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Trailer Trash 2
09-19-2009, 07:23 AM
Hi to all,
We are planning a trip from Q-site AZ. in Feb 2010, after the MOC Mini Rally, our plans are to go from there to Carlsbad Caverns in New Mexico, this is our first travel to that part of the world, there will be three RVs in our group and will hit two overnight campgrounds inroute to New Mexaco and the third day arrive in Carlsbad for a week of camping. we would love any input, and sugestions on good clean campgrounds that like pets and people. also has anybody info on the KOA RV Park in Carlsbad Good or Bad.[B)];) before I start to make reservations.[^]

We might go to Texas after that.

Thanks. Don


On edit I got my information wrong I also had a brain fart, which caused this error in what state is and has.

exav8tr
09-19-2009, 07:27 AM
Don, I think you might just want to go to New Mexico to see the Caverns, Texas is a little too far and no caverns.....grins

Trailer Trash 2
09-19-2009, 07:36 AM
Thanks Phil I have corrected my error.

hookman
09-19-2009, 07:41 AM
Don here is a site that might help. I usually throw out the top and bottom ratings and look at the ones in the middle. I find it gives you a good idea what the park is like most of the time.

HamRad
09-19-2009, 10:55 AM
Don,
We started to do this trip a couple of years ago. Unfortunately we got sick while in Las Cruces and ended up turning around and going home. We did manage a day trip to White Sands. Well worth the trip.

Where are you planning to stop for overnighting? From Q we went to Benson and spent a few days there then on toward the Caverns. We had a really nice CG in Las Cruces but I don't remember the name right now. If you're not in a hurry there are some nice State Parks near Deming. If you're an SKP there is a park right in Deming just off the freeway.

South of Deming about 30 miles is the State Park called Pancho Villa. Nice park. Water and electric and a dump station. Very nice park. It is about a mile or two to the little town of Las Palomas, Mexico. Very small town but has a very nice restaurant ---- The Pink House. You can get some meds there if you are in need of any. It is only a couple of blocks in any direction so very easy to walk. Also nice and free parking lot just this side of border.

Sort of South East of Deming maybe 10 to 15 miles is another SP called Rock Hound. Very nice park sort of on the side of a hill. Very large sites again with water and electric and dump station. So if you are into rocks this is the place. You are allowed a certain amount of rocks that you can take home!

North of Deming about 30 miles is a SP called City of Rocks. An awesome park among some unique rock formations.

Should be a great trip. Plan for very cool to cold weather.

Dennis

Trailer Trash 2
09-19-2009, 01:38 PM
Hi Dennis, we hope all is well with you and the family.
thanks for the information
We will be making 2 overnight stops per day, we figure about 300 miles per day that should put us there early on our third day of travel.
Pay parks are mainly what we want, with all the goodies.

adelmoll
09-19-2009, 01:42 PM
We thought the KOA Camp was a very nice one. I don't think you will find a better one in the area. The sights were roomy.. The wind was awful. Enjoy the caves. They are awesome.

Helen

Trailer Trash 2
09-19-2009, 02:18 PM
thanks Helen I will look that KOA campground up.

sreigle
09-19-2009, 02:32 PM
I agree with HamRad that White Sands National Monument is a good place to visit. Take some of the easy trails on the dunes.

Also, south of White Sands National Monument, on US 70, is the White Sands Missile Range museum. This is a very interesting place. The url is http://www.wsmr-history.org/Museum.htm . We stumbled upon this when we saw a sign out on the highway. You have to park (room for rv's) near the gate and walk a short distance to the museum, passing through the gate of this active Army installation. Cars can drive through the gate but not rv's. Here's an excerpt from the website giving directions.

U.S. Highway 70, from the East:

From the intersection of US-70, US-54, US-82 on White Sands Blvd in Alamogordo, New Mexico, go Southwest on US-70, US-82 approximately 44 miles. Watch for the brown "Museum - Missile Park" sign and exit to the right. Proceed around and through the underpass. Go approximately 4 miles to the Main Gate at White Sands Missile Range. See procedures below.

U.S. Highway 70, from the West:

From the intersection of US-70, US-82, and I-25 on North Main Street in Las Cruces, New Mexico, go East on US-70, US-82 approximately 19 miles. Watch for the brown "Museum - Missile Park" sign and exit to the right. Proceed approximately 4 miles to the Main Gate at White Sands Missile Range. See procedures below.
Entrance Procedures for White Sands Missile Range:

You will need to show your drivers license, vehicle registration, and proof of insurance. As you approach the Missile Range Main Gate, you must stop at the visitors center on the right just before the gate. Park in the parking lot and proceed inside the visitors center where you will need to show your license, registration, and proof of insurance. You will be given a red placard to display in your vehicle. Return to your automobile and proceed to the visitor entrance gate, where security personnel will perform checks and allow you to pass through the gate. You may then proceed approximately 75 yards and turn left into the museum/missile park parking lot.
You may be offered the option of leaving your automobile parked in the parking lot and walking to and from the museum. That will be your choice, and is not necessary.

sreigle
09-19-2009, 02:35 PM
One more thing, or two. If you are at Alamogordo, the drive up the mountains to Cloudcroft is beautiful. Cloudcroft is an interesting place, too.

Also, when at Alamogordo, you're about 80 or so miles from Lincoln, in Lincoln County, Billy the Kid country. If you are interested in the Old West, Lincoln is worth a visit.

Waynem
09-19-2009, 06:53 PM
Don't y'all listen to Phil now, y'ear! He's not a Texan

We have the The Magnificant Seven (http://gorvtexas.com/texascaves.htm) Caverns/caves. Although, some may be further than y'all would like to drive.:)

jimcol
09-19-2009, 08:35 PM
Don,
We stayed at the KOA in Carlsbad. Nice enough park but it is located about 15 miles north of the city of Carlsbad. Quite a drive to the caverns. Besides the caverns there is not a heck of a lot to do in Carlsbad. Inclimate weather in the mountains kept us from visiting Cloudcroft. Also forced us to take the long route from Carlsbad through ElPaso to Las Cruces. We felt there was more to do and see in Las Cruces then Carlsbad. "Hacienda Resort LasCruces" is a really nice park. Little pricey but nice.

BirdingRVer
09-20-2009, 04:01 AM
We also stayed at the KOA in Carlsbad and it is one of the nicest campgrounds we have ever stayed at; however it is 40 miles one way to the Caverns as they are way south of town and the KOA is way north of town.

If you are going to be in the area for a week, north of Carlsbad is Roswell, home of the UFO museum. It is an interesting campy sort of a place.

Also about midway between Carlsbad and Roswell is the town of Artiesia. They have several large bronze statues throughout the town that depict scenes from the history of the area.
As you get closer you might want to check the Carlsbad Caverns web site for reservations. Some of tours were sold out when we were there.

Another suggestion would be to check out Kartchner Caverns near Benson. They are a completely different cavern experience than Carlsbad and it is interesting to compare the differences. Again check the web site for tour reservations.

TekeAngel
09-20-2009, 06:37 AM
You also might want to check out Kartchner Cavern, a "live" cave, near Benson Arizona on your way to New Mexico.
They have a campground however per their web site "All sites are developed as electric hook up sites. NO sites have been developed or designated for basic “dry camping”. Non-electrical and tent campers are welcome use these sites but the full fee will be required. A paid camping permit entitles the holder to use of the shower/restroom, water, electrical and dump station facilities. All sites have a table, hose bib and power post. Each site has a 20 amp and a 110 electrical outlet, some pull through sites have 50 amp service. Sites vary in length from 35’ in the shortest, ”back in” sites to 60’ in the pull through sites, all sites are single width. Sites have ample room on the side areas for pull out units. "

Trailer Trash 2
09-20-2009, 06:51 AM
Wow this is great, all this information, I have a lot of research to do and planning. keep it comming.
Thanks.

exav8tr
09-20-2009, 03:13 PM
Wayne, Almost a Texan, spent 14 years there, met and married Cathy there and second son born there, I even used to drink Lone Star with the best of em. Got my first pair of Noconas there also. Liked it so well we will be wintering at Medina Lake this winter.

You will love Carsbad Caverns, especially if you visit at dusk and watch all the bats leave the cave.

Trailer Trash 2
09-20-2009, 08:01 PM
OK Phil I'll deffinatly have to watch that, that would be so neat to see.

hookman
09-20-2009, 08:12 PM
Don sorry about the website not being there here it is.
http://www.rvparkreviews.com/
Hope this is a help.
Don

Trailer Trash 2
09-20-2009, 08:23 PM
quote:Originally posted by hookman

Don sorry about the website not being there here it is.
http://www.rvparkreviews.com/
Hope this is a help.
Don


Thanks Don I can sure use that site, great information.

Don

simonsrf
09-21-2009, 08:09 AM
Don,

I agree, the KOA is a nice park, but it is a long ways from anywhere; and if you are going to the caverns from there, it is really a long day. You will need several hours to visit the cavern.

We stayed at the Carlsbad RV Park and Campground (http://www.carlsbadrvpark.com/). This place is nothing special, but the staff was very friendly, and the cost fit our budget.

Don't even think of staying at the RV Park at the entrance, White City, it is a real dump.....doesn't seem very safe either.

The Carlsbad Caverns are wonderful; you might want to check to see when the bats are there, think they only open that area during certain times.

timandsusan
09-21-2009, 11:41 AM
Don,
We are planning to go to Carlsbad in October of this year and then on further north into New Mexico and Arizona before the real winter gets into the mountains. I think the Carlsbad RV Park and Campground looks really good to me and we are staying there. Also you might visit Guadalupe Mountains National Park that is a little further south and west of Carlsbad Caverns.
In the Benson-Ft. Huachuca area we visited Tombstone, Bisbee and the Chiricahua National Monunent that was really beautiful. These are all desert areas so the weather should be perfect.
If you really want an adventure, visit the Big Bend Ranch State Park in Texas. You can camp at the RV park in Presidio and then drive into the state park. Check for programs on the Texas State Park website. Further along in Texas, at Seminole Canyon State park, near Del Rio, there are Indian pictographs you can hike to that are about 1000-1500 years old near the Pecos River. We did the trip after the MOC rally in Tucson in April 2008.
Our trip is described on our trip journal http://goodsamclub.mytripjournal.com/millingtontravel

We love that area of the country and I hope you have a great trip. Write me if you have any questions.

Tim Millington

HamRad
09-21-2009, 12:40 PM
I've not been to Cloudcroft but I understand it is a beautiful area. But Don't plan on taking the trailer. I believe the road is steep and very curvy. This is all just hearsay since I've not been there. During the winter they get a lot of snow. Otherwise would be a good route over to the Caverns.

Dennis

jimcol
09-21-2009, 01:19 PM
Don,
Don't think you will see the bats in the middle of winter. I understand they are only there from spring until late fall. Even without the bats the Caverns are fabulous. Dennis makes the point of inclimate weather on the road to Cloudcroft. We were warned of that when we were there in early Feb. We were told it was a great shortcut to Las Cruces even with the 5'er but storms are so unpredictable at altitude they recemmended the southern route through ElPaso.

Trailer Trash 2
09-21-2009, 02:05 PM
thanks for the good information Timandsusan I wish you a safe jurney, Ok jimcol, I guess I wont get to see bats if its winter time, but it's Febuary it has to be hot it's the desert.

jimcol
09-22-2009, 12:41 PM
OK Don I guess things work different in the desert. When we stayed at the KOA north of Carlsbad in Feb of 09 the campground water was froze up two different mornings. Not the hose but the campgrounds water spikot. Also two different days at the caverns produced no bats. The good part was you never needed more than a light jacket during the day. No bats, no water a couple of mornings but still a great time.

Trailer Trash 2
09-22-2009, 01:55 PM
quote:Originally posted by jimcol

OK Don I guess things work different in the desert. When we stayed at the KOA north of Carlsbad in Feb of 09 the campground water was froze up two different mornings. Not the hose but the campgrounds water spikot. Also two different days at the caverns produced no bats. The good part was you never needed more than a light jacket during the day. No bats, no water a couple of mornings but still a great time.


Thanks Jimcol, I can live with that, I do not like the heat, it's just no fun sitting in the trailer when it's hot. my wife likes it but she is a Vally Girl, so she is used to it.
I guess if its cold the bugs arnt out so the bats just kick back and relax.

HamRad
09-22-2009, 03:42 PM
Don,
I second the recommendation to visit the Kartchner Caverns. They are great. But you will need a reservation and that time of year is a VERY busy time of year. I'd suggest making them ASAP. By the way there is a State Park very near the Caverns. I've not stayed there but some folks have reported it is a nice park.

Enjoy your trip.

Dennis

Trailer Trash 2
09-22-2009, 03:48 PM
Thanks Dennis I have the information recorded I'll check it out.

Don

trukdoc
09-26-2009, 04:52 PM
I also recommend the KOA. Very nice, when we stayed there they had a get together in the lounge. They have a hot tub as well. There might not be a lot is Carlsbad but it is in the middle of a lot of history. I want to go back there and spend more time. If you are a history buff there is the Billy the Kid Trail. There are several towns in the area that have preserved the legend. If you like Mexican food, there is a place in Artesia that is pretty good.

SAndreasen
09-27-2009, 10:13 AM
We always stay at the La Hacienda in Las Cruces. Great place! Right on the Interstate. Easy on easy off. Very clean and free breakfasts. Not cheap but good break from traveling. Great Mexican food close by in the old town.

padredw
09-27-2009, 01:43 PM
We were in Carlsbad just a couple of weeks ago. I accept the recommendations that the KOA is an exceptionally nice RV park, but we could not justify the extra distance from the Caverns and from our route to follow our visit to the Caverns.

We stayed at the Carlsbad RV Park in the town of Carlsbad. I had read truly "awful" reviews, but I did not find it that bad at all. It was just an overnight stay and I found it quite acceptable.

We decided NOT to go on via Cloudcroft, but back through Guadalupe Mountains to El Paso. The drive through the Guadalupes is worth it, I think.

We are in Santa Fe this week-end, and will head home tomorrow after a full month on the road, and over 5000 miles on this trip: across Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, California, Nevada, Colorado, and now back across New Mexico and most of Texas.

Trailer Trash 2
09-27-2009, 05:23 PM
WOW I'm overwhelmed with all the comments and recommendations from all of you. we have decided to do the KOA in Carlsbad.
on edit,
But we still have the Benson stop and one other to decide what town say about 300 miles from Benson for our camp site for all going on the trip to agree on.

sreigle
10-01-2009, 05:44 PM
quote:Originally posted by HamRad

I've not been to Cloudcroft but I understand it is a beautiful area. But Don't plan on taking the trailer. I believe the road is steep and very curvy. This is all just hearsay since I've not been there. During the winter they get a lot of snow. Otherwise would be a good route over to the Caverns.

Dennis


It is trailerable but I wouldn't tow the house if my plan were to visit Cloudcroft. I'd stay down below and just drive up. I would tow it if just passing through, though. We planned on doing just that but the weather report stopped that idea so we took another route and then drove solo to Cloudcroft. When we got there we found most of the snow already gone. These links show a couple of pictures of the road to Cloudcroft. Really not difficult.

http://geocities.com/stevereigle/March_15_2004_Cloudcroft_NM_page_1.htm

http://geocities.com/stevereigle/March_15_2004_Cloudcroft_NM_page_2.htm

Tfthorp
10-02-2009, 08:40 AM
Was at the KOA last May or June (keep loosing track) it was great. White Sands is a great place.
Tom