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Montana_1887
08-01-2004, 02:39 PM
I am seriously considering fulltiming in a Montana soon. The models that I am interested in are the 3400RL, 3295RK, and 3685FL (possibly 3380RL-haven't seen one yet). I will also need to purchase a tow vehicle. I have never owned a truck, and the only knowledge that I have of them I have learned in the last 2 weeks.

Talks with dealers just get me more confused....(what the heck is a 410 rear end?) One RV dealer insisted that a Ford 350 would get up the mountains, but a 250 would leave me in a crawl....I thought they had the same engine!!! Please help. This is a big investment for a single woman looking at fulltiming. Also, I would really like to go with a used truck if possible (diesel). I can't believe how expensive a base line truck costs!! Are there certain years and models that I should stay away from?

If you know any websites that would help me research, I would really appreciate those as well!

Thanks in advance!
Di

lightningjack11
08-01-2004, 03:14 PM
Ok here is my 2 cents.

1. Look for a 1 ton truck. For Ford that is an F350 and Chevy is a 3500.

2. Buy a truck with a Diesel Engine. The reason is economy and power. (For ex: 7-8mpg for the gasser and 12-13mpg for the diesel)

3. A 4:10 rear in refers to the gear ratio. A 4:10 is great if you are going to be driving in a lot hills and Mountains. A 3:73 may be better for economy and flatlands. I have a 3:55 and it does just fine.

4. You can buy a longbed or shortbed truck. My shortbed truck fits in my garage so I like it. If you get a shortbed truck you need a special attachment for the hitch called a slider. The slider lets you manuever like a longbed when needed.

5. I see your from Texas and I have known a few people that have picked up some great deals on used diesels there. Texas is the place for used diesels.

Diesels such as mine can go 300000 or more without overhaul if you take care of them. I don't think a gasser will do that and still pull a Monty.

ok somebody elses turn

Go Pokes
08-01-2004, 03:29 PM
Have owned four Dodge Diesels. Two have over 300,000 miles pulling a trailer-- and never an engine overhaul. One was totaled in a wreck and the driver was not hit. The other truck is still pulling a trailer. Replaced the wrecked one with a 2003 Dodge Diesel 3500 Dually. This truck pulls the 3400 great. In summary, I have logged over a million miles on Dodge diesels with only general maintence required. Change the oil regularly and the Cummins diesel will keep on pulling. I would definitely get a dually 1 ton.

Montana_1887
08-01-2004, 03:58 PM
If they have the same engines, why does everyone recommend the 1 ton over the 3/4? I will only be towing with it, I don't have any need for heavier loads in the bed. As far as I can tell, that's the main difference (and you lower your towable load because of the increased vehicle weight.) Also, the Monty's don't seem to be exceeding the hitch weight for the 250. I will only be moving the trailer 2-4 times a year, but each move could potentially be coast to coast because of my work. Please let me know why a 1 ton is better... Inquiring minds want to know!!

Thanks,
Di

Bill Hill
08-02-2004, 04:31 AM
I'll through in my 1 cents worth! We pull our travel trailer (we buy the Montana next year!) with a 2004 Chevy 2500HD crew cab, short bed, 4X4, Duramax/Allison.

In choosing a tow vehicle you have to look at the weight of both the truck and the trailer. Trucks are assigned not only a towing capacity, but there is what they call the Gross Combined Vehicle Weight Rating (GCVWR). This is the total, combined weight of the truck and the trailer. You will find that for many of the Ford/Chevy/Dodge trucks that the GCVWR is the SAME for a 1-ton truck and the 3/4-ton truck that are equipped the same. Since the 3/4-ton truck usually weighs slightly less than the 1-ton, many 3/4-tons have a tow rating that is higher than the 1-ton. This is true with the Chevy. However, you may want to go to the 1-ton if your hitch weight is high, since the 1-tons have a higher carrying capacity.

You'll find proponents for all the late model diesels: Chevy, Dodge, and Ford, and they all have attributes to recommend them. We chose the Chevy because in addition to the Duramax diesel, it was the only truck available with the Allison transmission, which is used in much larger trucks. It has a great tow/haul mode which acts like a manual transmission.

Good Luck!

Bill Hill

Montana Sky
08-02-2004, 06:20 AM
All the above have some great points. Now I am a Chevy guy so I will throw you what I know about this one only as I am not up to date on Ford or Dodge. The only difference between the 2500HD and 3500 is the 2500HD has 3,000lbs of kingpin weight max and the 3500 has 3,500lbs of kingpin max weight. That is it. I tow the 3400RL with my 2500HD and I have more than enough truck for towing this coach. Also to let you know there is a 3685FL, a 3295RK and my 3400RL in the rv park all summer at the lake and all three are being towed by the 2500HD Chevy or GMC truck. None of us have had any trouble towing with this truck. I agree with going with the Diesel no matter who you buy. I average 15mpg towing the 3400RL and empty I get upwards of 21-22mpg running down the highway. One final thought, if you do go with a shortbed as I have, I would highly suggest the Superglide 5th wheel hitch. Well worth the extra money to have. Good luck on your truck purchase. Let us know what you end up buying.

lightningjack11
08-02-2004, 07:57 AM
justdiana,

The reason I recommended the 1 ton is strickly for an increased GVWR(Gross Vehicle Weight Rating). It does provide a greater margin of safety.

I have a small Montana with a loaded pin wt of about 2350. My truck axles are real close the GVWR of 8800(Within 100lbs) I think you will find that most of the Montana's when loaded will be heavier than my smaller unit. The dry pin wt in the specs will go up when you load the vehicle. Also as part of that 8800 you may want a crew cab, 3 or 4 passengers. extra tank, 4 wheel drive, etc. Whatever yu put in the truck will cost you some of the GVWR. GVWR is simply the total wt allowed on the axles.

You are correct about the engines.

The 3/4 will pull just as good as the 1 ton if they have the same rear end. (ie 4:10, 3:73 etc)

Therefore I recommend the 1 ton for increased safety margin. It is too easy to violate the GVWR with a 3/4 ton.

A lot of people buy a 3/4 then beef the springs to handle the load. Your decesion.

My next truck will be a 1 ton. Any brand diesel will do the job. The new 6.0Liter Ford introduced in 2003 has had a lot of problems. I think they have just about worked out the problems. If buying used I would be a little cautious buying a Ford 2003 6.0Liter. It would be safer to get the 7.3Liter 2003 and before. The 7.3L is a great engine. So is the Cummins and Duramax. My Opinion. I like all of them. I bought my Ford used because it was availble and fit my needs.

DrivesBGM
08-02-2004, 10:09 AM
Also the 1 tons are available as a dually.

You will find folks that will argue about the merits of a dual rear vs single rear wheel configuration but I think that the dually has a stability advantage. My crew cab, long bed, dually is a monster to manuver in tight places but provides an unbelievably solid platform for towing.

And for my piece of mind, I went out of my way to find a tow vehicle that would pull a 14,500 pound 5th wheel and be within every published weight limit.

But I'd agree with the gas vs. diesel debate. While my 8.1 liter gasser has pulled every hill in style, with gas prices being what they are, a diesel looks mighty attractive!

Craig

kdeiss
08-02-2004, 11:38 AM
I agree with the 2500HD doing the job. But don't rule out the 8.1 Gas I remember an article I read that the break even point is 90,000 miles to ofset the additonal price of the diesel and maintance not to mention the noise and smell I use my truck for pulling the fiver and a boat 5,000 miles per year. So the gaser works best for me.

Coro from Maryland
08-02-2004, 03:39 PM
I also agree that you need a 1 ton diesel for that weight.
But the price difference between a F-250 and F-350 is only a few hundred dollars last time I checked.

Merv
08-02-2004, 05:16 PM
since a few people have siggested not to forget the gas engine, i thought i would put in my two cents also.
one thing the gas engine people didnt say too much about is that the gas milage really sucks! i have the Dodge 2500 V10. it does tow very well. but the gas milage ranges between 5 mpg to 8 mpg. the worst i have had in windy condidtions is 3.5 mpg and the best i have had with a tail wind is 9 mpg. at $2.00 a gallon for gas versus $1.75 a gallon for diesel and with better milage, the diesel is first choice.
my next truck is going to be a Dodge 3500 diesel Dually.
Merv

NJ Hillbilly
08-03-2004, 04:01 AM
The advertised pin weights are correct for the 3/4 and 1 ton trucks. This is true if You have a regular cab stripped truck. My 3500 dualie weighs 8000 lbs when packed, full of fuel and 3 occupants. This gives me 3400 lbs to add to the truck before I am over my 11,400 gvw. With 3/4 tank of fresh water, holding tanks empty, packed for the weekend My truck is under the rear axle weight rating but over the gvw by about 300 lbs. So my trailer with an advertised pinweight of 2220 lbs actually has a pin wt of 2800 lbs.

I would reccomend the dualie for the extra weight capacity yet the 3/4 ton or newer single rear wheel 1 tons will handle the load just fine for the amount of time You plan to tow.

John

Thunderman
08-03-2004, 04:41 AM
My 2 cents worth, get the F250 3/4 ton diesel matched with a 2955 Montana or lighter unit. Single rear wheel....crew cab, this should fit your needs. You probably do not need the 4 wheel drive. Good luck

Montana_1887
08-03-2004, 07:42 AM
I don't know why all of you keep insisting that your opinions are only worth 2 cents!!! This is helping me tremendously!! What options do I need to consider "essential" for my purchase? If I buy used, is it easy to add any upgrades that I will need, if the truck is not exactly what I need?

PS I am really leaning toward the 3400RL...it seems to best meet my needs.

Thanks,
Di

lightningjack11
08-03-2004, 08:29 AM
I have not spent a lot of time with Chevy or Dodge so I will leave that to others.

If you are contemplating a used Ford Diesel I recommend you spend some time at www.thedieselstop.com The guys talk their own language there but someone will help you with all years.

They have a lot of links there and a lot of Vendors. Forum search functions will also provide vendors

For older Fords
EXHAUST BRAKE - This will help you for going down steep grades. It provides a controlled blockage to allow your diesel engine to become a pressure generator. In other words it acks like compression braking. Not need for a gasser. It saves your brakes and prevents white knuckle descents. (not really essential for the east)

TORQUE cONVERTER LOCKUP CIRCUIT(Auto Tranny only) - sometimes sold with your exhaust brake. This allows your TC to remained locked for descents. Otherwise you will be on fluid flow which is bad for braking and bad for the transmission.

HITCH with a Slider(shortbed only)-When you place the slider to the manuever position you can turn more sharply when backing into a place. A lot of people turn to sharp and the endcap of the trailer crashes into the cab of the truck.

The only thing you need to start is truck and hitch. Hope this helps. It is just my opinion. Some of the people here have been towing 5er's a lot longer than I have.

tollmann
08-08-2004, 05:14 PM
Boy you sure know how to start a discussion!! I am a dyed in the wool Ford 7.3 man but any of the later model 1 ton diesels should do a good job for you. Be careful of the early 6.0 Ford diesels they had lots of problems. The newer ones seem to be better but you still can't beat cubic inches when it comes to towing thats why I prefer the 7.3.

Countryfolks
08-10-2004, 02:56 PM
Something that hasn't been mentioned, the dually has more tire weight capacity, look at the max cap of the rear tires on a 3/4t and the same on a dually. The rear axle caps and drive trains may be similar but 4 tires can carry a given weight with greater safety than 2. Case in point, my brother-in-law has a newer 3/4t Dodge diesel that has specs that would indicate it can handle our 3280 with ease, the rear tires are marginal for the weight they would have to carry tho. I have also had a sudden, bad blowout on a rear tire on our dually while pulling the 5er, no problems at all, drove slowly to a truck stop, dropped the trailor and then took the truck to a tire dealer to have the tire replaced. Don't want to guess what it would have been like with my b-i-l's truck.

Skip

Montana_1887
08-11-2004, 05:08 AM
Be careful of the early 6.0 Ford diesels they had lots of problems. The newer ones seem to be better but you still can't beat cubic inches when it comes to towing thats why I prefer the 7.3.

Thank you all for your opinions! I was out of town and just got back to check out the new posts. What year did the 6.0 diesels come out? I had heard that there were some problems early on.

Di

larryngail
08-11-2004, 05:21 PM
Hi justdiana,

I suggest you take a look at Trailer Life's Towing Guide. TL isn't hung-up on any make or model of vehicle.

What's important is that you feel safe and comfortable with what you're doing.

I was totally confused about the whole weight/towing thing (still am, actually -- which shows by the truck I bought!). But I do feel safe :D:D:D. and yes, those dealers are real crazy-makers.

Good Luck in your search. My two-cents: At minumum, a 1-ton dually. I really appreciate what lightningjack11 has to say.

Montana_107
08-13-2004, 06:11 PM
My Montana 30.5fks is pulled by a F250SD CC 7.3L 4X2. The total package weighs around 17,000 lbs. 8500 on the truck and around 8500lbs on the trailer. I weighed them at a COOP grain scale for certified weights. The trailer GVWR is 9800lbs so I still have around 1300lbs if I need to put more in it and lighten the truck. Truck and trailer are both in their GVWR classifications.
How does it tow? Outside of the mountains in normal flatlands and hills on interstates I travel at 65mph (I could run 75mph if I wanted to) two reasons I don't, you have to be able to stop it, and travel trailers are not made to run 75mph and sometimes you loose windows and aluma-domes buy going to fast. This is speaking from experience, go to bed some night and look up and see the stars. Really happened on the way back from Minnesota.
Having had a Ford V10 (good engine but can't pass a gas station) lots of pulling power, I would recommend a diesel of 7.3L Ford or a 5.9 Cummings these two engines have proved themselves over the long haul the jury is out on the rest of them.
Get 3/4 minimum or a 1 ton nothing less. I chose a 3/4 ton because of the easier ride when not towing.
If you tow all the time get a 1 ton but if its only a couple of thousand miles a year get a 3/4.

TMO
fknipfer

sreigle
08-20-2004, 01:20 PM
The 6.0L came out with the 2003 models. Mine is an early one and had stalling problems but that seems to be fixed now. This truck is absolutely awesome as a towing machine. But then all the recent diesels are excellent tow-ers. The new Truck Trend magazine has a test of the Ford 6.0L and the new Dodge Cummins 600 head-to-head. Bottom line is all three brands do the job.

If I were to trade for some reason it would be another 6.0. But that's just me. GM and Dodge folks feel the same about theirs. Must be a good reason for that, too.

rames14
08-24-2004, 12:49 AM
We just purchased the 3400RL and a new Chevy 2500HD diesel. I can't disagree with much of anything that I have read. As a supplier to the auto industry (transmission components), I can tell you that I like the Chevy just for the Allison transmission. The Ford and Dodge Dodge diesels are great units. However, the Allison is the class of the field in transmissions. Especially in the mountains, the automatic downshifting, the five speed for economy, etc. make it hard to beat. I also found it intriguing when I looked at the specs for the 3500 vs the 2500HD that there is very little difference in capacities.

sreigle
08-24-2004, 02:19 PM
Ron and Terrie, I have a question for you. I know both the Allison and the Ford TorqueShift automatics have the tow/haul mode with the automatic downshifting. There's been some comments on this terrific feature in some of the magazine tests. But my question - I know the Ford 6.0 diesel has a variable vane geometry that tow/haul and the engine computer use to create a backpressure similar to an exhaust brake when slowing down. I recently read that the Duramax also has variable vane geometry in its turbo, too. I got the impression that this is new with the Duramax upgrade. My questions - is this used in braking like the Ford, and, is this new for Duramax with the latest upgrade or has that been part of the Duramax all along. I've not heard of the Duramax having this until recently so am just wondering why it wasn't touted before. Or maybe I just missed it.
Thanks.

Montana Sky
08-24-2004, 09:12 PM
Ron and Terrie,
Congrats on your new truck and coach. As you can see by my signature I have the exact same rigs. Your 2500HD will have no problems towing the 3400RL. Hope you have many, many miles of happy rv'ing ahead.

GordonR
08-25-2004, 04:03 AM
Ron and Terrie,
I echo Montana Sky's congratulations. I've got the 3400RL too, but am pulling it with a 3500 dually. We bought the truck before we settled on a fiver and over bought to be safe. It's more than we need with the 3400, but I wouldn't trade it now.
I've been following an exhaust brake discussion in another thread. To date, I haven't considered one because I'm pleased with the performance in Tow/Haul with the Allison - and because I really don't know much about aftermarket technical things. Despite that, I'm also interested in any info you provide in response to Steve's question.
Gordon

sreigle
08-25-2004, 02:23 PM
Bottom line seems to be that there are very happy owners of all three major brands. That speaks well to the industry and for us RV'ers. It's great to have such good choices.

rames14
08-26-2004, 01:12 AM
Steve -
My understanding is that the braking is done with the Allison transmission control logic. I am not sure of the variable vane design of the turbo on the duramax. I will be over at my company's technical center and some folks from our turbo division will be there. I will try to get an answer on that. I do know that having my first diesel, it was strange to have the vehicle "control" the descent on hills without me doing anything. It sounded to me like a downshift. And, since my new Silverado is back with its former owner right now (Chevy takes 4 days to get parts) with a solenoid issue on the turbo charger. And, since my turbo hasn't been working and its still braking, my assumption is that the tranny is doing this. See if I can get some answers. I can tell you that with 3000 miles, I am already getting @22 mpg on the highway. I've got a tonneau cover on when I'm not towing. My Tahoe never got that kind of mileage. Other than the fact that General Motors is much more demanding of their suppliers than they are of themselves, I haven't had any issues with my other GM vehicles. So, I'm looking at this latest setback as an anomoly. I would be interested if anyone else had issues with their turbo on the Duramax diesel.

NJ Hillbilly
08-26-2004, 03:58 AM
The variable vane turbo was first used in '04, I haven't heard anything about it closing to help with backpressure though.

John

Montana_1548
08-26-2004, 09:58 AM
I pull a 36' Montana fifth wheel. I used to own a 2500 Silverado Short Bed with the Allison Transmission and 4.1. I really loved the truck and ride both when pulling and when not. Since I commute 25 miles each way to work, the MPG's were killing me (7-8 pulling and 11-12 not pulling)so I traded it in for a Desiel. I bought a Dodge 3500 Long Bed,[:p] with a 3.73, only because Dodge gave me a very good price while Chevy and Ford were not very coooperative. I now have about 7,000 miles on it and find that I am getting about 12-13 MPG pulling and 16-17 MPG not pulling. No complaints here so far.

sreigle
08-26-2004, 03:24 PM
Thanks, Ron and John. Ron, that's superb mileage. I can't come close to touching that. Ours has 46,600 miles after 14 months. The mileage continued to improve over most of that time. Currently it will get 17-18 solo highway (70-75mph), 16-17 in town solo, and 11 to 13 towing with 11.5 to 12.0 being most common towing. I get better when I slow down and drive 60 so I'm doing that more and more often.

Thanks for the reply. I'd almost bet if they have variable vane geometry in the turbo that it's also used to help create some backpressure like the Ford does. The Ford also downshifts automatically and if you step on the brake, etc., and as you said it really does a good job of slowing and/or holding speed on the downhills. Actually, our Honda cars did that years ago so I guess grade braking by transmission is not really new.

rames14
08-30-2004, 04:52 PM
Steve -

Brand X makes the turbo for the Chevy, so I wasn't able to ask directly about the Duramax turbo and engine braking. However, in reading literature elsewhere on the net, the braking on the Silverado is from the Allison transmission. The Allison also is the only one that you can tow in overdrive with - leading to higher mpg towing. Sure enough, buy a diesel and diesel costs more than unleaded. There was a recent article in car and driver (I believe) that evaluated all three of the diesel pickups. As seen on this forum, they all have their good points and their weaknesses. Some, like the aging interior of the Silverado, are like old slippers - not new but comfortable. I've had two Astro vans, followed by four Blazers, Two Tahoes and now the Silverado. The interior is starting to grow on me (like moss, I guess). Look forward to seeing fellow Montana owners at the Rally.

Montana_381
09-01-2004, 03:12 PM
quote:Originally posted by rames14

The Allison also is the only one that you can tow in overdrive with - leading to higher mpg towing.

Newsflash, Rames14: you're dead wrong on this.

All 3 brands have automatics that can stand up to towing in O/D.

The only question is whether the diesel engine has sufficient power at the specific point in its powerband to tow in O/D at the speed which you want to travel given the differential gearing of the truck.

I've pulled from S. Texas to the Canadian border and back 3 times in just the last year and was in O/D all the way each time.

lightningjack11
09-01-2004, 05:12 PM
I use OD all the time except I turn it off for hills and driving in traffic. 12-14 towing my 2850 at 65mph. Weighs in at about 10.5K loaded.

Montana_1424
09-07-2004, 08:46 AM
I hear a lot of goods and bads about all the brands. When i bought my new Dodge, for 2004, all I can add is that I looked at all the brands, Ford, Chevy, GMC, and the Dodge had the highest towing capacity, and for me, that was a plus, my 3650RK is 14k loaded, and my truck is rated for 16k, so it is nice to have a little cusion. I will say, I wish I had an allison trany, not becasue i am having problems with mine, just becasue many say the Cummins is the best engine, and it would be great to have the best engine paired with the best trany. Have fun full timing it, I am only 27 and cant wait to retire in 20 years so I can full time it.

Sue
09-11-2004, 10:35 AM
[quote]Originally posted by justdiana

Girlfriend, lets talk ;),

Out of the 3 most recents trucks I have owned, they ALL are GREAT TRUCKS, but for different reasons.

I recently turned back in my 03 Ford F350 Dually. Forget the fact that this one was a LEMON because it was my 11th Ford and would buy one again. The only thing I can see now that I had a chance to compare to my husbands GMC 2500HD and 3500HD Dodge Dually is that THE FORD JUST DOESN'T HAVE THE GET UP AND GO that the GMC has when you need it. You will get there, but its a struggle. But the Ford is way more roomer inside. My husbands GMC has GET UP N GO just like my daughters Escalade. When you need to go, YOU GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO....But it's small inside. That being said, I LOVE (notice I'm up to LOVE now), my new Dodge. Way, way more comfortable inside than either the Ford or the GMC.

So, here's the order for me....
#1 2004 Dodge 3500HD 4x4 Dually-Laramie/Cummins
#2 2003 GMC 2500HD 4x4-Duramax/Allison Trans/LB
#3 Ford F350HD, 4x4 Dually (and yes I would try one again)

Oh, as far as comfort goes, the Ford rides like your in a MACK TRUCK. The GMC is okay, but real unformtable seats, and the Dodge, (maybe cause this time I bought leather) is wayyyyyyyyy wayyyyyyy more comfortable. Like riding in a car, not a truck ;) Handles the bumpy roads like butter on bread (well that's an exagaration but close)

And that's my [:X] GIRLY [:X] two cents!!!

Montana_381
09-11-2004, 11:47 AM
Sue, a word of caution when you're towing: start out easy!

After all, you don't want to re-arrange things in the trailer by causing them to slide to the rear. :D

Terri's always on my case about this. [:p]

Bob

Sue
09-11-2004, 01:51 PM
quote:Originally posted by Bob McCulloch

Sue, a word of caution when you're towing: start out easy!

After all, you don't want to re-arrange things in the trailer by causing them to slide to the rear. :D

Terri's always on my case about this. [:p]

Bob


Huh????? Sorry, don't get it!! [V]

Sue
09-11-2004, 01:54 PM
Ahhhhhhhhhh, you mean cause now I have so much power!!! :D

At first I didn't get it.

Do you love your Dodge??? This my first one, and shamefully admit first one with leather seats. I know, simple things please me :D

Montana_381
09-12-2004, 12:10 PM
Yep! :D

We enjoy our Laramie's heated leather seats - especially when tipped back a bit with the Lumbar support adjusted - when putting in a 500 mile day.

The hardest thing we've had to deal with was the strain on our cheek muscles from the constant grinning.:D

Sue
09-12-2004, 02:12 PM
quote:Originally posted by Bob McCulloch

Yep! :D

We enjoy our Laramie's heated leather seats - especially when tipped back a bit with the Lumbar support adjusted - when putting in a 500 mile day.

The hardest thing we've had to deal with was the strain on our cheek muscles from the constant grinning.:D




Hi Bob,

Thanks for the advise!

JUSTDIANA, one more thing to ADD to the promotion of the Dodge. I went thru a Pharmacy drive thru earlier today. I did NOT have to shut off my truck in order to hear the lady inside thru the speakers talk to me, and she could hear me fine too. In my Ford and in my husbands GMC you HAVE to shut off the truck in order to hear.

Not kiddin guys, go test drive one. They are so quite. You can NOT tell it's a desiel.

Have a great nite all. [:X]

NJ Hillbilly
09-13-2004, 02:53 AM
Never had a problem with drive-thru speakers with my GMC either.

John

Sue
09-13-2004, 09:44 AM
quote:Originally posted by NJ Hillbilly

Never had a problem with drive-thru speakers with my GMC either.

John


Hmmmmmmmmmm, that's great. Maybe my husbands and my hearing aren't the best then....we are getting up there in age ;)

Montana_1424
09-13-2004, 11:25 AM
DODGE ALL THE WAY!!
Love mine too, nice ride, good sound, and A LOT OF POWER!!

Montana_1887
09-14-2004, 03:27 AM
Thank you all for the info!!! My brother-in-law (my only "family" truck source) is a total "Ford" man, so it is good to hear from other truck owners. I have been leaning towards a Dodge, simply because of the increased towing capacity (I know that Ford's towing capacity increases this year, but I am looking to buy used). It is good to hear that it is also quieter and a smoother ride. Thanks, Sue!

I am planning on buying in November when I get back to Dallas, so keep the great advice coming!!

Thanks again!!
Di

Bob Pasternak
09-15-2004, 06:28 PM
For Justdiana, if you're looking for a used diesel, I'd shy away from Powerstroke or Duramax with over 150,000 miles on them. I'm sure I'll get flack on that, but unless you can certify the care it's had, it may be running on borrowed time. Cummins will be pretty safe up to about 400,000+ miles.[8D]

sreigle
09-19-2004, 05:21 PM
Sue, you probably meant to say your Ford didn't have the get up and go. Mine's a whole lot different than that. And the magazines all say the Ford is still the king when it comes to towing, up hill and on the flats, within its ratings of course. In any case, all three mfrs make good trucks that can do the job. I'm sorry to hear you got a bad one this time. But no doubt there are others of us who can say the same thing about one of the other brands. I'm glad to hear your new Dodge is getting it done for you. That's really what counts in the end.

Coro from Maryland
10-07-2004, 04:00 PM
I have to agree with Steve. My 2003 F-350 has all the power I need to tow my 12,000 lb Montana. I had considered adding a chip for more power, but after towing in the Rockies and Appalacians last summer, I just don't see the point. It handled every hill with ease.

There was a caution mentioned earlier about not getting an early model 6.0 Ford engine, meaning one built before May 2003. The reason it was mentioned is that these early versions have the original style injectors, which have a higher (though still small) chance of failing eventually. The risk is small, but improved injectors were used after that date.

sreigle
10-07-2004, 08:43 PM
Hmmm, my Ford rides very nicely. Even Vicki says so. Sue, it sounds like the Ford you had was atypical all the way around. I sure can't blame you for dumping it and I'm very glad mine's not like that at all.

Sue
10-09-2004, 03:21 PM
quote:Originally posted by sreigle

Hmmm, my Ford rides very nicely. Even Vicki says so. Sue, it sounds like the Ford you had was atypical all the way around. I sure can't blame you for dumping it and I'm very glad mine's not like that at all.


Yeah!!! I'm glad yours works also. I was just getting sick of breaking down with horses in tow!!! Doesn't make a fun day.....

I would try another Ford some day, but not in the near future.

I love my new Dodge. Its is very comfortable. One of my friends test drove it yesterday, he was amazed how it rides like a car, and quiet too!!