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Chipf2
12-27-2015, 09:24 AM
Second blowout resulted in destroyed wheel, brakes, possible axle/hub damage. Need to find a replacement wheel. Any suggestions are helpful.
FYI, Had upgraded the tires to G rated Hankooks, had 12,000 miles on them with very little wear showing, checked them at every stop, including pressure, then bam, in the middle of the NV dessert on a very cold Friday night. Had to remove the mountain of wires left from the tire wrapped around the axle, and in the hub,plus remove the breaks.
Happy traveling.

mlh
12-27-2015, 11:16 AM
Wow this is the first blowout I know of with G rated tires. Any idea what happened to them?
Lynwood

sapest
12-27-2015, 11:44 AM
Try Tredit for wheels, many posts on this site about them.

-Steve

DQDick
12-27-2015, 01:41 PM
Give these folks a call: http://www.tredittire.com/wheels
They sold them to Keystone in the first place. You may need to email them a picture of what you have to get a match.

Chipf2
12-27-2015, 02:58 PM
quote:Originally posted by mlh

Wow this is the first blowout I know of with G rated tires. Any idea what happened to them?
Lynwood
No idea what happened. Did not know one had blown until a sheriff's deputy pulled me over the kindly tell me. Bless him and the other state troopers who checked on us while I worked to change the tire.

Chipf2
12-27-2015, 03:03 PM
quote:Originally posted by DQDick

Give these folks a call: http://www.tredittire.com/wheels
They sold them to Keystone in the first place. You may need to email them a picture of what you have to get a match.
Thanks sapest and DQDick, I'll try them tomorrow. Have to work through discount for the tires, insurance company for the damage to the fender, a specialists to check the axle and do the brakes, and the wheel.

Hope this helps some new folks as well. I carry two spares just in case this stuff happens, and I promise it will, more than once.

Rondo
12-27-2015, 05:06 PM
Kind of sounds like you may need to invest in a tire monitoring system. Won't comment on the brand of tire you had blow out because I won't start anything here on the Forum to cause an uproar! I've put on the Goodyear G614's and have had no problems at all. They look like they are brand new yet and have put on about 12000 miles on them. There is some wearing on the outside and inside tread but that is the way they are made and are suppose to look. I keep mine at 105-110 lbs and check them with a laser temp gauge when I pull over to make pit stops, fuel or rest areas. I also check them prior to leaving and when I stop for the night to see if there is any damage from the road while going down our great highway systems across the US.

tanner1070
12-28-2015, 06:44 AM
If you could post a picture of you rim I might be able to help. I had a lost one of my rims this summer and couldn't replace it. Tredit didn't stock it anymore nor any of Keystone's suppliers, so I had to buy a new set of 4 rims. Kept one of the old rims for my spare but I have two more stock rims. Mine is a 2011 3580RL. Let me know.

mlh
12-28-2015, 10:51 AM
Tires are always one of our biggest topics and it's never about what great tires we have. It's always about blowouts. I think, know if I had 2 blowouts I would get did of those tires. If you gave had 2 blowouts you will have more. It's time for those tires to disappear.
Lynwood

Chipf2
12-30-2015, 05:45 AM
quote:Originally posted by tanner1070

If you could post a picture of you rim I might be able to help. I had a lost one of my rims this summer and couldn't replace it. Tredit didn't stock it anymore nor any of Keystone's suppliers, so I had to buy a new set of 4 rims. Kept one of the old rims for my spare but I have two more stock rims. Mine is a 2011 3580RL. Let me know.

Tanner, the 16" wheel style is T04, part number T0466867SM per Tredit. They said they do not make it anymore and do not have any in stock.http://www.montanaowners.com/attachments/photobucket/img_598147_0_ccc27bca82c8d9bd21c9260f3be7ca53.html ?filters[user]=144507647&filters[recent]=1&sort=1&o=1

Chipf2
12-30-2015, 06:19 AM
quote:Originally posted by mlh

Tires are always one of our biggest topics and it's never about what great tires we have. It's always about blowouts. I think, know if I had 2 blowouts I would get did of those tires. If you gave had 2 blowouts you will have more. It's time for those tires to disappear.
Lynwood
Mlh, Thank you for your comments. Without expanding the tire discussion, this blowout was from an upgrades set of tires, not the original OEM tires which had the first blowout. The first set did disappear. I chose these tires as we use them for our horse and cattle trailers in rough ranching country in West Texas and they have been the best we and the dealer have experienced. I will not buy Goodyears due to continuous tread separations with their Load Range E SRA tires. I had 5 tires separate on my truck (2012-2500HD)over one year, and Goodyear would only minimally prorate each tire.
I monitor each tire on a consistent basis-Temp & pressure. We travel about 20,000 miles a year cross country.
Pleasant travels.

Chipf2
12-30-2015, 06:25 AM
quote:Originally posted by Rondo

Kind of sounds like you may need to invest in a tire monitoring system. Won't comment on the brand of tire you had blow out because I won't start anything here on the Forum to cause an uproar! I've put on the Goodyear G614's and have had no problems at all. They look like they are brand new yet and have put on about 12000 miles on them. There is some wearing on the outside and inside tread but that is the way they are made and are suppose to look. I keep mine at 105-110 lbs and check them with a laser temp gauge when I pull over to make pit stops, fuel or rest areas. I also check them prior to leaving and when I stop for the night to see if there is any damage from the road while going down our great highway systems across the US.

Rondo, I chose these tires as we use them for our horse and cattle trailers in rough ranching country in West Texas and they have been the best we and the dealer have experienced. I will not buy Goodyears due to continuous tread separations with their Load Range E SRA tires. I had 5 tires separate on my truck (2012-2500HD)over one year, and Goodyear would only minimally prorate each tire.
I monitor each tire on a consistent basis-Temp & pressure. We travel about 20,000 miles a year cross country.

rohrmann
12-30-2015, 09:39 AM
I have a couple of questions. The first, are you sure those Hankook's are G rated? I just checked with my tire guy, and he said he has never seen a Hankook in that size and rating. Second, the question of monitoring. I am sure you are checking your tires often, but I think the discussion was asking if you are using a TPMS, so you have real time monitoring of the tire pressure and temperature as you are rolling down the road. If you had TPMS, your tire may have blown, but you would have known it blew almost instantly, and maybe before it blew, as the pressure may have been going down prior to the blowout.

If you are having to make a choice of replacing wheels and tires, this might be a good time to upgrade to 17 1/2 wheels and tires, which will give you a selection of H range tires to use.

Chipf2
12-30-2015, 02:07 PM
quote:Originally posted by rohrmann

I have a couple of questions. The first, are you sure those Hankook's are G rated? I just checked with my tire guy, and he said he has never seen a Hankook in that size and rating. Second, the question of monitoring. I am sure you are checking your tires often, but I think the discussion was asking if you are using a TPMS, so you have real time monitoring of the tire pressure and temperature as you are rolling down the road. If you had TPMS, your tire may have blown, but you would have known it blew almost instantly, and maybe before it blew, as the pressure may have been going down prior to the blowout.
If you are having to make a choice of replacing wheels and tires, this might be a good time to upgrade to 17 1/2 wheels and tires, which will give you a selection of H range tires to use.

Thanks for your questions and input. Yes, the tires are Hankook-Maxi Advantage radials 14 ply size 7.50R16LT. Have never had one blow on my gooseneck which we haul cattle with, have had excellent wear and durability until this one.
I do not have TPMS and will strongly consider a real time monitoring system. I really appreciate the suggestion. I also might consider the 17 1/2 wheels for H range tires.
Both great suggestions. We all are always learning, and what better way than sharing our experiences. Happy New Year.

DQDick
12-30-2015, 03:17 PM
I agree with the recommendation for using a TPMS and also with what you say about Hankooks. Ranchers around our home base in Kansas have used them for years and we used them on our pickups for years and have never had a problem. That said, a road hazard particularly metal in the road can kill any tire no matter which brand you prefer, that's why I have a TPMS that I use with my 614's.

Chipf2
12-30-2015, 03:31 PM
quote:Originally posted by DQDick

I agree with the recommendation for using a TPMS and also with what you say about Hankooks. Ranchers around our home base in Kansas have used them for years and we used them on our pickups for years and have never had a problem. That said, a road hazard particularly metal in the road can kill any tire no matter which brand you prefer, that's why I have a TPMS that I use with my 614's.

Thanks DQDick for your input regarding TPMS and the HanKooks.
All very appreciated input.
Happy New Year.

Chipf2
01-09-2016, 04:37 AM
A great big THANK YOU to Roger, a MOC member, who had two wheels that matched what I need. We agreed on a fair price, he had them sent to me, and the Hankooks, purchased from Discount Tire who are replacing the blown tire and the one in front of it because wires from the blown tire punctured it, are being installed today. Getting the brakes fixed on Tuesday with parts coming in on Monday.
Also will receive my new TPMS system on Monday.
All of the input through this forum has been so helpful. Thanks so much.

Dam Worker
01-09-2016, 06:39 AM
Glad that things are working out for you. Blow outs are not nice no matter what brand your running and it can and does happen to all brands. Hopefully you can get your unit fixed and get back to your travels.
The biggest thing is no one was injured, vehicles can be fixed.

Tom Marty

richfaa
01-09-2016, 07:19 AM
TMPS is a real good investment has saved the day for us 3 times in 10 years.

Twopetes
01-10-2016, 01:28 AM
Not going to get into the fray except to say I agree with the TPMS requirement (just installed mine), but I love this site. So much great discussion and support. This is why we are ecstatic to be part of the RV family. Chipf2 got what he needed and great discussion

Keep on Keep'in on folks!

Steve

mazboy
01-10-2016, 06:33 AM
chipf2 the g614s are great, sorry you have had problems with the other goodyear tires. get rid of the hnakook tires when you can, as for carrying 2 spares, i guess that is fine but i wouldn't have the room. even going to alaska you really only need one spare.

what specific hankook tire was it? i can't seem to fine g rated hankooks for 16 inch rims?

Chipf2
01-11-2016, 05:22 AM
quote:Originally posted by mazboy

chipf2 the g614s are great, sorry you have had problems with the other goodyear tires. get rid of the hnakook tires when you can, as for carrying 2 spares, i guess that is fine but i wouldn't have the room. even going to alaska you really only need one spare.

what specific hankook tire was it? i can't seem to fine g rated hankooks for 16 inch rims?

Chipf2
01-11-2016, 05:46 AM
mazboy, The Hankooks are 7.50R16LT 14 ply G rated. They are radial LT's and we have using them on our livestock trailers for several years with good experiences and no blow outs. See the comment from DQDick regarding them as well. They are rated for 3300 #'s, speed rated for 68 (K), which I really was not clear on when I got them. So they are kind of like an F rated tire rather than full G rated like the G614s. I am much more informed now regarding them, and still overall not dissatisfied with them. Had I had a TPMS system, and perhaps slowed down some (in to much of a hurry to get to the kids house for the Holidays), this would not have been such a big deal.
You won't find the tires on the Hankook website for some reason. I have about 12,000 miles on this set over the last 1 1/2 years, pulling the 5er around the country. From TX (North of DFW-have to be specific due to size of TX :)) west coast twice & back, TX to NE last winter & back, one tour of NM & back, and two trips to the TX valley & back.
So the good news is that Discount Tire was terrific, they paid to replace the blown tire, the tire in front of the blown tire, which had been punctured by the wires of the blown tire, and one of the other tires which they found had the belt starting to separate. I have four new tires on the ground (with the spare that I had never used) again. So....we'll monitor them, use them until we have additional issues, if we do, then look to replace them, but hopefully not have to deal with this again for a few years.
I have tried to include a lot of info into this thread so we can all share and learn from each other. All the input has been terrific and appreciated. Thanks to all.

Chipf2
01-16-2016, 05:17 AM
Update: I talked to the dealer, Discount, and they agreed to refund the cost of the damaged Hankooks (3 tires) and apply that to G614'3 and I had to buy one additional G614. Had the G614's installed yesterday.
Made this decision based upon all the input from all of you.
So, thanks to all of you four your help and sharing your experiences. We look forward to our next trip starting next Monday-about 2000 miles to the southwest. On to Florida in Feb.

Chipf2
01-16-2016, 05:19 AM
By the way, the price for the G614's was $312 per tire, plus tax. Bet price I have seen.