like a scalded cat.

beeje
11-29-2017, 04:46 PM
No doughty , Cummins makes a great diesel ( that's probably the reason they are in most of the diesel pusher motorhomes) The rest of the truck seams to fall apart around the motor. Had one, and it was enough for me. Could not pay me to drive another.

Been driving a duramax trucks since 2002 (four different trucks over 500k miles) and have not had a major issue that GM did not fix under warranty.

Just met I guy at the Talladega race with a 2011 ford. HPFP went at 60k. Cost him 12k to fix. Two weeks later the 6.7 spun a bearing. What does the guy do, Trades it in on another 6.7 ford. I'm sorry but if I was him there is no way in hell I would have bought another ford truck.......

AZ Traveler
11-29-2017, 05:59 PM
Why did we move from tires to trucks with this thread?

phillyg
11-29-2017, 06:24 PM
I've read so much about Sailun tires and our new Monty has them but what is their track record?.....

All we've got is anecdotal evidence; I've never seen any independent testing results. I've never heard of a Sailun failure on any of the five RV forums I peruse. So far I believe I made the right decision. Only time will tell if I'm right.

PSFORD99
11-29-2017, 07:14 PM
All we've got is anecdotal evidence; I've never seen any independent testing results. I've never heard of a Sailun failure on any of the five RV forums I peruse. So far I believe I made the right decision. Only time will tell if I'm right.


Have you seen any independent testing of the Goodyear G614's, plenty to read about with them ,and the failures.

I agree you made the right decision, I mean how many years do we keep testing these Sailuns before we realize they are a great tire. IMO they have proved they are a better tire then the G614's more ways then one.

On edit, hopefully we are back on track, and can skip the truck debate. Start a new thread ,and have at it.

CaptnJohn
11-29-2017, 07:50 PM
Have you seen any independent testing of the Goodyear G614's, plenty to read about with them ,and the failures.

I agree you made the right decision, I mean how many years do we keep testing these Sailuns before we realize they are a great tire. IMO they have proved they are a better tire then the G614's more ways then one.

On edit, hopefully we are back on track, and can skip the truck debate. Start a new thread ,and have at it.

X200. Best tire you can put on a 5er!

Mel B.
11-30-2017, 07:42 AM
I just purchased 4 new 235/85/16 637's for $300. this does not include having them mounted or balanced.


Something not right with that price, Did you check the date?? You don't say where you bought them?

PSFORD99
11-30-2017, 08:39 AM
Something not right with that price, Did you check the date?? You don't say where you bought them?

I doubt we are going to get anymore information from him, it appears its his one ,and only post.

Mel B.
11-30-2017, 08:50 AM
I doubt we are going to get anymore information from him, it appears its his one ,and only post.

Agreed, I had a colonoscopy yesterday. But I think the guy with the $300 Sailuns is blowing more gas then I did:D

Lenny K
11-30-2017, 09:22 AM
Now that is funny Mel. You made my morning......lmao

Mel B.
11-30-2017, 01:26 PM
Now that is funny Mel. You made my morning......lmao

Glad to make you laugh.

Ram Montana High Country
11-30-2017, 04:31 PM
Ok - now the new Sailun question- what pressure is everyone running?
I know one person dropped from 110 to 100
Another post the Sailun tire pressure chart showing my High Country could go to 90 with my max weight

What say yee?

mlh
11-30-2017, 05:19 PM
Ok - now the new Sailun question- what pressure is everyone running?
I know one person dropped from 110 to 100
Another post the Sailun tire pressure chart showing my High Country could go to 90 with my max weight

What say yee?

I se no reason not to run max pressure. Your tires will run cooler, get slightly better fuel mileage. Your camper will ride slightly rougher but you donít ride in it.
Lynwood

CaptnJohn
11-30-2017, 05:33 PM
I bought fresh 85 series instead of the 80 series. They were $10 each less than the 80. I run them at 100 and they run cool. At 110 it was a rougher ride. At 100 much smoother and still higher capacity than the 80.

beeje
11-30-2017, 05:40 PM
I run mine at 110. Like mlh said you don't ride in the trailer anyway. I don't see how it is even possible to feel the difference in air pressure while towing anyway. Recently made a 2000 mile trip with some stuff on the counters, and it never moved.

AZ Traveler
11-30-2017, 06:45 PM
110, not sure why you would run them at other than the recommended pressure.

phillyg
12-01-2017, 12:23 PM
110, not sure why you would run them at other than the recommended pressure.

It's not necessary to run them at max pressure if the RV weighs less than x. For example, at 110psi = 4,400lbs x 4 = 17,600lbs. Since most of our Montanas weigh much less than that at the axles, we can run less than max psi. The Sailun tire pressure chart goes down to 80psi.

Running less than max psi is done frequently by Class A drivers, after they get weighed, if their individual axles come in lower (and they can't stand the jarring at max psi). Having said all that, I run at 110psi because the FW seems to ride nicely and I've not had anything break loose inside.

bobkinner
01-19-2018, 01:45 PM
what would the difference be between the sailun s637 and the s637t?
thank you

Preston & Terri
01-19-2018, 02:08 PM
what would the difference be between the sailun s637 and the s637t?
thank you

From the manufacturer's website.....

http://gosailun.com/MRT/Tire/S637

http://gosailun.com/MRT/Tire/S637T

Looks like the S637 can be used on a motor driven vehicle AND trailers while the S637T is only suitable for trailers.

waynemoore
01-19-2018, 02:24 PM
If you read the application it says that the S637t is for 5th wheel and trailers.

AZ Traveler
01-19-2018, 04:13 PM
what would the difference be between the sailun s637 and the s637t?
thank you

Would say primarily price.

AZ Traveler
01-19-2018, 09:33 PM
I just received an email coupon from simple tire for 10% that runs through the end of Jan. If you are ready to buy, this will save you a few bucks. Simple tire will ship the Sailuns to you if you don't have a local dealer.

scottkeen
01-21-2018, 01:00 PM
what would the difference be between the sailun s637 and the s637t?
thank you

From what I can see, Ply Rating and size availability.

My 347THT takes 235/80R16 which is only availble as S637T

I ordered 1 S637T tire (for the spare) from Tires-Easy.com for $137 with free shipping. It arrived very quickly, like 2 days.

If there's a better price, I'd like to know -- I need to buy the other 4 tires.

EDIT: That 10% discount (coupon code "JAN10") from Simple Tire is a better deal at $134 after discount. But after the discount expires, I think Tires-Easy has the better regular price.

Wicked1
01-21-2018, 09:54 PM
How are the tires that come on the new Montana’s we just bought a new 2018 3120 with Sailun 235/85/16’s and I have had good luck with Carlisle’s brand but hope these new G rated tires will give me at least 5000-10000 before I have to replace them and hoping no issues if kept at max tire pressure?

CaptnJohn
01-21-2018, 10:39 PM
I too had great success with Carlisle tires on lighter 5ers. The highest rating Carlisle makes is LR F. The Sailun LR G S637 are the best tire available, closely followed by GY G614.

Wicked1
01-22-2018, 06:39 AM
Capt John this Sailunís are the ones they put in the new Montanaís right? I didnít even think to look which models were on mine but I know they are G rated 235/80/16ís for sure

CaptnJohn
01-22-2018, 07:30 AM
Capt John this Sailunís are the ones they put in the new Montanaís right? I didnít even think to look which models were on mine but I know they are G rated 235/80/16ís for sure

Correct. They are rated for 4080# at 110# PSI. I would not run anything but Sailun on a 5er over 12,000# GVWR. I have the 235/85/16 on ~~ the only difference is they are rated at 4400# at 110PSI. Either are more than we need.

Wicked1
01-22-2018, 09:22 AM
We do not ever run with more than 750#’s of year Total including Propane and a little bit of fresh water. We always empty our tanks in transit and try to run light keep safety margin high bc I have a F350 2016

PSFORD99
01-22-2018, 11:29 AM
From what I can see, Ply Rating and size availability.

My 347THT takes 235/80R16 which is only availble as S637T

I ordered 1 S637T tire (for the spare) from Tires-Easy.com for $137 with free shipping. It arrived very quickly, like 2 days.

If there's a better price, I'd like to know -- I need to buy the other 4 tires.

EDIT: That 10% discount (coupon code "JAN10") from Simple Tire is a better deal at $134 after discount. But after the discount expires, I think Tires-Easy has the better regular price.


I paid 635.01 out the door for a set of four. Thats 158.75 each, bought locally.

After receiving them from Simpletire ,hauling them to a tire shop, paying for mounting ,balancing, probably new metal valve stems, you are going to be pretty close to what I paid. Around $25.00 total difference I would guess, not hardly worth the effort from Simpletire

Big O carries Sailun, I got a tire dealer closer to where I live here locally to match Big O's quote. Plus I knew before hand what the date code was on the tires. Plus Big O at the time was cheaper then Simpletire, so didn't have to see if they would meet or beat them .

So it appears Simpletire is a bit cheaper now, but not by much, probably because they were getting beat out by local tire dealers. Not enough savings to bother with Simpletire, unless Sailuns just aren't available locally.

I only say this because we keep hearing about Simpletire, they are not the only game in town, nor in reality the best price. Many local dealers will match the price, only need to ask.

CaptnJohn
01-22-2018, 12:59 PM
^^ true. My local dealer beats them every time.

beeje
01-22-2018, 06:43 PM
I will not EVER run a Carlisle tire down the road. They came from the factory on my 2007 raptor toyhauler and were toast at less than 4k miles.I complained to the dealer and Carlisle, even sent a few back to be inspected. The dealer and Carlisle did NOTHING. You could not pay me to tow anything with them on it. If they were on my wheel barrel, I would have them replaced.!!!!!!

PSFORD99
01-23-2018, 01:53 PM
^^ true. My local dealer beats them every time.


I look online for the best price, then I give Tire Pro here a call , and they match it. I first start off with having Tire Pro give me their best price, then I hit them up for a price match. I have never been turned down.

I have had Tire Pro match a great online price online for a tonneau cover, plus they installed it. Online I would have had to install.

Simpletire would have to be a lot cheaper for me to even consider them, and they are not.

I think its better to give the local business a chance, pretty soon online will run everyone out of business.

AZ Traveler
01-23-2018, 03:36 PM
I used simpletire as we don't have a local tire store that sells Sailun trailer tires in southern AZ. I tried to give discount tire my business but they were happy to install my sailun.

Texan
02-21-2018, 11:38 PM
Sailun 235x85x16 tires are now $539.59 delivered to your door. I just installed new tires today,my 2nd set.

scottkeen
02-22-2018, 06:34 AM
Sailun coupon on simpletire.com

Coupon code "SAILUN10" for 10% off at checkout, good until Feb 28, 2018

Comes out to $515.08 for (4) 235/80R16 tires

http://scottkeen.s3.amazonaws.com/public/simpletire-sailun10-coupon.JPG

PSFORD99
02-22-2018, 11:20 AM
Sailun 235x85x16 tires are now $539.59 delivered to your door. I just installed new tires today,my 2nd set.


Second set of Sailuns ? If so how long ,and miles did the first set go.

Texan
02-23-2018, 09:36 PM
Second set of Sailuns ? If so how long ,and miles did the first set go.

My 1st set was 4 1/2 years old and had about 20,000 miles on them. I wasn't planning on getting another set till the fall but my utility trailer needed tires now so i installed the old sailuns on the utility trailer and bought a new set for the rv. I have NO complaints at all with the sailuns except they are tougher than the wheels on account i had 2 wheels crack in the last 2 years so i replaced all the wheels. This goes to show you how tough the tires are and how weak the wheels are.These tires are cheaper than when i bought my first set on account of the 10% off and free shipping which saves you about 30.00 per tire not counting the sales tax savings which is another 8.00 or so, depending on your states sales tax rate.

PSFORD99
02-24-2018, 09:48 AM
My 1st set was 4 1/2 years old and had about 20,000 miles on them. I wasn't planning on getting another set till the fall but my utility trailer needed tires now so i installed the old sailuns on the utility trailer and bought a new set for the rv. I have NO complaints at all with the sailuns except they are tougher than the wheels on account i had 2 wheels crack in the last 2 years so i replaced all the wheels. This goes to show you how tough the tires are and how weak the wheels are.These tires are cheaper than when i bought my first set on account of the 10% off and free shipping which saves you about 30.00 per tire not counting the sales tax savings which is another 8.00 or so, depending on your states sales tax rate.


Thanks,good to hear. Got 4 years before I need to replace my Sailuns.I go 6 years.

Thats a great price, when I bought mine locally said ,and done was just a little cheaper then Simpletire, after mounting ,and balancing. Now unless the price locally has gone down it looks to be about $60-70 cheaper depending on mounting ,and balancing after ordering.

I'll look online the next time around ,but have a feeling I can do just as well locally with a price match ,as before. Less hassle buying locally. What is the cost for mounting ,and balancing taking them to a tire shop.

Texan
02-25-2018, 02:23 PM
I had mine mounted and balanced for 15.00 each. I kept 3 of the tires for my utility trailer and one for my 2nd spare on the rv . If you plan on having the old tires recycled then it will cost for that. I paid 4.00 each for 3 tires on my utility trailer for tire shop to dispose of them. I know most people balance there tires as i do but i had the weights installed on both sides of the wheels so they would balance more accurately. I now have aluminum wheels with no paint on them so my weights didn't show up much.As for cost, the independent tire dealer that installed mine asked how much i paid and i told him 539.59 and he said he couldn't even buy then at his cost for that price.

PSFORD99
02-26-2018, 06:07 PM
I had mine mounted and balanced for 15.00 each. I kept 3 of the tires for my utility trailer and one for my 2nd spare on the rv . If you plan on having the old tires recycled then it will cost for that. I paid 4.00 each for 3 tires on my utility trailer for tire shop to dispose of them. I know most people balance there tires as i do but i had the weights installed on both sides of the wheels so they would balance more accurately. I now have aluminum wheels with no paint on them so my weights didn't show up much.As for cost, the independent tire dealer that installed mine asked how much i paid and i told him 539.59 and he said he couldn't even buy then at his cost for that price.

So right at $600 said ,and done. I gave $635 out the door going on a year now.

smokeater32
03-01-2018, 06:15 PM
Ordered 5 Sailun S637's from SimpleTire on Monday night, and had them delivered before 10am this morning. $643.86 total (+ free shipping) using the 10% off code. Mulled over buying these or the G614's for at least a month, and after reading all of your testimonials and considering the overall cost, I was finally sold on these tires. It is a VERY stout tire, and looking forward to getting them installed for our trip to Lake Havasu in two weeks. Thank you all for the info and recommendations!! :thumbsup:

PSFORD99
03-01-2018, 10:59 PM
Ordered 5 Sailun S637's from SimpleTire on Monday night, and had them delivered before 10am this morning. $643.86 total (+ free shipping) using the 10% off code. Mulled over buying these or the G614's for at least a month, and after reading all of your testimonials and considering the overall cost, I was finally sold on these tires. It is a VERY stout tire, and looking forward to getting them installed for our trip to Lake Havasu in two weeks. Thank you all for the info and recommendations!! :thumbsup:


IMO ,you made a good choice. Been happy with mine for about a year now.

Texan
03-01-2018, 11:27 PM
Great choice.

Campntwins
03-02-2018, 05:25 PM
Saying goodbye to the Trailer Kings and giving a sigh of relieve that we had no issues with them. Our Saliuns arrive Monday.

CaptnJohn
03-02-2018, 06:10 PM
Saying goodbye to the Trailer Kings and giving a sigh of relieve that we had no issues with them. Our Saliuns arrive Monday.

Good luck and I think you will notice an improvement while towing..

Texan
03-05-2018, 08:35 PM
Don't get a hernia picking up the tires.

bshgto
03-09-2018, 07:29 PM
Honey I told you we should have bought the Sailuns instead of these China bombs

CaptnJohn
03-09-2018, 07:37 PM
Honey I told you we should have bought the Sailuns instead of these China bombs

Never would have thought that was even possible!!

bobkinner
03-22-2018, 01:43 PM
thank everyone for there input. I have decided on the sailun s637t tire in the proper size. after checking the current tire on my 2005 3650 rk,i found them to be uniroyal(which doesn't creat confidence) a lt 23585 r16. load rating of e. to me that sounds rather low for a trailer this size and weight.please respond with any thoughts or advice.send me your thoughts.

AZ Traveler
03-22-2018, 01:46 PM
Sounds like a good choice. Good quality at a reasonable price.

Texan
03-22-2018, 07:49 PM
thank everyone for there input. I have decided on the sailun s637t tire in the proper size. after checking the current tire on my 2005 3650 rk,i found them to be uniroyal(which doesn't creat confidence) a lt 23585 r16. load rating of e. to me that sounds rather low for a trailer this size and weight.please respond with any thoughts or advice.send me your thoughts.
With the sailun tires rated a G, this gives you 4400 pound capacity compared to the E rated tires at slightly over 3,000 pounds. I have the 235x85x16 tires and you will be very happy and pleased with there tuffness and performance.You can not buy any better tire for the price.

bobkinner
03-23-2018, 12:19 PM
i contacted simpletire yesterday by email to see if they could provide a date of manufacture on their tires. the answer i got was the date of manufacture would not exceed 4 years.after reading what others have said in this forum that would seem to be half of the tires life. i would like to hear from people that have purchased tires through them regarding the date of manufacture.
on a totally unrelated note is there an easy way to find your posts with out an extended search, please enlighten me.

AZ Traveler
03-23-2018, 01:20 PM
My tires from simple tire were 3 mon old when I received them.

CaptnJohn
03-23-2018, 03:25 PM
Tell them to order but if more than XXXX months old you will refuse them.

Carl n Susan
03-23-2018, 04:05 PM
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....on a totally unrelated note is there an easy way to find your posts with out an extended search, please enlighten me.
</snip>
There sure is. In fact, there are a couple of ways. Referring to the picture below, the first way is to Click on the "User CP" option in the brown bar. The second way is to Click on your user name shown in the left pane.

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Both ways will take you to your Profile, where you can select the "Statistics" option. Within that you will find an option to "Find All Posts by ...".
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suny07
03-29-2018, 01:34 PM
Hello,

I'm trying to understand the Speed Index for the Sailun G637.
As they state its not only for trailers - how fast can you go?
Over 65?

Thanks for any link to propper documentation ;)

Thanks,
Mike

richfaa
03-29-2018, 03:36 PM
The Sailum may or may no be a good tire IMO that has not yet been determined. We will go with a proven tire for now.

masterdrago
03-29-2018, 03:47 PM
Hello,

I'm trying to understand the Speed Index for the Sailun G637.
As they state its not only for trailers - how fast can you go?
Over 65?

Thanks for any link to propper documentation ;)

Thanks,
Mike Speed rating L is 75 http://www.sailuntires.ca/MRT/S637.html M is 81.
https://www.etrailer.com/question-152234.html

suny07
03-29-2018, 04:20 PM
Speed rating L is 75 http://www.sailuntires.ca/MRT/S637.html M is 81.
https://www.etrailer.com/question-152234.html

cool, that will work than too :thumbsup:

thank you

CaptnJohn
03-29-2018, 06:05 PM
The Sailum may or may no be a good tire IMO that has not yet been determined. We will go with a proven tire for now.

The Sailun tires have been around a long time. Failures??? No other tire has as good a reputation. The G614 is a good tire at twice the price and has only a few reported failures.

Texan
03-30-2018, 12:26 AM
The Sailum may or may no be a good tire IMO that has not yet been determined. We will go with a proven tire for now.

I would suspect if there was a poll taken as to which g rated tire was preferred and bought in the last 5 years, Sailun would win or come in a close second. When no one on this forum that has Sailuns ever complained about them after thousands of miles i would say they are proven. I as well as many others have visited other sites and i don't recall any complaints on the Sailuns on there sites. I put 20,000 miles on my Sailuns and took out 2 factory wheels with them and the tires kept on rolling. I just bought a new set for my rv on account i needed tires for my heavy duty utility trailer so i installed the old tires on it. Just how long does it take for these tires to be proven?

WeBeFulltime
03-30-2018, 05:34 AM
The Sailum may or may no be a good tire IMO that has not yet been determined. We will go with a proven tire for now.

Everyone is certainly entitled to their opinion and the choice of how they spend THEIR $$. I did not record the date/time I first heard the words Sailun S637 tires but I know it has been some time and there have been many discussions here and other forums about them.

I have yet to read the term "I sure wish I had bought the other brand instead of the Sailuns" or anything like it. The other brand is over rated and over priced IMO.

richfaa
03-30-2018, 08:50 AM
Sailun Tire established in 2002, is situated in National Economic and Technological Development Zone in Qingdao, China. The genesis of Sailun Tire is one of evolution. Its parent company, Mesnac Co. Ltd., designs and manufactures tire building equipment. Sailun Tire was a logical step in showcasing the high quality tires that their equipment is capable of producing.

I have not been able to find information on when the S637 tire came on the market.

CaptnJohn
03-30-2018, 09:03 AM
Sailun Tire established in 2002, is situated in National Economic and Technological Development Zone in Qingdao, China. The genesis of Sailun Tire is one of evolution. Its parent company, Mesnac Co. Ltd., designs and manufactures tire building equipment. Sailun Tire was a logical step in showcasing the high quality tires that their equipment is capable of producing.

I have not been able to find information on when the S637 tire came on the market.

No need. No matter what you would find some are very brand loyal. They have had good luck and have no problem paying twice as much for 2nd best.

mhs4771
03-30-2018, 09:12 AM
The real test will come when there is a Sailun tire failure and if Sailun will step up to the plate and cover repairs if determined it was a tire defect.

CaptnJohn
03-30-2018, 09:19 AM
The real test will come when there is a Sailun tire failure and if Sailun will step up to the plate and cover repairs if determined it was a tire defect.

I have insurance on my 5er at $400per year that would cover that. I see no reason to pay GY about $125 per tire for double coverage.

PSFORD99
03-30-2018, 09:27 AM
Sailun Tire established in 2002, is situated in National Economic and Technological Development Zone in Qingdao, China. The genesis of Sailun Tire is one of evolution. Its parent company, Mesnac Co. Ltd., designs and manufactures tire building equipment. Sailun Tire was a logical step in showcasing the high quality tires that their equipment is capable of producing.

I have not been able to find information on when the S637 tire came on the market.

I have been reading about Sailuns at least the past 6 years, not long after I bought a set of G614's . I kept hearing about them, and the great reviews. When the time came last year I did not hesitate to buy a set of Sailun's.

I have yet to read of any failures, matter of fact, I have NEVER heard of even a complaint about them .

I would recommend Sailun's long before I would ever recommend G614's, even if the G614 was the same price. At twice the price ,and a track record that has not been that stellar, I would never buy another set of Goodyear G614's.

There was a report on RV Net not long ago of a failure with the new Goodyear Endurance trailer tire that some had high hopes for , it was reported first on the Forest River forum. Didn't take long ,they have been out for about a year or so.

PSFORD99
03-30-2018, 09:31 AM
I have insurance on my 5er at $400per year that would cover that. I see no reason to pay GY about $125 per tire for double coverage.


We keep hearing the argument about this coverage thing, I too have insurance for such things, no sense in buying more. . Thats the least of my concerns. My concern is a tire that won't leave me beside the road to start with.

PSFORD99
03-30-2018, 09:33 AM
The real test will come when there is a Sailun tire failure and if Sailun will step up to the plate and cover repairs if determined it was a tire defect.


The real test IMO has already been proven ,the dependability of the Sailuns.

Lestor999
03-30-2018, 11:18 AM
My 07 3400RL has it above the washer/dryer in the hide-hole behind the breaker panel.

suny07
04-04-2018, 06:53 AM
hello,

I am calling my typical suspects of tire workshops and ask for lug centric balancing.
They all say they don't do this and don't have that type of adapter.

Any idea or help form you guys who did follow that procedure how to find or source a shop which can do it?

Is it better to look out for a semi workshop?

Thanks,
Mike

phillyg
04-04-2018, 07:36 AM
......I am calling my typical suspects of tire workshops and ask for lug centric balancing.
They all say they don't do this and don't have that type of adapter.
Mike......

I suggest you keep calling till you find one. When I bought mine from simpletire, there were two local shops in my area they had "partnered" with for installation. I placed my order and tires were drop-shipped to the installer, which had the right equipment and called me to set-up the day to come in.

suny07
04-10-2018, 08:04 AM
hello,

I am calling my typical suspects of tire workshops and ask for lug centric balancing.
They all say they don't do this and don't have that type of adapter.

Any idea or help form you guys who did follow that procedure how to find or source a shop which can do it?

Is it better to look out for a semi workshop?

Thanks,
Mike

just a quick info if someone will have to search again for a tire shop in Atlanta...

Contractor Tires, Marietta, GA https://www.contractorstire.com/ are doing RV Trailer Tire Changes and Balancing.
I brought the tires and they charged me 20$ per tire incl. balancing.

All others I've asked refused to change tires on our 5th wheel.

Mike

Wicked1
04-12-2018, 08:54 AM
I have seen the G614's for around $310-320 each, looks like they haven't gotten quite a bit more expensive.

I still have my original spare 235/80/16, never concerned me too much with the G614's using the spare. Now with these new Sailuns I have, they are probably 1.5-2" higher then the OEM . I need to drop it down, and check it out. Most likely I'll go buy another Sailun. I probably should of just got 5 of them to start with. Still would of put me under $800 for a set of 5


Are the Sailunís that much higher then the stock Rainer Tires that came on our unit? 235/80/16?

I have roughly 4,000 miles on them since we bought it on 2/15/18 and I check them before each trip but all this talk about them Rainer being crap worries me.

Most likely I will switch to the Sailunís before our Disney trip in December by just towed from NJ to Florida and Back with no issues on stock tires, keep them at 110psi cold

CaptnJohn
04-12-2018, 09:09 AM
I found the 235/85/16 Sailun .9" taller on the spec sheet. The Sailun 235/80/16 I thought was almost the same.
I took the 5er strait from the dealer to the tire shop to have the Sailun tires installed, 43 miles. The bill was under $800 and he gave me $30 for each of the 5 Rainier tires.

BiggarView
04-12-2018, 09:46 AM
Seems people are generally satisfied with their Sailun S637 tires, at least the 16" G rated tires. Anybody out there using the H rated version? What has been your experience with them vs the GY 114 H tire?

govslug
04-12-2018, 09:49 AM
We just ordered ours from Simply Tires....with 10 % discount now being offered...free shipping....tax......$515.08 for 4 delivered to the house . RV Dealer will be installing them for us.....

CaptnJohn
04-12-2018, 12:50 PM
Seems people are generally satisfied with their Sailun S637 tires, at least the 16" G rated tires. Anybody out there using the H rated version? What has been your experience with them vs the GY 114 H tire?

Recent shipments of Montana and HC 5ers have arrived with 16" wheels rated to 110# psi which supports 16" Sailun tires. The 235/80/16 tires support 4080# each and the 235/85/16 support 4400# each. After taking the PW into consideration (in most cases without) these 5ers do not have the weight coming close to those numbers. My 5er loaded is at 14,000 minus 2900 PW leaving 11,100 on the tires rated to support 17,600. What is to be gained when there have been zero reported failures of the G rated is what I considered when having 235/85/16 tires installed.

suny07
04-12-2018, 03:09 PM
We just ordered ours from Simply Tires....with 10 % discount now being offered...free shipping....tax......$515.08 for 4 delivered to the house . RV Dealer will be installing them for us.....

I have paied the same.
Already mounted and runs much more convincing vs the OEM Rainier...

BuilderBob
04-12-2018, 09:21 PM
Mine came today and are going on on saturday!

Bob & Carol
Washington St
2017 HC 352RL 2008 Dodge 3500 DRW CC LB 4x4

Happy Trails

bobkinner
04-16-2018, 10:49 AM
just to be sure when I order the sailun tires I want the s637 and not the s637t. my camper is a montana 3650rk. are all rims safe to inflate to 110 and how can you determine this? thank you