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Ozark Dave
02-10-2016, 03:17 PM
http://www.flickr.com/photos/44207014@N04/24855736321/in/dateposted-public/

Here is what my Trailer King tire looked liked before I removed all of them and replaced with 5 ST 235/85/16 Gladiator QR35-TR 14 ply G-Rated tires. There were actually two bulges, one on the inside of the tire as in the picture and one on the outside. The tires had about 12k miles and always properly inflated.

I heeded all of the warnings on this site and from the dealer and got these changed in the nick of time. If you have not changed yours please do so ASAP for all concerned.

Ozark Dave
02-10-2016, 03:20 PM
Looks like pic did not display. Here is a link to it. https://www.flickr.com/photos/44207014@N04/24855736321/in/dateposted-public/

Rondo
02-10-2016, 03:47 PM
Our Monte came with the Trailer Kings also and I told the dealer would not accept them because they were a safety hazard. He kind of looked at me weird and so I explained the situations that the series of "Chinabombs" that the manufactures were using on not just the Montes but a lot of the other brands too. He cut me a deal for G614's and has ordered his further units now with them.

Art-n-Marge
02-10-2016, 04:23 PM
I had a Mission tire (remember them? They are out of business now) that had a bulge similar to that, but the bubble was about in the middle of the sidewall, not near the rim like what's in that picture.

Since Mission was a Chinese tire brand (per the DOT tire code on the sidewall) and they are no longer in business, I just wonder if they changed their name to hide their identity. I use Maxxis now and treat my tires way better since I've learned so much from this forum. Of course, many in this forum will just say they tried to preach not using ST tires of any kind, but I'm liking my Maxxis just fine.

sambam
02-10-2016, 07:58 PM
Fortunate you caught it in time. Others don't. One of my Marathons had a bubble similar to that, but about the size of a baseball and in the middle of the sidewall. When I went to the tire dealer, he said it looked like a broken steel belt inside. I got some good credit toward the G614's I now run on.

1retired06
02-11-2016, 01:32 AM
I also refused delivery of our 2015 with trailer king tires. Keystone and other manufacturers should be ashamed using them on the heavier trailers. Many options out there for much better LT tires, short of G614s.

Chipf2
02-11-2016, 02:43 AM
Question: Why, after investing what we have in our Monty's, would we try to scrimp on the tires? I previously purchased brands other than the G614's basically because they were what the dealer had, and I did not know about this forum which has a wealth of knowledge based on experiences with "Chinabombs", weight issues, road hazards, etc. all of which lead to blowouts. The more I read, the more I'm learning, and I've pulled trailers of all kinds for many, many years.
Just askin? as food for thought.

DQDick
02-11-2016, 04:21 AM
Evolution: Missions, Marathons, Trailer Kings. Different names, same quality.

mlh
02-11-2016, 05:48 AM
I've been a member here since 2004. Tires have been the main topic for all the time since I've been a member. Run ST tires at your own risk. If you run them long enough they will get you. You can keep the properly inflated, not run over 65, never hit anything on the road and they will get you.
Lynwood

TLightning
02-11-2016, 01:08 PM
quote:Originally posted by mlh

I've been a member here since 2004. Tires have been the main topic for all the time since I've been a member. Run ST tires at your own risk. If you run them long enough they will get you. You can keep the properly inflated, not run over 65, never hit anything on the road and they will get you.
Lynwood


Agree, BTDT.

sambam
02-11-2016, 01:24 PM
quote:Originally posted by mlh
... Run ST tires at your own risk. If you run them long enough they will get you. You can keep the properly inflated, not run over 65, never hit anything on the road and they will get you.
Lynwood

This is exactly right. I thought if I did everything just right, no way it would happen to ME. Fool me once.......

WaltBennett
02-12-2016, 08:13 AM
quote:Originally posted by mlh

I've been a member here since 2004. Tires have been the main topic for all the time since I've been a member. Run ST tires at your own risk. If you run them long enough they will get you. You can keep the properly inflated, not run over 65, never hit anything on the road and they will get you.
Lynwood


Haven't been a member that long, but still agree with you. The other thing is how so few people check their tires age and change them out after 5 - 6 years, no matter what the mileage is.

Buffalochip
02-19-2016, 02:48 AM
ALL ST tires are made in China.

DarMar
02-19-2016, 08:31 AM
One by one people are learning.

mlh
02-19-2016, 01:45 PM
Rome wasn't built in a day.
Lynwood

jcurtis934
02-20-2016, 03:06 AM
To answer your question chipf2, most folks don't belong to the moc or any other forum where the chinese tire topic is educationaly discussed. Then there is also the very light fifth wheels that can run them, folks that only use the rv but a couple of weeks per year, some that can't afford better tires, and those that refuse to believe even if they were told of the probability of issues...or if they know are hoping to get by till they can change them out after 4 years. John

BB_TX
02-20-2016, 04:23 AM
And then there are those like a friend of mine (RIP) who replaced his Chinese Mission tires with Goodyear Marathon assuming they were US made since they were Goodyear. Wrong. No blowouts on his Missions, 2 on his Chinese Marathons.

kozzy
03-15-2016, 03:41 PM
ill be getting new tires seems the g614 are the way to go. I'm hoping to get one year out of the current ones, spent lot of money this year already on the brand new camper, I need a recharge year.

Rondo
03-15-2016, 05:39 PM
Ed(kozzy), Don't gamble on those tires that came on your new unit. They are a bomb just waiting to explode and the damage it can cause is a whole lot more money than the cost of buying those G614's. Go to the Search engine here at the top of the page and check out tire blowouts or other such subjects concerning tires and see what the damage can look like and the cost of the repairs.

GLS3950
03-16-2016, 01:35 AM
I had trailer Kings on a lighter SOB. 2Yrs and around 2000 miles, I had $4000 damage to the trailer.

1retired06
03-16-2016, 03:12 AM
quote:Originally posted by Rondo

Ed(kozzy), Don't gamble on those tires that came on your new unit. They are a bomb just waiting to explode and the damage it can cause is a whole lot more money than the cost of buying those G614's. Go to the Search engine here at the top of the page and check out tire blowouts or other such subjects concerning tires and see what the damage can look like and the cost of the repairs.


Most excellent advice!

sambam
03-16-2016, 02:28 PM
quote:Originally posted by kozzy

ill be getting new tires seems the g614 are the way to go. I'm hoping to get one year out of the current ones, spent lot of money this year already on the brand new camper, I need a recharge year.

I went through the same thought process 3 years ago. The dealer put shiny new Marathons on our new-to-us Montana. I didn't heed the warnings of the folks on this forum for the same reason you expressed. I did buy a TPMS though, so at least I'd know if and when the &$#& hit the fan. I got through that season, but found a bubble on the inside sidewall of one tire when we got home from our last trip that year. The camper never rolled on those tires again. I put the G614's on it the following spring. Now, we are weekend warriors and don't run too heavy, and I kept a close eye on the pressures (the TPMS helped), but I narrowly avoided a blowout. It's just not worth it. I'm only telling you this so you know you're not the first to make the decision you're making. Hopefully, you can get away with it, but I tend to agree with Rondo. Live and learn.

kozzy
03-16-2016, 04:11 PM
Already looking into pricing on replacing the factory tires with g614

kozzy
03-17-2016, 07:22 AM
So today, looking at my tires for the size, I noticed indentations in 3 out of the 4 tires. they are brand new, camper went from the dealer to my house.
Anyways, took pictures, went to camping world, they are going to get them replaced. im trying to get them to just give me a credit, so I can buy the g614s and pay the difference. Lets see what they can work out now...

sambam
03-17-2016, 04:14 PM
I hope they'll work with you. Nobody on here is typically doom and gloom. There are just too many unfortunate experiences documented here. They're not cheap, the G614's, but the peace of mind is priceless. Good luck.

kozzy
03-18-2016, 01:58 AM
I guess if I wanted cheap I wouldn't have bought a Montana hehehe
id rather be safe...hoping they call me today with some news I leave for flordia next month would like to have the tires all set before then

mlh
03-18-2016, 04:18 AM
Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it.
Lynwood