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woodman
09-30-2014, 01:52 AM
After reading so many negative reports regarding the Marathons, I'm making a change before our long trip. I know many of you have recommended the more expensive G614's, however; many have also recommended other quality, but less expensive replacements. We have a 2013 Monty and the rim will allow a 235/85 R16, I just wanted to hear your other recommendations. Someone in the MOC forum reported that they had a whole list, but I couldn't find it. With so many different manufacturers and the laundry list of tires available, it gets confusing as to which ones are appropriate for a 5th wheeler.

1retired06
09-30-2014, 02:29 AM
We have been more than happy with Firestone TransForce LT tires.

DQDick
09-30-2014, 03:23 AM
Different Montana's weigh differently. Some are very heavy and some not so much. You need to know the actual weight of your rig with all your stuff inside and then get tires that can handle your weight. What works well for others is only a starting place, then the homework starts. One thing to consider is that the only thing between the rig and the ground is those tires. Not just going down the road, but parked for long periods of time, particularly if you store it all winter. With that in mind the G614's didn't look all that expensive to some of us.

Loui
09-30-2014, 03:32 AM
Check your trailers weight rating.Some of the heavier trailers need to go with G614's
I've been using LT rated tires for 8 years have had no issues.
I changed them again last year to Duravis R500 because the old tires were starting to crack with age.
Here's a list with some budget costs. Canadian prices but you'll get the idea

LT235/85R16E

1. Michelin XPS Rib - $314.00 each.
2. Bridgestone Duravis R250 - $250.00 each.
3. Bridgestone Duravis R500 - $206.00 each.
4. Firestone Transforce H/T - $162.00 each.
5. BF Goodrich Commercial T/A - $188.00 each


HTH

scattershot
09-30-2014, 04:42 AM
I have used the Commercial T/A with excellent results. I'm thinking of putting them on my TV next time around.

sambam
09-30-2014, 06:21 AM
Lots of people here like to use the LT tires for their campers. It's an alternative to the expensive G614's. The load rating for the LT's is 3042. My axles are 7k, so that number doesn't compute for me. There is reserve capacity on LT tires, which apparently are speed rated at 106 mph, so the thinking is while traveling at normal speeds 60-70, there is more support under the trailer. At least that's how I understand it. There is also the consideration, mentioned above, about weighing your Montana and getting actual loaded-for-travel numbers. Most of us weekenders don't travel at full GVW, so an LT tire is a reasonable alternative. I'm sure I could have gotten by with these tires, but decided to go with G614's because they are rated above my axle capacity, giving me that peace of mind, and Goodyear gave me credit toward my Marathons. There are other G rated tires out there that are less pricey than the 614's. You can find plenty of information on this site about tires.

bigskyjimmy
09-30-2014, 08:06 AM
More and More of us are also going with Geostar LT G574 235/86/16 with a rating of #3750 I have 2 other SOB friends with them and they like them as well, Just another Option for ya, After trading in my Marathon's they cost me 900 bucks for all 4 including mounting and tax out the door

waynemoore
09-30-2014, 08:36 AM
I have a 2015 3582RL that I put Bridgestone Duravis R250 on when new. The tire store gave me $75.00 each for the Trail king it came with. My out the door price was $225.each.
I weighed the rig, and my loaded trailer axel (both axels) is 11,265lbs. When I say loaded we had been traveling for 2 weeks and the frig and pantry were fully stocked. Fresh water tank half full, black and gray thanks never empty. So the tires are good for this rig even though it can weigh out at 167000lbs. Of course that includes the pin weight of about 2600lbs. I guess we pack light but with the 10% safety factor built into the LT tires I feel much safer that with the ST tires. One more thing I NEVER drive over 65MPH and keep the tires at 80 psi. JMHO.

lunalonestar
10-01-2014, 05:10 AM
We just installed a set of 4 Bridgstone Duravis R250 at Discount Tire, Ft. Collins, CO at $215 each 4 weeks ago.

RichR
10-01-2014, 11:02 AM
Put Carlisle Load range F tires on this summer-Discount tire-seem OK so far,trailer scales close to 15,000 so went to heavy load tire.3960
carry cap.

mazboy
10-02-2014, 05:41 AM
whatever tire you get make sure your wheel holds the higher air pressure. some wheels are only rated at 80psi

Tom S.
10-05-2014, 03:21 AM
Before you look at any tire, get your rig weighed! See my post here: http://www.montanaowners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60713

HOOK
10-05-2014, 08:09 AM
G614s peace of mind.

Bill and Bobbi
11-30-2014, 01:08 PM
A late post on this thread...how do you tell what the pressure rating is on your rims? I'm running 235/80R 16's on factory wheels/rims.

Ozz
11-30-2014, 01:49 PM
Bill & Bobbi, it should be stamped on your rims

DQDick
11-30-2014, 02:42 PM
quote:Originally posted by Bill and Bobbi

A late post on this thread...how do you tell what the pressure rating is on your rims? I'm running 235/80R 16's on factory wheels/rims.


You will probably have to crawl under it's normally stamped on the inside.

Bill and Bobbi
12-01-2014, 01:52 PM
thanks, I have one off the rig already from a blow out last weekend. :-( Looking for replacement tires now...

Bill and Bobbi
12-03-2014, 03:12 PM
I never did see the psi rating on the wheel. Found made in china on it though. Wheel has the size and max load 3042# and some other stuff but not max psi. I am assuming the max load 3042 will correspond to 80 psi. This is a stock wheel on a 3400RL.
After reading tons on bad ST tires I am wondering which way to go. I have been running westlake 235/80 16 ST tires(made in China).They are rated for 3527# at 80 psi. I got the first 2 by necessity when I lost 2 missions on a trip, then matched the other 2 soon after. They are almost 5 years old so probably should have been replaced.They had low miles and looked fine. The tread separated 15 minutes into the trip last weekend.

bigskyjimmy
12-03-2014, 03:43 PM
What year is your 3400RL Bill?, I do believe they started using rims that can handle 110 PSI in 2010- 2011??? my 2012 3402 had 110psi rims and I put 110 psi G rated 14 ply tires on them and glad I did as well as my even heavier 2015 Monty

8.1al
12-03-2014, 04:04 PM
If the wheels are rated for a max load of 3042 then they are only rated for 80psi

rohrmann
12-03-2014, 04:22 PM
If he has 3042 lb rated wheels, that means he has 6,000 lb axles, so he could use LT truck tires instead of ST trailer tires, and he would have a wide selection of tires with those specs.

Bill and Bobbi
12-04-2014, 12:01 AM
My 3400RL is a 2006. This will be my 3rd set of tires since new.

Ozz
12-04-2014, 01:58 AM
Yes, 80# rims, get new rims and the G614 tires, that will solve your tire issues. Be aware that the G614's wear on the inside and outside of the tread, but stop wearing after the initial rub-off caused by parking lot flexing.

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https://picasaweb.google.com/Jimsue13/20121012TiresWearPattern?authuser=0&feat=directlink
1500 miles, proper pressure and alignment OK equal wear inside tread and outside.

Happycamperscolorado
12-09-2014, 04:28 AM
after reading these topics the 1st thing i will be doing is replacing the marathons on the new rv with g614 if the rims can handle it on a 2010 3400rl. have to check the rims out when we pick it up this weekend

Ozz
12-09-2014, 04:34 AM
Your 2010 should be Ok as far as the rims go. Good luck, and you have made a good decision.
If you seek any professional experienced tire information, give LonnieB a shout, he manages a tire shop in Clovis New Mexico, (Tire Country / Tire Pros - General Manager) he is a valued member and friend of the MOC.

waynemoore
12-09-2014, 04:38 AM
If you have 80lb rims a good trire is the Bridgestone Derivat. I put them on my 3582RL and love them. Also I got $75.00 credit for my Trailkings at Discount Tires. Just saying.

twindman
12-09-2014, 06:36 AM
I have a 362 Mountaineer. I weighed axles separately and the front was 5500 and rear 5700 or so (My trailer rides high in front.). So my tires (3402 load) are good, but may be pushing the limit on the back, as one side may be heavier than the other.

troutbum53
01-03-2015, 05:52 AM
We have a 2014 3155RL, (and love it!).....I am wanting (needing) to upgrade the tires. We only have about 1500 miles on our new unit, but I am worried about the factory tires (Marathon's). We are not full timers, but we make one trip a year that is about 2000 miles round trip, everything else is under 400 mile round trip. I know the G614's are probably the best thing to get, but I was wondering about other tire options that would be a good reliable alternative. All help is appreciated ....thanks....[8D]

Tom S.
01-03-2015, 11:52 AM
quote:Originally posted by troutbum53

We have a 2014 3155RL, (and love it!).....I am wanting (needing) to upgrade the tires. We only have about 1500 miles on our new unit, but I am worried about the factory tires (Marathon's). We are not full timers, but we make one trip a year that is about 2000 miles round trip, everything else is under 400 mile round trip. I know the G614's are probably the best thing to get, but I was wondering about other tire options that would be a good reliable alternative. All help is appreciated ....thanks....[8D]


See my reply in the other post you made. Making the same post in more than one place on the forum is frowned upon, as it spreads answers and discussion all over the place.

Ozz
01-04-2015, 04:35 AM
Here is LonnieB's tire recommendations:


Lonnie:
These are my suggestions for LT235/85R16 load range E in order of preference.
1. Michelin XPS RIB
2. BRIDGESTONE DURAVIS R500 COMMERCIAL LT
3. BF GOODRICH COMMERCIAL TA
4. BRIDGESTONE DURAVIS R250 COMMERCIAL LT
5. FIRESTONE TRANSFORCE H/T

Lonnie is the General Manager at a tire shop in Clovis New Mexico. I couldn't think more of any person, Lonnie is the real deal.