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vipermanden
01-01-2017, 01:42 PM
Will they rotate tires on my 2016 RAM 3500 dually truck? Or is it too much of a pain to take apart the dually rims just to rotate tires? Thanks, just want to make sure before I take it in for my next service.

K0LCB
01-01-2017, 01:53 PM
The rear wheels are only fastened together with lug nuts. I rotate tires on my Ram about 10,000 miles

vipermanden
01-01-2017, 02:10 PM
I thought you had to have special tools to separate the dually rims from each other?

mhs4771
01-01-2017, 02:23 PM
The problem you have is if you have "Raised White Lettering" or Aluminum wheels as generally the inside dual is still steel.
If you only have black walls you should be able to put any wheel in any position without a probem, at least with a GM you can, assume Ram would be much different.

1retired06
01-01-2017, 03:13 PM
quote:Originally posted by vipermanden

I thought you had to have special tools to separate the dually rims from each other?


Nope

dhenry3
01-02-2017, 01:19 AM
I have a 2016 Ram 3500 DRW and you can not rotate the tires without taking them off the rims. The aluminum rims are not polished on the inside and will look real bad if you rotate them without removing tires. The inner rear wheels are steel so you can move them side to side but that's all. I couldn't believe that with the price of this truck that RAM didn't provide wheels polished on both sides.

richfaa
01-02-2017, 02:10 AM
We have never rotated the tires on our 2008 Ford Dually. The tires at all positions wore well.

vipermanden
01-02-2017, 06:55 AM
Thanks, Dennis & Rich. So far using calipers, my tires are wearing real evenly as well. I put 80 psi in front, and 75 in rears when towing. When just cruising around like this winter, I have 73psi in front, and 63 psi in rears.

Irlpguy
01-02-2017, 10:51 AM
The fact that Dodge does not put Aluminum rims on the inside of the duals is a PIA, if you try to rotate the outside dual to a front you wind up with a really crappy looking Aluminum rim that has been pitted and basically ruined by being next to the steel rim on the inside. My fronts were wearing unevenly so I got a wheel alignment and tire rotation, this was what the idiots did on mine. So back I went and paid the $98.00 to have the tires rotated on the rims. I won't have those fancy rims again, nice full size caps and steel rims as were on my '01 Dodge dually.. But wait this is the last truck I am going to own so guess I am stuck with the way it is.

jlb27537
01-02-2017, 12:01 PM
On your Ram, you rotate the tires, not the wheels. So, how much money do you want to spend?

My '12 Ram DRW has all the tires in their original position, it has 23K miles on it. The fronts look new, the backs are probably 70% worn. Will buy a set of 6 in a couple of years and ask for a deal for trading in the 2 good fronts. Rotating 6 tires are about $100. so i have been told.

You end up with rear tires with 2 different tread depths on one side or tires on one side with a different diameters from the other so the spider gears or limited slip are constantly in effect.

mlh
01-02-2017, 12:41 PM
Rotating tires should save you money and at a hundred dollars or so it's hard to see how it could save you much if anything.
Lynwood

1retired06
01-02-2017, 03:16 PM
quote:Originally posted by richfaa

We have never rotated the tires on our 2008 Ford Dually. The tires at all positions wore well.


Same with us

JABURKHOLDER
01-02-2017, 04:53 PM
The owners manual for my 2016 F350 states that rotating the tires is not necessary unless the rears show uneven wear. That being said, there is rotation pattern for duallies. If you have blackwalls on steel rims, rotation is simple. Raised white letters and alloy rims requires breaking down the tires, remounting and rebalancing which will cost more. One of the costs of owning a dually.

An obtw, I was told by "the" tire guy at my dealership that there should be a 10psi difference between front and rear tires. If the rears have the same psi as the fronts the handling characteristics are compromised. Could be a problem in an emergency situation. That being said, when towing I do 80psi front and 70psi rear. Not towing I do 75psi front and 65psi rear.

Got a bit off subject but just thought I'd pass this info along.

kenneth e holman
01-02-2017, 07:26 PM
I have steel wheels on my ram dually with chrome wheel covers so no problem rotating.

Eagleback
01-02-2017, 11:45 PM
Aluminum rims are pretty but have limitations so on the advice of a few transporters I opted to go with steel rims and use them with simulators so then i can rotate all he tires with out having to just do the tire. IMHO steel rim is the only way to go and i can even use the spare in the rotation if i would like too.

vipermanden
01-03-2017, 06:51 AM
Jerry, I agree with your tire guy about 10 psi difference when just driving around. I'm thinking it should be even more? I go with 73 in front, and 63 in back, and with the air bags and one ton suspension it still feels like my teeth might come loose on some rough highways? ;) I am going to stick with 80 in front, and 75 in rears when towing, since I put about 3,500 pounds in the back of the truck when towing. Seems real smooth with this setting. Except for when I unhook, and cruise around at each location? :-)

kenneth e holman
01-03-2017, 03:24 PM
I run 80psi in the front all the time on account i weighed the truck and trailer and the front did not change at all loaded or empty. The front tires are much closer to there capacity at any given time than the rears. I run 70 psi on the rears loaded with 3480 pin weight and 60 psi empty. The book on rams says 80 and 70 psi. My back tires stand up much better loaded at 70psi than the front at 80psi.Even running 60 psi in rears empty stand up much better than the front.I do have duals.

WaltBennett
01-04-2017, 01:02 AM
Keep in mind if you're rotating that you've got to keep the direction of rotation the same. Front right tire should only go to the rear left OUTSIDE, or the rear right INSIDE, etc., etc.

kenneth e holman
01-08-2017, 05:24 PM
Tire direction does not apply to radials like they use to.If you have a dually then your rear outside tire will have to be flipped when moving it to the inside or to the front. The tires stay on the same side when rotating duallys but if i am not mistaken the front tire goes to the inside rear the inside rear to the outside and the outside rear to the front.The outside rear will flip when moving to the front which will change the direction of the tire .I'm sure some tire shops do it differently buy i use Discount tire and they are the largest independent tire dealer in the country.

Fire5er
01-09-2017, 07:14 AM
My dealer told me that it was not required to rotate the DRW. We have not rotated our DRW tires on our 2011.

Preston & Terri
02-14-2017, 05:18 PM
.... i use Discount tire and they are the largest independent tire dealer in the country.

Whoa, I'm sorry, I just gotta ask what a largest "independent" tire dealer is? A thousand individual separate businesses that carry any tire they want? I used to think that the building with the big GoodYear sign out front and painted all over the wall was an actual GY dealer but just try to get a nationwide road hazard warranty honored unless you are in another "corporate" GY store.
Didn't mean to go off topic but let's just say....I'm skeptical.

Todd727
02-14-2017, 05:36 PM
I'll move the inside steel wheel from side to side. I rotate the outside dual and the fronts just like any other rotation. The wheels do get turned around, but since they are the same measurements and aluminum it works. However, you will have to deal with cleaning the inside of the wheels, as when you rotate them from front to back, the inside edge becomes the outside edge. I do not dismount the tires. It is a slight hassle to clean them, but if you rotate frequently enough, they don't get too dirty. If you've gone 50 or 60K, they are going to have a lot of brake dust and it will take a bit of effort and time.