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tnorfitz
10-30-2004, 02:39 PM
I was at my Montana dealer today and he inquired about what he was going to install the Pull Rite Superglide hitch onto. (Bedliner, spray in liner, or straight bed). My original thoughts were to get a bedliner installed, and then have them cut out the bedliner where the support rails were to be attached.
My truck dealer highly reccomends the Line-X spray-in bedliner. I looked at his truck to see the application and it really looked pretty tough.
Does anyone out there have this type of bedliner application[?] If so, how did they install the hitch[?] Did they spray the bed and attach the hitch support rails on top of the Line-X?, or do you attach the hitch support rails first and then spray the bedliner in[?]
I want the best solution figured out before all the goodies come in.
I have a little concern about attaching the hitch support rails over the Line-X because the Line-X is a very hard, rubbery type, spray-in liner, that seems to be about 1/16" thick. I'm worried about there being enough flex in the Line-X product to cause the hitch to work itself loose on the road.
Any ideas on the product, or the way to attach a hitch to a spray-in application [?]

Britney 10
10-30-2004, 02:52 PM
Tina and jim, When we bought our truck it came with the spray in bed liner and we just had the hitch installed over it. We have not towed our Montana yet but it does seem to be sturdy. I will be watching this post to see what everyone else thinks or knows...

Sue
10-30-2004, 02:58 PM
Tina & Jim,
In my past truck, we had the bedliner. For some reason the wind seems to really concentrate and condense in the bed of the truck. It must have something to do with the height of the RV. Ours rattled so loud when pulling anything with it. We don't own the truck anymore, and in my new Dodge my husband insisted on the spray in liner and of course it is silent.

P.S. I remember last year on our way to Florida with the horses, I thought the liner was going to break into little pieces (the regular liner, not the sprayed in one) it was rattling so loud and we could actually see it being lifted by the wind.

Broome101
10-30-2004, 03:11 PM
Sue,I think you will find that you would like a sprayed in liner much better than drop in kind. A little more money but worth theextra cost. Things want slide around like they do in drop in kind, also want hold water tlike those other. Get the spray in Line X is one of the best just like Rhino Liner.

tnorfitz
10-30-2004, 03:16 PM
Do you know what type of spray in liner you had put in?
Some applications seem to be a harder substance than others.
We saw a Rhino-liner spray-in that seemed to be a hard finish. The Line-X seems to be a slightly softer application.
Let me know!

Broome101
10-30-2004, 03:22 PM
Line X is what we have, i can throw what ever when not use it for towing and it doesn'e make a dent or scratch in it. Also things don't slid ea round in it either.

Sue
10-30-2004, 03:24 PM
quote:Originally posted by Broome101

Sue,I think you will find that you would like a sprayed in liner much better than drop in kind.


Maybe my post was confusing, sorry about that. My past truck had the drop in liner.

My new Dodge has the spray in liner. [xx(]

Sue
10-30-2004, 03:25 PM
quote:Originally posted by tnorfitz

Do you know what type of spray in liner you had put in?


While my truck was getting undercoated at Ziebart we had them put the spray in liner in. I believe it is Rhino, but I could be wrong.

Broome101
10-30-2004, 03:26 PM
Installed it afetr getting few scratches in bed, dealer removed my 5th wheel hitch sprayed liner on than reinstalled hich rails. No problems with anything working loose. One thought would be to have it sprayed and also have rails sprayed as well. Since I don't have my rails sprayed you can see rust where the hitch rest on rails and where it gets scratches on it. Look around and see who will work with you on it.

DHenry
10-30-2004, 03:44 PM
Line X is the way to go. I have had it in the last 3 trucks I have owned and would do it again. It is the toughest material I have seen. Nothing scratches it. It will fade in the sun though. Good luck on your choice.

H. John Kohl
10-30-2004, 03:52 PM
tnorfitz,
I used my truck without a bed liner for six months, then pulled the rails and had Line-X sprayed in. I reinstalled the rails ontop of line-x. That is my recommendation. As others have said if done by a reputable dealer it works great. Good luck.

sreigle
10-30-2004, 04:13 PM
This is the third truck we've had a fw hitch on top of a rhino lining spray in liner. Different brand but similar in result (slightly different texture, etc.). Never had a single problem with that combination. On a prior truck we had a drop in liner and I cut out around where the hitch was to install. With winter and summer temperature extremes it tended to curl on the cut edges. Then it got water, leaves, gravel, and other debris under it. Pretty well scratched up the bed under it. I was lucky I didn't get much in the way of rust under there but that's one of the problems I've heard people having. I really like the spray in liners, no matter which brand. The liner goes in first, let it cure for x days (whatever mfr says) then put in the hitch. Our liner was 1/4 in thick overall and more along the edges, like back by the tailgate. I haven't checked the latest one to see if it's the same way.

Countryfolks
10-30-2004, 04:27 PM
I had the dealer drill the holes for the hitch then had the Line-X sprayed, I wanted the rough edges of the holes covered with something to help prefvent rust. The hitch rails were installed on top of the liner. MY dealer recommended to do it this way even though the holes had to be cleaned up slightly. Pulled to the rally, no problems so far. The drop in liners have a tendency to collect water and grit between the bed and the liner and that allows rust to start. The Line-X on my truck is very hard, not rubbery, and stuff slides around. I had a rubber mat in my 97, nothing slid around!

Skip

Glenn and Lorraine
10-30-2004, 04:28 PM
quote:Originally posted by tnorfitz

I was at my Montana dealer today and he inquired about what he was going to install the Pull Rite Superglide hitch onto. (Bedliner, spray in liner, or straight bed). My original thoughts were to get a bedliner installed, and then have them cut out the bedliner where the support rails were to be attached.
My truck dealer highly reccomends the Line-X spray-in bedliner. I looked at his truck to see the application and it really looked pretty tough.
Does anyone out there have this type of bedliner application[?] If so, how did they install the hitch[?] Did they spray the bed and attach the hitch support rails on top of the Line-X?, or do you attach the hitch support rails first and then spray the bedliner in[?]
I want the best solution figured out before all the goodies come in.
I have a little concern about attaching the hitch support rails over the Line-X because the Line-X is a very hard, rubbery type, spray-in liner, that seems to be about 1/16" thick. I'm worried about there being enough flex in the Line-X product to cause the hitch to work itself loose on the road.
Any ideas on the product, or the way to attach a hitch to a spray-in application [?]


First of all, I have a Pullrite SuperGlide in an 03 2500HD.
Secondly, There are NO hitch support rails. NONE, ZERO, ZILCH, NADA.
Third, Get the spray in and forget the drop in.

As my signature says, I have the PullRite Superglide in an 03 2500HD and no part of the Superglide rests on the bed as it is NOT mounted as most other hitches.
NO PART. I REPEAT NO PART of the PullRite touches the bed and therefore would not effect a Line-X or Rhino liner. I wish I had gone with the Line-X or Rhino but instead went with the cheap plastic drop in crap. As a matter of fact, the PullRite doesn't even touch my drop in liner and it surely won't touch your spray in.

First thing the dealer does is to attach 4 brackets directly to the frame beneath the bed. Than he drills 4 holes thru the bed to correspond with 4 mounting holes in the brackets. Into these 4 holes he inserts 4- 3/4 inch steel rods that lock into place in the brackets with just a quarter turn. Than he mounts the Pullrite onto these 4 steel rods. The rods actually hold the hitch off of the bed. again, NO PART of the PullRite touches the bed of the truck.

Now when you remove the hitch and the 4 rods there is NOTHING on the bed with the exception of 4 holes. No bed rails, no nothing.

sreigle
10-30-2004, 05:18 PM
Glenn, I'd buy you a Rhino Liner or Line-X if you'd give me your superglide and mounting hardware! :)

Skip, good point about protecting the holes.

Steve Ryan
10-30-2004, 05:37 PM
I gotta go with the Line-X too. After I saw what my boss did with his pickup(rancher/farmer) his Line-X is holding up great,I was sold. I too had the hitch installed then removed it to spray around all the bare metal holes. Living on the central coast of CA the salt air finds it way into everything. The pickup won't fit in the garage so outside it sits. The truck gets washed a lot.

My last pick up had a bed liner and it trapped a lot "stuff" around the rails just inviting rust to form. So I think the spray-on is the way to go. I'm not sure but I think Rhino has a selection of colors to spray on, last I heard Line-X doesn't.

stiles watson
10-30-2004, 06:42 PM
Spray-in, regardless of name, is the way to go. Had it on three trucks and all were in good shape when I sold them. I do recommend edge caps for you bed rim. The hitch won't care what you use. It will do its job.

vickster
10-30-2004, 07:23 PM
Tina and Jim - For additional information on this topic do a "search", for we asked this same question last spring when we were trying to make the same decision.

Based upon the input we received, we decided to go with the Rhino spray-in liner. We liked the Rhino for it seemed thicker and softer to us than Line-x, we liked the shinny finish, and items placed in the truck bed DO NOT slide. We have a lifetime (as long as we own the truck) guarantee against tears and fadding. Truck seems to ride quieter with the spray-in liner.

The spray-in liner is installed before the hitch. It kind of makes you sick to find out that the entire bed of your brand new truck is sanded to create a rough finish so the liner adhears effectively. You also need to allow the spray-in liner to "cure" for several days before you install your hitch. Generally, the hitch is installed after the liner application. For one reason if you ever sell your truck, you have those bumps in the truck bed, and new owner may not appreciate that, also, if you upgrade your truck and keep your hitch you would need to purchase another set of rails.

Living in the snow belt we felt the spray in liner was the best way to go because of moisture accumulating under a drop in liner causing rust, as well as the drop in liners are noiser and will crack.

Our hitch is simular to Glenn's. We also have the "rail-less" system. Ours is the pull-rite signature series. There are NO rails in the bed of the truck, only four small holes. When we remove our hitch, we have four plastic plugs to fill the holes, and our truck bed is perfectly flat - great for hauling things.

Hope this helps. Good luck in your decision.

tnorfitz
10-30-2004, 07:34 PM
Glenn,
There are 2 ways to attach the Superglide to the truck. One is the way you stated, but it is more expensive than the universal hitch rails that attach to the truck bed. In using the less expensive attachment, there are 2 hitch rails, or brackets, that attach to the bed of the truck. The Superglide attaches to these hitch rails, or brackets. I received the free demo tape from Superglide, and it shows both the types of attachments. The attachment you described leaves a completely flat bed, but the less expensive attachment leaves 2 rails that are about 1 1/2 inches high.
I transport a Grizzly 4 wheeler in the back for snow removal purposes, and these 2 rails should not present a problem for the 4 wheeler.
For those of you who recommended attaching the hitch, then removing it to spray in the liner to seal the holes, would you have to redrill the holes to get the bolts to fit through the sprayed openings. Seems like you would have to drill back to the metal to get the bolts to fit through. Or are the holes drilled large enough to allow some filling of the Line-X in these holes?

Montana Sky
10-30-2004, 08:34 PM
I also have the Superglide hitch and a spray in bed liner. I had the dealership spray my liner in for me when I bought the truck. My rv dealership said it was better to have the liner sprayed in first wait a week to make sure it was good and hard and then bring the truck in to have the hitch installed. They had no trouble installing the hitch after the liner. Sure did a nice clean job. My Superglide has the universal rail system that stays in the truck full time. I take the hitch and put it in the garage when not towing. Have not had any trouble with the rails or the spray in liner. Would suggest the spray in over the drop in liner.

harleyrider
10-31-2004, 12:04 AM
I had the hitch installed before I had the line-x sprayed in.when they did spray the bed they removed the hitch and reinstalled it.I love the line-x spray liner.Its very though stuff.i think its well worth the money.I plan on keeping this truck for quite a while and just wanted to do things the right way.Might be more expensive but I feel good about spending the extra money for the Line-x.

rehorner
10-31-2004, 12:11 AM
I got the Line-X liner when I first bought the truck a year ago and just had a hitch installed last week. There is no problem with this combo. The liner is very stable and fairly hard. It will not interfere with the hitch.
Go for it!

kdeiss
10-31-2004, 12:31 AM
The Bed rubber mat works fine for me.No need to do the liner for the few times I use the bed.

Countryfolks
10-31-2004, 04:55 AM
I cleaned up the holes myself. I think they were oversize enough to leave light coverage over the metal bared by drilling.

I believe the line-X installer said the liner is applied hot, dries within a few seconds and is cured in 24 hours. They should use tape with an inbedded wire to mask with, otherwise the liner is trimmed with a razor knife, not good. He also had a sample of the Rhino liner, it seemed a little softer, was thicker and had a different texture.
I think he said the colored stuff fades over time, just like the black.

I had mine done "over the rails" to protect the top edge of the bed.


Skip

exfuzz02
11-01-2004, 06:11 AM
I have had the LineX in 2 trucks now...the liner was installed prior to the hitch. The spray in liner does not allow moisture underneath like the drop in liner. [8D]

sreigle
11-01-2004, 08:09 AM
Re the comment about having the liner put over the rails. I agree with that but didn't need it. My Fords all came with bedrail caps. But if they didn't I'd have the liner sprayed there, too.

Glenn and Lorraine
11-01-2004, 12:03 PM
quote:Originally posted by sreigle

Glenn, I'd buy you a Rhino Liner or Line-X if you'd give me your superglide and mounting hardware! :)

Skip, good point about protecting the holes.


Gotta think on that one..................NOT

Glenn and Lorraine
11-01-2004, 12:25 PM
quote:Originally posted by tnorfitz

Glenn,
There are 2 ways to attach the Superglide to the truck. One is the way you stated, but it is more expensive than the universal hitch rails that attach to the truck bed. In using the less expensive attachment, there are 2 hitch rails, or brackets, that attach to the bed of the truck. The Superglide attaches to these hitch rails, or brackets. I received the free demo tape from Superglide, and it shows both the types of attachments. The attachment you described leaves a completely flat bed, but the less expensive attachment leaves 2 rails that are about 1 1/2 inches high.
I transport a Grizzly 4 wheeler in the back for snow removal purposes, and these 2 rails should not present a problem for the 4 wheeler.
For those of you who recommended attaching the hitch, then removing it to spray in the liner to seal the holes, would you have to redrill the holes to get the bolts to fit through the sprayed openings. Seems like you would have to drill back to the metal to get the bolts to fit through. Or are the holes drilled large enough to allow some filling of the Line-X in these holes?


Thanks Tina and Jim, I was not aware there was a hitch with rail system added. The Universal Mounting System was not available when I got my SuperGlide. But it would not have mattered as I wanted the SuperGlide I saw at the show with SuperRail Mounting System. I liked the idea of having nothing in the bed when the hitch was out. I first saw the Superglide at the same RV show where I bought the Montana. After the price haggling was done on the Montana and just before I signed my name I insisted the PullRite 16K SuperGlide be thrown in FREE. The dealer looked at the Montana rep, the rep thought for about 20 seconds and than agreed. I now think I should have held out for the spray in liner as well. Yeah well there is always the next rig.

tnorfitz
11-06-2004, 11:44 AM
Vikster,
Did the plastic plugs come with the Pullrite, or what did you use to fill in the holes?:)

vickster
11-06-2004, 12:56 PM
tnorfitz - First of all I made a mistake. We have a Drawtite hitch, not a Pullrite. Yes, the four plastic plugs came with the hitch. Hubby is really pleased with the rail-less system.

worknomore
11-06-2004, 04:06 PM
Have had Line-X in my last 2 trucks - great product & no problems. Lot easier on the knees than Rhino Lining when crawling around in the bed. Brother-in-law has Rhino in his Ford; said he would get Line-X next time.

Had the rails installed after the lining - no problem. Just touch up the scratches every year on the rails...

sreigle
11-06-2004, 04:46 PM
I said above mine has bedrails. Didn't realize until I read worknomore's post that I'm using the wrong terminology. Mine doesn't have raised rails, it has caps on the rails. Flat caps in some black vinyl or plastic material.