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PSFORD99
05-31-2015, 03:59 AM
The majority here seem to be pretty skeptical about the Sailun tires. Seems to be a G614 crowd .There is a thread on the fifth wheel forum on RV Net about Sailun tires , not a single negative reply, nor have I been able to find one. I have been researching these tires for awhile now . I have about year left on my G614's , and the price for new G614's are getting outrageous. Sailun will be my next tire on my fifth wheel , and at nearly 400-500 dollars per set cheaper, and getting better reviews then Goodyear has ever had.

I have said this before ,but we are paying for insurance on these Goodyear tires so when they blow up Goodyear will pay for damage to the trailer. Granted the failures seem to be less then a few years ago. I have insurance I don't need an extra $100.00 plus per tire .

Some seem skeptical that they would be hard to find if having to replace. They are available online with fast shipping if not found locally. Here in Utah I called Big O tires, and they had them in stock, and available when wanted. As this tire becomes more popular I have to think they will become even more available. Anyway the G614's are no longer the only game in town.

DQDick
05-31-2015, 04:10 AM
I don't think there's much disagreement with you at this point. Some of us are just waiting to see if, when they become more used, will they pass the test of time.

JandC
05-31-2015, 04:21 AM
I ran G614's on my first Montana. I purchased it used and the previous owner already had a new set on it. He was a retired over-the-road truck driver and he swore by them. They served me well so when I purchased my new unit I had them added to the deal at the discounted price of $1,000 for five of them.

So I have never paid $320 plus per tire for them but have had the pleasure of putting over 30,000 miles of care free towing using them. During that 30,000 miles I have probably passed 100 other RV's sitting on the side of the road with flat tires.

I don't totally disagree with what you are saying, but I also will wait until there are hundreds of folks that have towed 15,000 pound plus fivers over several years with the Sailun tires before I get too excited.

WeBeFulltime
05-31-2015, 05:11 AM
quote:Originally posted by JandC



So I have never paid $320 plus per tire for them but have had the pleasure of putting over 30,000 miles of care free towing using them. During that 30,000 miles I have probably passed 100 other RV's sitting on the side of the road with flat tires.




How many of those sitting on the side of the road can you verify had Sailun tires that blew out?

My next tires (in about 1 year) will be Sailuns.

jhudson
05-31-2015, 05:56 AM
quote:Originally posted by PSFORD99

The majority here seem to be pretty skeptical about the Sailun tires. Seems to be a G614 crowd .There is a thread on the fifth wheel forum on RV Net about Sailun tires , not a single negative reply, nor have I been able to find one. I have been researching these tires for awhile now . I have about year left on my G614's , and the price for new G614's are getting outrageous. Sailun will be my next tire on my fifth wheel , and at nearly 400-500 dollars per set cheaper, and getting better reviews then Goodyear has ever had.

I have said this before ,but we are paying for insurance on these Goodyear tires so when they blow up Goodyear will pay for damage to the trailer. Granted the failures seem to be less then a few years ago. I have insurance I don't need an extra $100.00 plus per tire .

Some seem skeptical that they would be hard to find if having to replace. They are available online with fast shipping if not found locally. Here in Utah I called Big O tires, and they had them in stock, and available when wanted. As this tire becomes more popular I have to think they will become even more available. Anyway the G614's are no longer the only game in town.

I agree with you. I would not pay the price for the G614's and just bought 4 Sailun S637 from Simple Tire on May 1, 2015. Shipped to my house for $710.13. That is $177.53 per tire! I too searched and could not find a negative review and made the purchase. I have traveled only 500 miles on them so far but I really do like them. Let me tell you, they are a beefy tire.

We are making a 6000 mile trip down south to Texas up to Colorado then slowly making over way back to New Hampshire. I feel much better with the Sailun S637 mounted.

By the way, all four balanced up very well. Very little weight on any of them.

I will report back with a report when we get back as we will be travelling in some very hot conditions.

Hopefully all goes well and I can tell you that I am not worried about the tires anymore.

jcurtis934
05-31-2015, 07:05 AM
It is always nice to hear of new tire options, whether we choose to go that route or not. For me, going from load range e to g was not even considered as the choices are too few and the specs aren't all that different. My opinion and I am happy that I jumped to range h wheels and tires. Money outlayed greater...yes...but what is your outlay if you have to spend many thousands on trailer repairs or hospital bills? Life is life, choices are many, can't take it with you...best to live each day for that day with as few worries as possible. Here's to people expressing their opinions freely and openly on the forum. John

jimcol
05-31-2015, 07:39 AM
My tire guy has the highest praise for Sailun. Said he has sold a ton of them to construction guys with big trailers for construction equipment. Never had one with issues. If I ever need another tire for the 5'er it will be my choice unless reviews go south in the next 3 or 4 years. Jim

bigskyjimmy
05-31-2015, 07:40 AM
PSFORD99 got to agree with ya on that one ,while G614's have a proven track record and are a great tire ,BUT there are other options that are proving themselves to be a another great choice like Saliun S637 and Geostar G574's for a lot less Cash

CalandLinda
05-31-2015, 07:50 AM
Some of the Heartland trailers have OEM Sailun tires and others are offered with the Sailuns as options.

Sometimes the best feedback about trailer tires is how they are working as OEM. Here is a link.

https://www.heartlandowners.org/showthread.php/51624-Sailun-Tires?p=414896

Cal

lostshakerofsalt
05-31-2015, 10:45 AM
Some people vote with their pocketbook while I prefer to have my $ stay in the US. The only motivation Sailun has for pricing the tire so low is to put American tire workers out of work.

I too have insurance. With over 50000 miles on multiple sets of G614s, I have only had one issue with a G614 (tread separation). Goodyear made me whole and covered the new tire and damage 100% (over $1200 for new tire and damage). Using my insurance I would have paid the first $500 out of my pocket and then most likely my rates would have started going up.

If the Sailun S637 proves to be serious competition to G614s, we could see Goodyear doing some pricing adjustments in the future. Also with the price of oil down as it is, we might see some better pricing as time goes by.

WaltBennett
05-31-2015, 10:51 AM
Well, when we bought our new/used Montana two+ years ago, I read all the posts about Marabombs. Although our previous TT had them and they were trouble free, it didn't weigh anywhere near as much. I knew keeping them was not an option, but choked at the price of Gs. Went with Firestone Transforce LTs instead and have been totally satisfied with the value, quality and everything else about them. Only have about 15k miles on them, but they're going strong. Going out to CA in a couple of months and adding another 6k or so. What I love about LT tires is that at 5 years of life, I won't have to take out a bank loan to replace them. Age coupled with load is what I believe is the big tire killer.

sambam
05-31-2015, 04:39 PM
quote:Originally posted by WeBeFulltime

quote:Originally posted by JandC



So I have never paid $320 plus per tire for them but have had the pleasure of putting over 30,000 miles of care free towing using them. During that 30,000 miles I have probably passed 100 other RV's sitting on the side of the road with flat tires.

How many of those sitting on the side of the road can you verify had Sailun tires that blew out?

My next tires (in about 1 year) will be Sailuns.



I don't think Joe was implying that all those flats were on Sailuns. My take on his post was that none of those campers on the side of the road with tire issues was him, that he was happy to have G614's and the security they provide.
I'm also in the wait-and-see camp. I feel Goodyear G614's are way overpriced, but maybe they WERE the only game in town. Not anymore. By the time I wear through this set, the GeoStars and Sailuns of the world will have made their mark. At the least, there is competition and maybe GY will adjust their pricing accordingly. Almost 4 bills a tire is ridiculous.

bshgto
05-31-2015, 10:20 PM
I went with the Sailuns at $750.00 last year. The only thing I`ve noticed that`s different is I haven`t had to add any air sense I`ve put them on. ???

awhite
06-01-2015, 12:41 AM
This will be the third year on my Sailuns and no sign problems

JandC
06-01-2015, 02:33 AM
quote:Originally posted by WeBeFulltime

quote:Originally posted by JandC



So I have never paid $320 plus per tire for them but have had the pleasure of putting over 30,000 miles of care free towing using them. During that 30,000 miles I have probably passed 100 other RV's sitting on the side of the road with flat tires.





How many of those sitting on the side of the road can you verify had Sailun tires that blew out?

My next tires (in about 1 year) will be Sailuns.


I wouldn't have any idea what brand of tires they were. Some could have even been G614's for all I know.

What I do know is that a properly matched and inflated G614 tire on my Montana has kept me safe and off the side of the road for all my traveling miles.

PSFORD99
06-01-2015, 06:47 AM
quote:Originally posted by lostshakerofsalt

Some people vote with their pocketbook while I prefer to have my $ stay in the US. The only motivation Sailun has for pricing the tire so low is to put American tire workers out of work.

I too have insurance. With over 50000 miles on multiple sets of G614s, I have only had one issue with a G614 (tread separation). Goodyear made me whole and covered the new tire and damage 100% (over $1200 for new tire and damage). Using my insurance I would have paid the first $500 out of my pocket and then most likely my rates would have started going up.

If the Sailun S637 proves to be serious competition to G614s, we could see Goodyear doing some pricing adjustments in the future. Also with the price of oil down as it is, we might see some better pricing as time goes by.



I think we would all prefer to keep our dollars in the US , but thats a pretty tall order . I would have to guess the Sailun tires have a pretty small impact on Goodyear. If there is any significant impact, as you said , Goodyear would start being more competitive . So far all they have done is raise prices to the outrageous.

How many jobs do you think were lost in the US when Ford farmed out the 6.7 diesel motor to Mexico, in order to put in your 2014 Superduty . Bottom line here is if you want to keep all your dollars in the US, you probably are not going to be purchasing what you want , and that would include that Ford truck.

As far as insurance goes rates are questionable. I turned in a couple claims in a year period, all that happened was they raised my deductible, and it went down after a couple years with no claims. You had a failure that caused damage with a Goodyear tire, they paid, thats great. I would just as soon have a tire that does not have that one failure , and puts me to the side of the road. So far Sailun has proved to be a much more dependable tire then Goodyear .

mail2us
06-01-2015, 02:37 PM
Many have posted on this thread to "wait and see" which I tend to go along with. We have GY 614's and have been very satisfied.

Talking to Tredit who supply tires to the RV industry, indicate that
some RV companies are going to the Sailun S637. I believe Heartland is one. That expansion of product will give many of us a better understanding of the product. Good luck to many who have purchased them. They sound like a good product.

mlh
06-01-2015, 02:52 PM
Tell us more about these tires. How much do they weigh as compared to the G and LT tires. The warranty who makes them.
Lynwood

Johnnyg
06-02-2015, 04:17 AM
We installed the S637 tires October, 2013. Since then we logged approximatly 4000 miles and they look like new. I've only added air one time at the beginning of the camp season. I do notice slight wear on one tire on the right side which I'm pretty sure is more trailer than tire. It took very little weight to balance them. Someone mentioned weight of the tire. If I recall the S637 was very close to the G614 and over 20 lbs heavier each that the Marathons I replaced! Looks like the price has come down since I bought them and at the moment would hesitate to get them again.

lostshakerofsalt
06-02-2015, 08:29 AM
Thank you for the information PSFORD99. When I purchased my 2014 Ford I was not aware that the engine is manufactured in Mexico. However, it is still Ford. Mexico is not Communist China. I did not knowingly purchase a communist country's product. Of course by your rationalle eventually everything will be made in Communist China. I prefer to support US manufacturers where possible.

Now let us look at the economics of the G614 vs. the S637. Assume the set of tires last 30,000 miles. This is realistic since I actually got ~40,000 on my last set. Let us say the price for 4 G614s is $1204 (found them for $300.99 each online), that works out to $0.040133/mile (approximately) vs. $636 for 4 S637s (I found them online for $159/tire). That works out to $0.0212/mile. For that little difference I am sticking with G614s and maybe saving a manufacturing capability in this country.

Art-n-Marge
06-03-2015, 08:24 PM
My newest tire purchase was Maxxis. One year of fulltiming but not traveling far from home and all is still good. I just wanted to remind others that there is another possible alternative to a Sailun for a lower price that G614s.

One oddity is that when I installed these they used Nitrogen, but after each trip the psi was less than the 80 psi I typically use. However, now after about the sixth month, and refilling with my regular pancake compressor, I no longer have to refill them. Go figure. Not complaining, mind you, but it seems weird that when the tires were filled with nitrogen upon purchase, I had to refill air prior to traveling, but about 6 months later no more refilling and the psi has been real solid at 80 psi. We are now approaching 12 months (June 15) and I haven't put air in the tires since about December. I thought it could be the cold, but the first few months were hot, then we had a mild winter and the weather is still relatively mild and no change in psi. Nevertheless, I'll keep checking before each 1 to 3 week travel. session.

Champ_49
06-14-2015, 02:46 AM
My SOB came with Sailuns on it. Ran them well over 30,000 miles and never a problem. I changed them out because they were 5 yrs. old and not because they showed wear. I replaced them with the Goodyear G614 because it seemed the right thing to do. Now I wonder why? Never even questioned or priced the Sailuns, was just hell bent on G614's. Time will tell.

Dave

I should add that my 5th wheel is a 16,000 lb. trailer.

PSFORD99
06-14-2015, 06:12 PM
quote:Originally posted by Champ_49

My SOB came with Sailuns on it. Ran them well over 30,000 miles and never a problem. I changed them out because they were 5 yrs. old and not because they showed wear. I replaced them with the Goodyear G614 because it seemed the right thing to do. Now I wonder why? Never even questioned or priced the Sailuns, was just hell bent on G614's. Time will tell.

Dave

I should add that my 5th wheel is a 16,000 lb. trailer.



I too am running G614's , and have had no issues . I got 5 years on them now, plan to run them one more year, and replace them with the Sailun.

Mr Pachu
08-10-2016, 06:36 PM
In Sk. Canada where I live, G614's at the cheapest Goodyear dealer is $2,200.00 complete installed, balanced, metal valve stems, and all fees and taxes. Sailun 637's are $862.00 total. For me it's an easy decision, S637's are going on Monty tomorrow. They are cheaper and have to be better than the Trailer Kings that are on Monty right now.

PSFORD99
08-11-2016, 04:31 PM
quote:Originally posted by Mr Pachu

In Sk. Canada where I live, G614's at the cheapest Goodyear dealer is $2,200.00 complete installed, balanced, metal valve stems, and all fees and taxes. Sailun 637's are $862.00 total. For me it's an easy decision, S637's are going on Monty tomorrow. They are cheaper and have to be better than the Trailer Kings that are on Monty right now.



IMO a good choice, and a better tire then the G614's. the Sailuns sure have a better track record so far.