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seahunter
09-03-2013, 07:48 PM
Not sure if this is the right place for my strange question in two parts.

The first part of my question is how many folks let friends or family use their truck and trailer?

This would be them taking it out and using it for weekends or a week or two.

The second part is how many let people just stay in their trailer, say if they're visiting for a while?

My take on the first part is this. I have a $65,000 truck and a $100,000 (MSRP) trailer and there is no way - friend or family - are going to take out my rigs. Does that make me a bad person?

Now, for the second part. The whole reason we wanted an RV is so we don't have to stay in disgusting well-used hotel rooms. I have to admit I'm a bit OCD to be fair, so I like having my brand new, clean trailer. So, if I let people stay in it all the time, I effectively have a hotel room on wheels then the way I see it, which I'm not too keen on. This came up recently because my in-laws asked to use our trailer for when their relatives were up for a stay. I thought that was a bit nervy?? If it were me, I would never expect to use someone else's trailer. And what if they don't know how to use all the systems. Even if shown, that's a lot to learn and a lot to forget.

So there are my questions and my phobias - LOL. Just wanted to see what others' opinions are of "sharing the Montana"...

Irlpguy
09-03-2013, 08:54 PM
I will be the first to reply to your questions:

1) I would not even remotely consider loaning my unit to friend or relative, no matter how much I love them. I worked my whole life for what we have today as a travel unit. Sorry rent one from a dealer. Heck I don't even let my wife drive my truck.

2) My unit is parked in my yard, depending on the in laws I would either allow them to sleep in it only, or I would sleep in it myself and allow them a room in my house. I would not move it to a campsite to accommodate anyone's visit.

Now how you propose to tell these folks "NO" I will leave up to you, good luck on that one.

davidaf
09-03-2013, 08:54 PM
Nope, don't even let people drive my truck. It's not like it's a little honda plus strap 38ft and 15k lbs to it. No way, I'd be a wreck. As for using it when I'm not there, nope. Guess I'm just a jerk. Get your own payment ;)

seahunter
09-03-2013, 10:07 PM
quote:Originally posted by Irlpguy

I will be the first to reply to your questions:

1) I would not even remotely consider loaning my unit to friend or relative, no matter how much I love them. I worked my whole life for what we have today as a travel unit. Sorry rent one from a dealer. Heck I don't even let my wife drive my truck.

2) My unit is parked in my yard, depending on the in laws I would either allow them to sleep in it only, or I would sleep in it myself and allow them a room in my house. I would not move it to a campsite to accommodate anyone's visit.

Now how you propose to tell these folks "NO" I will leave up to you, good luck on that one.




Good points! LOL - wife hasn't driven the truck either. I know its better (safer) if she could, but she doesn't want to tow the Montana anyway.

LOL on telling them. They brought it up when I wasn't there. My wife laughed at her mom and said, "Have you MET my husband!" She done took care of that for us.

seahunter
09-03-2013, 10:10 PM
quote:Originally posted by davidaf

Nope, don't even let people drive my truck. It's not like it's a little honda plus strap 38ft and 15k lbs to it. No way, I'd be a wreck. As for using it when I'm not there, nope. Guess I'm just a jerk. Get your own payment ;)


I'd be a wreck too. That's why I turn it around and think, would I want to use someone else's car/truck/trailer? Heck no, I be too worried the whole time if I did it, so why would I let someone else do it?

LOL - Get your own payment!

NCFischers
09-03-2013, 11:40 PM
Absolutely no on both counts. It's not a hotel, it's our home that we worked way too hard for. There is a learning curve to owning and using these rigs. To me, it would like someone asking to use my toothbrush.

HamRad
09-04-2013, 01:02 AM
The "general" answer would be "no". However if I knew the person and knew he/she could handle the rig then the answer would be yes. My brother comes to mind. He knows how to drive these rigs. Heck he's done more work on my rigs than anyone. He knows the rig better than I do.

If we have visitors then either they can stay in the trailer or we can stay in the trailer. We've done both. Absolutely no problems. We always clean up after they've gone. Even though they did a good job of cleaning.

As an example of someone that I would not let tow the trailer around would be my daughter and my son. Love them both dearly. But neither one of them would even ask to borrow it. They know they cannot handle it. Just about any of our MOC friends, however, would be welcome if the circumstances warranted the use. If you're a MOC then you already know how to deal with the truck and the rig. Good luck... Dennis

ols1932
09-04-2013, 02:00 AM
Never! I'd let them stay in the rig for a night or two while visiting but that's all.

Orv

Mrs. CountryGuy
09-04-2013, 02:43 AM
Loan out the unit, well, no that is not going to happen.

I am allowed to drive the truck and tow the Montana, our purchase was one done together, we both worked as a couple to get where we are today, to buy both the truck and 5er. And it is probably more my dream for many years than his.

rant to begin

Ladies can and do drive these rigs, and ooo, the buses your beloved children and grandchildren ride to school on a daily basis are driven by a lot of women. If women can drive buses with your precious cargo, they can drive these units.

rant over.

We are more than happy to allow guests to use the bedroom in the stickbuilt while they visit. We prefer the beds in Tana anyway! :D

1retired06
09-04-2013, 02:54 AM
Nobody drives my truck except my wife, no exceptions. Nobody borrows the fiver or my boat, no exceptions. On a regular basis, folks visit us in NC and Florida, and stay with us in the fiver. We give them the upstairs, and we sleep on our super duper air mattress in the living room.

Phil P
09-04-2013, 03:00 AM
Hi

The first part of your question.

We have let one of my uncles and cousin spends a couple of nights in our trailer when they were here for my father’s funeral. My uncle was in his middle 90’s and we are out in the country where it is a 40 minute ride to the nearest decent Motel.The funeral was held at my house there wasn’t a viewing.

I have let a friend stay a couple of nights on the sofa bed when I was at the Florida Fly wheelers event last November.

We have never loaned the truck and trailer to anyone.



The second part of your question.

In my case I would not consider the trailer a “Motel room” on wheels.

However I would agree with your analogy if the trailer was consistently loaned out to relatives or friends.

Phil P

gkidsdlite
09-04-2013, 03:00 AM
Kids and Grandkids only as we will be living in it fulltime, when we are on a trip together! I would trust my 2 sons with pulling it as they are professional truck drivers, in fact when on those vaca's they will be doing their time at the wheel! Sorry my 3 daughters, no, not because I favor the boys it's just that they don't have large vehicle experience! As for the DW she will be getting a lot of training/driving under my direction! She trained me so now it's my turn to return the favor!!! HAHAHA

Icehouse
09-04-2013, 03:24 AM
No and No. Never. No exceptions. And no apologies. I will happily direct them to the local dealership where they can pick out their own.

richfaa
09-04-2013, 04:43 AM
Loaning it out...No. It is to much of a responsibility no matter who the person is. Helen is the only other person who drives the rig emergency conditions aside.

The Montana sits here on our property with full hook ups. It can be used as a motel room for family members or friends but in 7 years of Montana ownership that has not happened. Most Non Rv owners would rather stay in a motel than the Montana.

seahunter
09-04-2013, 04:55 AM
Thank you all for your great replies. Was going over them this morning with the Mrs., and I told her we basically got two types of responses - NO, and H*ll NO! I'm feeling much better that I'm not "strange" for not feeling like loaning out the truck or trailer.

davidaf
09-04-2013, 06:00 AM
quote:
Ladies can and do drive these rigs, and ooo, the buses your beloved children and grandchildren ride to school on a daily basis are driven by a lot of women. If women can drive buses with your precious cargo, they can drive these units.


DW is free to use/drive/smash anything I/we own. Hopefully we'll end up next to some good folks like you that will give her a prod to start driving the rig. She doesn't even like driving the dually. She bought her own camper, an 84 Westy. I barely fit behind the wheel, silly legs are too long.

Yamaha_Mama
09-04-2013, 06:13 AM
We don't lend our Monty out to anyone. With the extra skill and awareness needed to drive, manuever, set up and break down systems, we don't feel comfortable with anyone letting anyone else use it.

On the second question, we are fortunate enough to keep our Monty at our home. So, it is used as a 'guest house' for when our son and his family come to visit.

Parts Ed
09-04-2013, 06:48 AM
In answer to your question, No I would not loan out our trailer to anyone-not even our kids, they have had not experience in driving anything like that. Heck my wife didn't even want to let our youngest drive my truck to and from high school as if he would have an accident with it there goes our primary means of towing our trailer(s).....
That being said, I have loaned out my Auto Hauler, but not my truck, to friends so they could move from one house to another but they knew were familiar with towing a trailer.

kylec2
09-04-2013, 08:28 AM
My answer is "No" on both accounts.

kylec2
09-04-2013, 08:30 AM
My answer is "No" on both accounts.

Rob Walters
09-04-2013, 10:22 AM
Coincidentally, I was asked "what would it take for me and my husband to use your "trailer" for a little weekend getaway?", just last week. I even surprised myself when, a split second after finishing the question, I replied with an emphatic, "I would never even consider it". I think my response kind of surprised her as well because of the look on her face. She dropped that line of questioning immediately. Later on I began to ponder her question and my response and wondered if I might have been too abrupt with her, after all she and her husband are good friends. She even told me that they had been considering buying a travel trailer but had been reluctant about "jumping" into something financially, that they later might regret. I even thought about pulling the 5er out to a nearby campground, setting it up, and letting them enjoy it for the weekend thereby eliminating the possibility of a traffic accident on their part. Then, I thought about it a little more, and even discussed it with DW. When I told her I was "thinking about it", she looked at me like I had a duck on my head. I looked at her and said, "you're right". Even if I did let them use my Montana and they did like it enough to go out and buy a travel trailer, they'd never be satisfied unless they bought a Montana anyway.....so I'm actually doing them a favor. No, I won't let anyone use my Montana or my Truck. My wife doesn't drive it so no one else is gonna drive it either. I would let my adult children stay in it if they visited, but other than that, no. I don't feel bad about it anymore either. That went away after a few hours. I think it says "MOC Enthusiast" or something on my MOC banner, but my wife would call me "Rabid". I love my Montana and my truck, and I've worked very hard to have both. It's not that I don't trust anyone else, it's just that I don't TRUST ANYONE ELSE! (except maybe one of ya'll if it came right down to it)

seahunter
09-04-2013, 10:31 AM
quote:Originally posted by Rob Walters

.....so I'm actually doing them a favor. No, I won't let anyone use my Montana or my Truck. My wife doesn't drive it so no one else is gonna drive it either. I would let my adult children stay in it if they visited, but other than that, no. I don't feel bad about it anymore either. That went away after a few hours. I think it says "MOC Enthusiast" or something on my MOC banner, but my wife would call me "Rabid". I love my Montana and my truck, and I've worked very hard to have both. It's not that I don't trust anyone else, it's just that I don't TRUST ANYONE ELSE! (except maybe one of ya'll if it came right down to it)


Great post Rob. Thanks.

Joe in Texas
09-04-2013, 11:01 AM
NO way - we worked hard for what we have.
No one would take care of it like we do.

The kids grew up camping in a Coleman pop up trailer with us as a family and enjoyed every minute of it thru their high school years. But they know now not to ask to use our fifth wheel and truck - they know what the answer would be.

DQDick
09-04-2013, 01:17 PM
No to both questions. I won't even share my tools. The quickest way to ruin a friendship or a family relationship is to get something you care about torn up. Wether it happens by accident, stupidity or it would have happened anyway. You'll always blame them and feel you shouldn't have loaned it to them. Better to say no up front.

Phil P
09-04-2013, 02:43 PM
Hi

here is where the Montana is sitting today.

http://www.sallyscoffees.com/montana-for-richfaa/montana-09-04-2013-1-1.jpg

Here is where I normally store it on the concrete pad between the poles of the old pole barn.

http://www.sallyscoffees.com/montana-for-richfaa/montana-09-04-2013-2-1.jpg

It's next to the house while I do some maintenance.

Both locations have electric and water.

Phil P

Bigboomer
09-04-2013, 03:50 PM
We actually had someone ask if they could borrow our truck and rig to go on vacation....guess my look said it all as they acknowledged it was a pretty dumb question.... just imagine the phone call to the insurance company trying to explain that...I could just hear the entire room laughing and asking "you did what?

Sue drives Bigboomer as much as possible and is getting better backing up...now I no longer sit white knuckled riding shotgun....I can actually take a nap!

sola123
09-04-2013, 05:32 PM
Nope..nope and nope.....very simple.....the Monty is our space....only some grandkids once in a while....it only sleeps 2 adults....the owners.....

mamestra
09-04-2013, 06:04 PM
Would never let someone borrow our rig, but did haul it to a campground so our son and his new bride could have a bit of time away after their wedding.

mamestra
09-04-2013, 06:06 PM
Would never let someone borrow our rig, but did haul it to a campground so our son and his new bride could have a bit of time away after their wedding.

CORattler
09-04-2013, 06:17 PM
My feelings as well. Interesting questions.;)


quote:Originally posted by NCFischers

Absolutely no on both counts. It's not a hotel, it's our home that we worked way too hard for. There is a learning curve to owning and using these rigs. To me, it would like someone asking to use my toothbrush.

CORattler
09-04-2013, 06:26 PM
My feelings as well. Interesting questions.;)


quote:Originally posted by NCFischers

Absolutely no on both counts. It's not a hotel, it's our home that we worked way too hard for. There is a learning curve to owning and using these rigs. To me, it would like someone asking to use my toothbrush.

seahunter
09-04-2013, 06:42 PM
quote:Originally posted by Phil P

Hi

here is where the Montana is sitting today.

Here is where I normally store it on the concrete pad between the poles of the old pole barn.

It's next to the house while I do some maintenance.

Both locations have electric and water.

Phil P


Beautiful piece of property there Phil! Great setup having utilities at both too.

seahunter
09-04-2013, 06:46 PM
quote:Originally posted by Bigboomer

.... just imagine the phone call to the insurance company trying to explain that...I could just hear the entire room laughing and asking "you did what?



LOL! I just can't imagine how someone thinks they can just get in and drive a 40' trailer around and be just fine. Even if they used to have one, they obviously don't now and are out of practice.

seahunter
09-04-2013, 06:48 PM
quote:Originally posted by sola123

Nope..nope and nope.....very simple.....the Monty is our space....only some grandkids once in a while....it only sleeps 2 adults....the owners.....


:D I tried that one too! Problem is I can't get people to believe a 40' trailer only sleeps two. I've even thought of telling them since I have a front living room, that the slides wouldn't allow for the extra weight of hide-a-beds! [}:)]

seahunter
09-04-2013, 06:51 PM
quote:Originally posted by mamestra

Would never let someone borrow our rig, but did haul it to a campground so our son and his new bride could have a bit of time away after their wedding.



That was a nice thing to do.

Phil P
09-05-2013, 12:56 AM
Thanks seahunter

I am hoping it becomes somebody else’s soon.

Phil P

Chip
09-05-2013, 04:37 AM
Thanks for these posts. I have often wondered about this and how I would handle this type of request.

ole dude
09-05-2013, 04:50 AM
Year before last when the fires in Bastrop county Tx. burned 34000 acres and 1600 homes my son and his wife lost every thing, we moved my rig to a location he picked out so they could have a place to live while sorting things out. I am real glad I had this trailer for them to use until they found a new home. My daughter in law's comment was--she had to go outside to change her mind. They were glad when they were able to move into their own place. Would I loan them my truck and trailer? Probably not. Would I loan it /them to anyone else--Nope.

DonandJudy_12
09-05-2013, 08:49 AM
The insurance coverage aspect alone is more than adequate reason to say NO- I would never ask to use someone's equipment and feel it would be rather "cheeky" to do so- JMHO- Don

CasaDelSol
09-09-2013, 05:51 AM
We would never let someone take the Montana and truck together. That being said it's not a good move to let your home be used as a motel. We did it twice and I am still regretting it. The first time we set it up at a campground for our niece and her new husband. At the end of the week the rear day/night shade was so buggered that even when it was straightened out it was never the same. The 2nd and last time was for my sister-in-law and husband. They brought their 2 big dogs with them for 2 weeks. I will never get that dog smell out and it has been almost 2 years!! I can smell it especially on humid days and it makes my heart sink. It is not the same as letting someone stay in a cottage or vacation home. While the Montanas are well built, we baby our "Casa" because we want it to last a long time. It is a 2006 and is still in relatively good condition (not counting the dumb graphics). My advice is don't do it!!

CasaDelSol
09-09-2013, 05:54 AM
We would never let someone take the Montana and truck together. That being said it's not a good move to let your home be used as a motel. We did it twice and I am still regretting it. The first time we set it up at a campground for our niece and her new husband. At the end of the week the rear day/night shade was so buggered that even when it was straightened out it was never the same. The 2nd and last time was for my sister-in-law and husband. They brought their 2 big dogs with them for 2 weeks. I will never get that dog smell out and it has been almost 2 years!! I can smell it especially on humid days and it makes my heart sink. It is not the same as letting someone stay in a cottage or vacation home. While the Montanas are well built, we baby our "Casa" because we want it to last a long time. It is a 2006 and is still in relatively good condition (not counting the dumb graphics). My advice is don't do it!!

seahunter
09-09-2013, 06:29 AM
quote:Originally posted by CasaDelSol

We would never let someone take the Montana and truck together. That being said it's not a good move to let your home be used as a motel...... I will never get that dog smell out and it has been almost 2 years!! I can smell it especially on humid days and it makes my heart sink. It is not the same as letting someone stay in a cottage or vacation home. While the Montanas are well built, we baby our "Casa" because we want it to last a long time. It is a 2006 and is still in relatively good condition (not counting the dumb graphics). My advice is don't do it!!


Thanks Joanie and Dave. This is what I am afraid of - it would be like having a rental unit. No one is going to take as good of care of it as we are. Sorry about the dog smell, that really sucks.

grampachet
09-09-2013, 07:10 AM
I have always thought no, however at our church camp I offered it to a wonderful elderly widow. She asked how much would I charge so I replied, " the same as you paid on the little unit you rented last year." I had no idea how much that would be. At the end of the seven days that she used it she presented me with a check for $1100.00. We had it all set up and stocked ready to use, even satellite tv. So yes I have "loaned" it out. The lady asked if she could use it next year too, so I did say yes. This is a unique situation.

seahunter
09-09-2013, 09:02 AM
quote:Originally posted by grampachet

I have always thought no, however at our church camp I offered it to a wonderful elderly widow. She asked how much would I charge so I replied, " the same as you paid on the little unit you rented last year." I had no idea how much that would be. At the end of the seven days that she used it she presented me with a check for $1100.00. We had it all set up and stocked ready to use, even satellite tv. So yes I have "loaned" it out. The lady asked if she could use it next year too, so I did say yes. This is a unique situation.


Pastor Chet - $183.00 a night for an elderly widow!!!??? [:0]

DQDick
09-09-2013, 09:30 AM
It's now possibly I could be convinced to change my stand.

grampachet
09-09-2013, 01:28 PM
As i said, it was totally up to her, absolutely not my idea. She would have paid a local rv rental the same amount for a smaller unit that was not furnished. Ours came with mints on pillows, fresh homemade bannabread, towels, bedding, etc. all she needed was her own clothing plus food after the first day. Expensive? Yes but way way better than she had last year.

HOOK
09-09-2013, 01:54 PM
No! Never! No no!!

mlh
09-09-2013, 04:25 PM
I'm more than happy to let friends use my camper. I take it to where they wont to go, set it up and go back and get them. Some people can't afford a camper some don't have a place to park one and I was brought up to share what I have and see no reason to change. In fact I will lone almost any thing I own including my machine shop.
Lynwood

Glenn the fifth
09-10-2013, 06:27 AM
I might loan mine to Oz, but that's about it...

(might end up with some neat mods that way) ;)

Flymutt
09-10-2013, 07:59 AM
5er, mmmmm possibly. But truck...no way jose! Therefore, most likely, NO for both :)

GreatWhite
09-10-2013, 03:11 PM
NoSir.. not me.. I'll let them use it as a place to stay when in the area or visiting me.. but loan it out.... naaaaaa Guess I'm just a grumpy old man..

grampachet
09-10-2013, 04:37 PM
I had an old timer tell me that letting someone use his little old trailer was like letting someone use his toothbrush. That was food for thought i havent forgotten, even if I didnt follow his advice.