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Fordplus5er
06-22-2015, 02:45 PM
Do you folks like these tires? I'm going to put a new set on before our trip to the beach this September. What is the difference in the two Sailun: S637's on this page? http://simpletire.com/catalog?select=1&brand=83&query=catalog&width=235&ratio=85&rim=16 I'd like the GY G614's but don't see that happening for another year or two. Thanks for your opinions! :)

sambam
06-22-2015, 07:37 PM
These tires are getting good reviews by those that have bought them for their RV's. They haven't been around a real long time and there are skeptics. I will say that if I was in the market, I'd consider them strongly due to the cost savings over the G614. I have no idea what the difference is in the 2 tires on that page. The reviews look to be the same ones for each of them.

WaltBennett
06-23-2015, 01:05 AM
Only difference I can see is the tread design. What you really want is the lowest rolling resistance one, and that is also the cheaper one.

WeBeFulltime
06-23-2015, 02:18 AM
When I clicked your link I was given opportunity to chat with Simple Tire rep. If I were you I would chat with them and ask the difference besides the price. BTW, I plan to replace my Michelin LTs next year with these Sailuns unless they take a turn for the worse.

DQDick
06-23-2015, 07:29 AM
I've got about 4 more years before I replace my 614's and I'll be watching how these tires do the whole time. If they hold up as well over time, cost will rule.

awhite
06-23-2015, 10:42 AM
I have two years on them and no complaints

bshgto
06-23-2015, 10:55 PM
I have them and like the price and service for something that is just seasonal.I mean that`s a lot of plan B payments

Hooker
06-24-2015, 01:15 AM
quote:Originally posted by sambam

...They haven't been around a real long time and there are skeptics...

That would be me. Last month we had a blow out on the RF tire in our MH. The tire was a Goodyear 670RV, correct size for the weight, not old, properly inflated and going 60 (not speeding). For a few minutes, I had my hands full of motorhome. I don't know anything about these tires, but I do know I had problems with our Chinese made tires on our Montana. If they are Chinese, I would not buy them until they've been around for a while and have a proven good record.
Tires are no place to try to save a few bucks.

On edit...it is now about 12 hours since my original post. I sent an email to Sailun and asked where the tires are made. Their answer was China and a few in Vietnam.

PSFORD99
06-25-2015, 05:23 AM
quote:Originally posted by Hooker

quote:Originally posted by sambam

...They haven't been around a real long time and there are skeptics...

That would be me. Last month we had a blow out on the RF tire in our MH. The tire was a Goodyear 670RV, correct size for the weight, not old, properly inflated and going 60 (not speeding). For a few minutes, I had my hands full of motorhome. I don't know anything about these tires, but I do know I had problems with our Chinese made tires on our Montana. If they are Chinese, I would not buy them until they've been around for a while and have a proven good record.
Tires are no place to try to save a few bucks.

On edit...it is now about 12 hours since my original post. I sent an email to Sailun and asked where the tires are made. Their answer was China and a few in Vietnam.



There is no doubt that there are skeptics. I was a skeptic of the G614's , but five years ago they were just about the only game in town . I have had no problems with them in this five years, but I still read about failures with them .

Here is the thing about Sailun S637's, I have yet to read about a failure, has there been any, probably. The thing is you just keep hearing the positive about them.

I know we can get into this made in the USA thing, but thats not even a valid argument today. As I have said a couple times , all the Ford owners with the diesel would have to look elsewhere if they wanted to stay US , and thats just one example of the many many things we buy made somewhere besides the US .

NRA-Girl
06-28-2015, 03:21 AM
"I know we can get into this made in the USA thing, but thats not even a valid argument today.

I'm sorry but I don't agree with that statement and I hope that most others don't either. I think that's just defeatist and giving up.

I still try to buy American or partial American as much as I can. It sometimes takes work but I consider it my patriotic duty. When that fails I try to buy goods made by any one of our Allies. Sure my engine was assembled in Mexico. But lets be honest - it was assembled from a lot of American parts and supervised by an American company (Ford) My truck was built in the US and provides hundreds of good paying US jobs!

In any event, If this is my choice I'll gladly support a job in Mexico before I send money to China who is just going to use it all against us in the future. At least a job in Mexico helps to provide stability in our neighbor on our southern border and perhaps means one less person who needs to sneak in to the US.

I just got back from a trip to Yellowstone etc and blew two tires on my 5th wheel. On this - my first long trip - I learned the hard way that Montana uses cheap Chinese pieces of junk on their trailers. All to save a buck. So after the second tire went I realized what was going on and I put Goodyear 614 tires on the trailer. The rest of the way there and back went without tire issues. I didn't ask the tire guy if he could find me a good but cheaper foreign alternative.

I haven't spent a lot of time on this forum, but what I have seen is a recurring theme of people complaining how Montana uses cheap parts to save a buck. Then I see some posters doing the same thing that Montana supposedly is doing. Tires are arguably one of the most important safety parts of the trailer. Why would anyone look to do it "on the cheap"? I certainly don't. I want the best I can find.

BANOSML*



* Buy American Now Or Speak Mandarin Later

bshgto
06-28-2015, 12:26 PM
HmmmHmm

jimcol
06-29-2015, 07:43 AM
quote:Originally posted by NRA-Girl

"I know we can get into this made in the USA thing, but thats not even a valid argument today.

I'm sorry but I don't agree with that statement and I hope that most others don't either. I think that's just defeatist and giving up.

I still try to buy American or partial American as much as I can. It sometimes takes work but I consider it my patriotic duty. When that fails I try to buy goods made by any one of our Allies. Sure my engine was assembled in Mexico. But lets be honest - it was assembled from a lot of American parts and supervised by an American company (Ford) My truck was built in the US and provides hundreds of good paying US jobs!

In any event, If this is my choice I'll gladly support a job in Mexico before I send money to China who is just going to use it all against us in the future. At least a job in Mexico helps to provide stability in our neighbor on our southern border and perhaps means one less person who needs to sneak in to the US.

I just got back from a trip to Yellowstone etc and blew two tires on my 5th wheel. On this - my first long trip - I learned the hard way that Montana uses cheap Chinese pieces of junk on their trailers. All to save a buck. So after the second tire went I realized what was going on and I put Goodyear 614 tires on the trailer. The rest of the way there and back went without tire issues. I didn't ask the tire guy if he could find me a good but cheaper foreign alternative.

I haven't spent a lot of time on this forum, but what I have seen is a recurring theme of people complaining how Montana uses cheap parts to save a buck. Then I see some posters doing the same thing that Montana supposedly is doing. Tires are arguably one of the most important safety parts of the trailer. Why would anyone look to do it "on the cheap"? I certainly don't. I want the best I can find.

BANOSML*



* Buy American Now Or Speak Mandarin Later

Just remember the best you can find doesn't always depend on the price or place of orgin!

Irlpguy
06-29-2015, 09:26 AM
I believe what most people are missing regarding offshore vs made in the USA is Goodyear is an American company, they have chosen to set up a plant in China or at least contract to a plant in China to manufacture their Marathon trailer tires, China did not start producing and shipping a product with the Goodyear name on it on their own. So the fact is those tires can be produced in China or Mexico or wherever, along with many other brands for less money than they can be produced in the US. We cannot blame China for that but we can blame an American company for doing what they have done.

We also tend to forget that a very large portion of the tires sold as OEM or replacement tires for our cars and trucks are made offshore, some of those are excellent tires, as good or better than what is produced in America.

I have Firestone OEM tires on my truck, made in the USA, they are in my opinion low end tires and do not stand up well at all, I would not replace them with the same tire ever.

Also lost in our dislike/disdain for tires produced in China is that a lot of these tires provide good to excellent performance on trailers used in construction, farming and lighter RV's.

I believe the greatest problem is the installation of tires on a RV/Trailer that are at or near maximum capacity and that we insist on towing those trailers in excess of the speed rating along with improper inflation.

If you don't think G614's can and do fail, you are mistaken, they do, but are substantially heavier, have a higher speed rating and carry capacity, because they are not used for the most part on RV's in the volume of other tires we just don't have the same comparison.

If you want to sell a "widgit" and you want to be successful in your business and sell volume numbers, where are you going to produce that "widgit", will you try to produce them in America and fail miserably or will you seek to have them built offshore like most manufacturers are doing. We just cannot produce product for the same price, this takes away jobs and money earned and spent in America, simple but sadly true.

JMHO

TLightning
06-29-2015, 03:34 PM
The bottom line to me is that my OEM Chinese tires were junk. When I changed them, I opted for US made LT tires. The Chinese made tires still do not have a sterling reputation...until they do, I'll not be buying them.

PSFORD99
06-30-2015, 07:01 AM
quote:Originally posted by NRA-Girl

"I know we can get into this made in the USA thing, but thats not even a valid argument today.

I'm sorry but I don't agree with that statement and I hope that most others don't either. I think that's just defeatist and giving up.

I still try to buy American or partial American as much as I can. It sometimes takes work but I consider it my patriotic duty. When that fails I try to buy goods made by any one of our Allies. Sure my engine was assembled in Mexico. But lets be honest - it was assembled from a lot of American parts and supervised by an American company (Ford) My truck was built in the US and provides hundreds of good paying US jobs!

In any event, If this is my choice I'll gladly support a job in Mexico before I send money to China who is just going to use it all against us in the future. At least a job in Mexico helps to provide stability in our neighbor on our southern border and perhaps means one less person who needs to sneak in to the US.

I just got back from a trip to Yellowstone etc and blew two tires on my 5th wheel. On this - my first long trip - I learned the hard way that Montana uses cheap Chinese pieces of junk on their trailers. All to save a buck. So after the second tire went I realized what was going on and I put Goodyear 614 tires on the trailer. The rest of the way there and back went without tire issues. I didn't ask the tire guy if he could find me a good but cheaper foreign alternative.

I haven't spent a lot of time on this forum, but what I have seen is a recurring theme of people complaining how Montana uses cheap parts to save a buck. Then I see some posters doing the same thing that Montana supposedly is doing. Tires are arguably one of the most important safety parts of the trailer. Why would anyone look to do it "on the cheap"? I certainly don't. I want the best I can find.

BANOSML*



* Buy American Now Or Speak Mandarin Later




Thats some great rationalization . How many jobs do you think it cost american workers when ford went to Mexico. Probably the only reason they went to Mexico instead of China was shipping costs.

I am far from a defeatist , but there is a reality here if you haven't noticed . Maybe you have some solution you could share. For starters not buying that ford truck with the Mexican made motor . I hate to inform you ,but lost jobs on tires or motors, or regardless of country is lost jobs. Slice it anyway you like , but it comes up the same.

The key words here are " much as we can " until its something we want such as a Ford truck, then we go to rationalization.

Johnnyg
06-30-2015, 01:59 PM
I see them going for approximately 160 each shipped to your house. Compaired to the the marathons that most of us have already purchased, in my opinion you can't go wrong! I've had the sailuns on now for a little over two years and 5 thousand miles and they look like the day I mounted them.

NRA-Girl
07-02-2015, 11:39 AM
quote:Originally posted by PSFORD99


Thats some great rationalization . How many jobs do you think it cost american workers when ford went to Mexico. Probably the only reason they went to Mexico instead of China was shipping costs.

I am far from a defeatist , but there is a reality here if you haven't noticed . Maybe you have some solution you could share. For starters not buying that ford truck with the Mexican made motor . I hate to inform you ,but lost jobs on tires or motors, or regardless of country is lost jobs. Slice it anyway you like , but it comes up the same.

The key words here are " much as we can " until its something we want such as a Ford truck, then we go to rationalization.




Wow! It sounds like someone has their panties synched down too tight. Did not mean for you to lose bloodflow to the middle extremities. Its not good for the love life.

I honestly did not know that my Ford motor was made in Mexico. If I knew that I would have gone a different route and bought something different. Next time (if there is a next time) I will. I'm really not trying to rationalize anything. I try to buy as much American (or allied) as i can. Period. I honestly try to put my money where my mouth is. Am I perfect - No - . sometimes I actually buy something and then find out part of it was made elsewhere. Its part of the times that we live in. So please forgive me for that. I can only try to be better and count on you big boys to show me where I slip.

My point about Mexican jobs was simply that if the choice was between sending money to Mexico or China - I'll take Mexico anyway. I mean really..... China?????

Meanwhile loosen up those panties and take a blue pill to help restore some of that bloodflow. You will feel much better.

BANOSML

PSFORD99
07-02-2015, 06:16 PM
quote:Originally posted by NRA-Girl

quote:Originally posted by PSFORD99


Thats some great rationalization . How many jobs do you think it cost american workers when ford went to Mexico. Probably the only reason they went to Mexico instead of China was shipping costs.

I am far from a defeatist , but there is a reality here if you haven't noticed . Maybe you have some solution you could share. For starters not buying that ford truck with the Mexican made motor . I hate to inform you ,but lost jobs on tires or motors, or regardless of country is lost jobs. Slice it anyway you like , but it comes up the same.

The key words here are " much as we can " until its something we want such as a Ford truck, then we go to rationalization.




Wow! It sounds like someone has their panties synched down too tight. Did not mean for you to lose bloodflow to the middle extremities. Its not good for the love life.

I honestly did not know that my Ford motor was made in Mexico. If I knew that I would have gone a different route and bought something different. Next time (if there is a next time) I will. I'm really not trying to rationalize anything. I try to buy as much American (or allied) as i can. Period. I honestly try to put my money where my mouth is. Am I perfect - No - . sometimes I actually buy something and then find out part of it was made elsewhere. Its part of the times that we live in. So please forgive me for that. I can only try to be better and count on you big boys to show me where I slip.

My point about Mexican jobs was simply that if the choice was between sending money to Mexico or China - I'll take Mexico anyway. I mean really..... China?????

Meanwhile loosen up those panties and take a blue pill to help restore some of that bloodflow. You will feel much better.

BANOSML





I had to laugh ,that was great,but I really would like to know how you cinch up your panties . Well I assume you know ,but then I'm not sure how you swing, so thats up for debate.

Back to the program, I really would like to know what truck you would have bought if not Ford if you knew about the motor. Ram would be out its owned by Fiat . GM might be an option ,but doubtful . Your truck days may be over on the next one.

Anyway this debate if you will, will really go no where. I am done, get in the last word, and this can end.

PSFORD99
07-02-2015, 06:37 PM
quote:Originally posted by Johnnyg

I see them going for approximately 160 each shipped to your house. Compaired to the the marathons that most of us have already purchased, in my opinion you can't go wrong! I've had the sailuns on now for a little over two years and 5 thousand miles and they look like the day I mounted them.



I have asked several times about any failures, and to date have yet to hear of any. Many are running them.

WeBeFulltime
07-03-2015, 02:56 AM
Well, let's see. Ford engines from Mexico and I believe Ram is assembled there too. All that leaves is...............never mind. I'll NEVER get THAT desperate for a new ride!

Baaaaaaaaaaahahahahaha, Just kidding.

bigskyjimmy
07-03-2015, 08:03 AM
LMAO,that's funny even coming from a GM guy...GOOD one ,I would of posted a good Ford joke but I just posted that my GMC broke down ..RATS!:D quote:Originally posted by WeBeFulltime

Well, let's see. Ford engines from Mexico and I believe Ram is assembled there too. All that leaves is...............never mind. I'll NEVER get THAT desperate for a new ride!

Baaaaaaaaaaahahahahaha, Just kidding.

bshgto
07-08-2015, 01:33 PM
quote:Originally posted by NRA-Girl

quote:Originally posted by PSFORD99


Thats some great rationalization . How many jobs do you think it cost american workers when ford went to Mexico. Probably the only reason they went to Mexico instead of China was shipping costs.

I am far from a defeatist , but there is a reality here if you haven't noticed . Maybe you have some solution you could share. For starters not buying that ford truck with the Mexican made motor . I hate to inform you ,but lost jobs on tires or motors, or regardless of country is lost jobs. Slice it anyway you like , but it comes up the same.

The key words here are " much as we can " until its something we want such as a Ford truck, then we go to rationalization.




Wow! It sounds like someone has their panties synched down too tight. Did not mean for you to lose bloodflow to the middle extremities. Its not good for the love life.

I honestly did not know that my Ford motor was made in Mexico. If I knew that I would have gone a different route and bought something different. Next time (if there is a next time) I will. I'm really not trying to rationalize anything. I try to buy as much American (or allied) as i can. Period. I honestly try to put my money where my mouth is. Am I perfect - No - . sometimes I actually buy something and then find out part of it was made elsewhere. Its part of the times that we live in. So please forgive me for that. I can only try to be better and count on you big boys to show me where I slip.

My point about Mexican jobs was simply that if the choice was between sending money to Mexico or China - I'll take Mexico anyway. I mean really..... China?????

Meanwhile loosen up those panties and take a blue pill to help restore some of that bloodflow. You will feel much better.

BANOSML

Not quite sure about this one, maybe it`s just me

Mike117
07-08-2015, 03:11 PM
Wow, a lot of passion about tires. Everyone I appreciate the information. I have tow master and after reading all this tire stuff you all have scared the stuffing out of me. I purchase my 2014 HC from a buddy who used it three times. I am watching these tires like a hawk thank to all of you. I hope everyone doesn't get to passionate about tires to get upset. Thanks for the discussion and education. I have bought and done alot of different things because of all your knowledge. Thanks Mike

Fordplus5er
07-09-2015, 01:39 PM
Thanks for the "helpful" replies. Funny how a simple tire thread always turns into some passionate debate about this or that... and almost always strays from the OP's original question... not only at this forum but others as well. :D

TLightning
07-10-2015, 09:35 AM
quote:Originally posted by Fordplus5er

Thanks for the "helpful" replies. Funny how a simple tire thread always turns into some passionate debate about this or that... and almost always strays from the OP's original question... not only at this forum but others as well. :D


You ain't seen nothing yet...wait 'til we get to tow vehicles...again.:D

Williams19740
07-18-2015, 06:10 PM
I put these same tires on our 3750fl while we were in Florida picking up our camper. Drove from Florida to New Jersey with our average speed being 70 m.p.h in the 95°heat and they performed perfect. Tire monitor system said temps were never over 107°. Couldn't be happier with the tires.

rames14
07-31-2015, 06:12 PM
We had tire problems (fortunately no blow out, just flats) with our Big Sky. The problem went away after we switched to G614's. We ordered the Goodyear's on our new unit as well. But, being retired, we need to watch the budget. How is availability of Sailun's? Last year on our Alaskan trip, I knew I could find Goodyear's wherever I traveled. What about Sailun's? As stated earlier by Dick, we'll be watching over the next few years.

tweber502
08-01-2015, 02:34 PM
I am on a budget and am guilty of buying the Sailuns and so far I am very happy with them. They are a very heavy duty tire and I am actually getting a much smoother ride with them. I believe ANYTHING is better than the Marathons........Tim

Goin 4 Broke
08-10-2015, 11:38 AM
What is the speed rating on the Sailuns? If it is still 65mph like the ST Marathons it doesn't seem worth it to me. The Goodyears are 75 MPH?

rohrmann
08-10-2015, 03:26 PM
They are rated the same as the G614, 'L', which is 75 MPH.

Goin 4 Broke
08-17-2015, 02:46 PM
I am ready to pull the trigger and buy a set of these Sailuns based on the great advice above. Any suggestions on where to buy? Price I should expect to pay ? Also what have you all done with the Marathons, eBay or something?

vangoes
08-17-2015, 03:10 PM
Just replaced my marathons with these S637 tires for $186 ea. through our local Goodyear Tire dealer. They also gave me $30 ea. allowance for the marathons. I purchased Maxxis tires through this same dealer for my previous rig. He understands the concerns about the marathons and he never tries to push the G614's because of the price.

CaptEpsilon
08-18-2015, 05:12 AM
I put a set of 5 Sailun's on my 2014 3635RE after a Marabomb explosion w/damage to the coach about a month ago. Just got back from a 2500+ mile trip from Florida to Iowa. According to TPMS, pressure ranged from 119-124psi (from 105 "cold) and temps ranged from 98-105 (ambients were 80's to 103). Extremely happy with them. I got mine from Simpletire.com and paid about $155ish each shipped to my house. I then had a local semi truck place install them for around $50. Remember to replace your spare as well since the aspect ratio goes to 85 and you don't want to put an 80 ratio spare on with an 85 on the other end or you'll damage your axle.

Good luck!

rohrmann
08-18-2015, 07:29 AM
The different sizes will have no effect on the trailer axles. There is no moving shaft connecting the wheels as there is on a drive axle, so the slightly different spare could run just fine if needed.

mazboy
08-19-2015, 03:19 AM
nra girl, just a little to deep. you buy from our 'allies?' have you purchased anything lately from our ally Djibouti?

relax and enjoy your montana.

scott-pati
08-27-2015, 04:06 AM
quote:Originally posted by NRA-Girl

"I know we can get into this made in the USA thing, but thats not even a valid argument today.

I'm sorry but I don't agree with that statement and I hope that most others don't either. I think that's just defeatist and giving up.

I still try to buy American or partial American as much as I can. It sometimes takes work but I consider it my patriotic duty. When that fails I try to buy goods made by any one of our Allies. Sure my engine was assembled in Mexico. But lets be honest - it was assembled from a lot of American parts and supervised by an American company (Ford) My truck was built in the US and provides hundreds of good paying US jobs!

In any event, If this is my choice I'll gladly support a job in Mexico before I send money to China who is just going to use it all against us in the future. At least a job in Mexico helps to provide stability in our neighbor on our southern border and perhaps means one less person who needs to sneak in to the US.

I just got back from a trip to Yellowstone etc and blew two tires on my 5th wheel. On this - my first long trip - I learned the hard way that Montana uses cheap Chinese pieces of junk on their trailers. All to save a buck. So after the second tire went I realized what was going on and I put Goodyear 614 tires on the trailer. The rest of the way there and back went without tire issues. I didn't ask the tire guy if he could find me a good but cheaper foreign alternative.

I haven't spent a lot of time on this forum, but what I have seen is a recurring theme of people complaining how Montana uses cheap parts to save a buck. Then I see some posters doing the same thing that Montana supposedly is doing. Tires are arguably one of the most important safety parts of the trailer. Why would anyone look to do it "on the cheap"? I certainly don't. I want the best I can find.

BANOSML*



* Buy American Now Or Speak Mandarin Later



Couldn't have said it any better!!!
welcome to the forum, NRA-Girl!

scott-pati
08-27-2015, 04:13 AM
quote:Originally posted by Fordplus5er

Thanks for the "helpful" replies. Funny how a simple tire thread always turns into some passionate debate about this or that... and almost always strays from the OP's original question... not only at this forum but others as well. :D



On this forum tires, trucks and dually or no dually are just some of the topics that get pretty heated up on here. What gets me is how nasty it can get.

vangoes
08-27-2015, 07:23 AM
Just a little fuel for thought for the OP. How is it determined that the G 614's are "better" than the Sailuns? After being a member of several forums since 2006 I have never read of a blowout with the Sailun G rated tire. I cant say the same about the G 614.

scott-pati
08-27-2015, 11:52 AM
What causes a blowout anyway? Do you have stats on what cause it. To say the G614 has had blowouts vs Sailun or any tire is meaningless. Was the cause lack of maintenance, age, flat spots from sitting to long and not having proper inflation, or driving faster then the recommend speed of that tire, hitting curbs/pot holes etc.

The point here is do the Chinese make a good tire? The general consensus on this forum is no. Are the Sailuns any better vs G614's? Probably not. But are they holding up with no blowouts? IMHO to early to tell. They very well could be the true bargain when compared to G614.

I went with the G614 because I did not want to take a chance on a Chinese tire again. All tire brands have blowouts at some point and more brands than others, that's why we are here, on this forum so as to share our experiences. Sometimes you have to take others opinions with a grain of salt.

This is starting to get ugly. People, lets chill out...... GEEEEEZZZZ.

vangoes
08-27-2015, 04:25 PM
It has been summed up....it is iyho and everybody has one. Without fact, one will have to go the way they are comfortable with. Both the g614 and the s637 have been around for a while and both are used on commercial vehicles. Go the way that will let you sleep at night!

PSFORD99
08-28-2015, 05:34 AM
quote:Originally posted by scott-pati

What causes a blowout anyway? Do you have stats on what cause it. To say the G614 has had blowouts vs Sailun or any tire is meaningless. Was the cause lack of maintenance, age, flat spots from sitting to long and not having proper inflation, or driving faster then the recommend speed of that tire, hitting curbs/pot holes etc.

The point here is do the Chinese make a good tire? The general consensus on this forum is no. Are the Sailuns any better vs G614's? Probably not. But are they holding up with no blowouts? IMHO to early to tell. They very well could be the true bargain when compared to G614.

I went with the G614 because I did not want to take a chance on a Chinese tire again. All tire brands have blowouts at some point and more brands than others, that's why we are here, on this forum so as to share our experiences. Sometimes you have to take others opinions with a grain of salt.

This is starting to get ugly. People, lets chill out...... GEEEEEZZZZ.



Well I sure disagree , I quote : Was the cause lack of maintenance,age, flat spots from sitting too long ,and not having proper inflation , or driving faster then the recommended speed of that tire , hitting curbs/ pot holes etc.

Both tires are subject to your quote, does one brand of tire get more abuse then the other, no. Do some take care of their tires better then others ,sure they do, they swear up ,and down that they were properly inflated etc etc ect. You hear it all the time , yet here they are on a forum with a blowout . The reviews are well documented on the G614's, they are a problematic tire.

Here is where the difference lies with the Sailun, they are subject to the same abuse as any other tire, yet where are all the bad reviews, at this point there are none to speak of . How many years do they have to be on the market when we quit hearing , and I quote: IMHO to early to tell. Just curious on this ,again how many years does it take . The years are piling up .

We also keep getting this: Have had excellent service from G614's, would buy another set. Well I can echo that I am currently running G614's without issue. So I guess I should ignore all the bad reviews, I haven't had a problem, and why should anybody else. G614's have a history, and some of it not so great. Big problem until now they were the only game in town, well thats not true anymore.