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Old 06-27-2018, 12:38 PM   #21
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We're taking our first extended trip in a few weeks and have a few travel related questions. We plan on covering 1050 miles in two days, traveling roughly 9 hours the first day and 7+ the second. Based on everyone's own experience does this seem excessive? Any concerns from a mechanical standpoint? We have a 2017 F350 6.7L, CC, DW, and a 2017 3791RD with minimal miles on the tires so both are mechanically sound...

Also, that first night we'll be staying at a friends without 30-50 amp service. While the Fridge will run off truck power while driving, when stopped overnight it will be without power. In general, during summertime conditions, will the fridge retain a low enough temp to keep things cold or should we plan on packing a cooler? I think I know the answer but wanted to appease the DW by asking.

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We stay at about 300 miles per day. Stay 2 days, where ever then off again. It may seem slow but, our intent is to enjoy the journey! One never knows what one might find and we do come across many beautiful places where we like to take in the scenery and the fun things to do!
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Old 06-27-2018, 01:58 PM   #22
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Our 375FL has a res fridge, 2 batteries....Our Ram 2500 Cummins (220 amp alt), keeps the batteries charged on the road....
We now choose to stay in campgrounds with hookups
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Old 06-27-2018, 04:09 PM   #23
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We travel that same distance twice a year back and forth North and South. We used to do it in three legs but due to more sciatica issues this spring we did it in four legs. We overnight sometimes in RV parks and sometimes in truck stops. We have not had any issues with our residential refer nor the truck battery retaining charge. We have the same 2017 F-350, 6.7. We are traveling in the spring and fall so it's usually not really hot and when we don't have shore power I unplug from the tow rig so as not to run down that battery. We also keep the refer closed as much as possible at these times.
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Old 06-27-2018, 04:21 PM   #24
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I even left the ice maker on one time (yup, left the water pump on too) and had no issues. Made ice on the road. BTW, I have two truck batteries and one coach battery.

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Old 06-27-2018, 04:44 PM   #25
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Thanks everyone for all the good advice. As I am still new to the 5ver life I rely heavily on the advice of those of you who are more experienced, which is practically everyone. Thanks again!
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Old 06-27-2018, 07:12 PM   #26
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I cannot add anything to the power conversation as I don't have a residential frig. Since this is your first extended trip I think you really under estimated your time. Based on your miles and hours you will have to average 65.625 miles per hour. We have never averaged anything near that. Once these things slow down it takes longer to get than back up to cruising speed. You'll probably have an additional fuel stop. We travel at 65mph and only stop for fuel and maybe one addition bathroom break. We average just over 50 mph in a days travel. Doesn't matter if we drive 6 hours or 12 hours. That hasn't varied very much in the last 12 years.
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Old 06-27-2018, 09:35 PM   #27
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well i get to find out how all this is going to work out first hand.

i signed papers today for a montana 3701lk.

rear kitchen with a residential fridge.

my plans do include solar (as much as i can put up there).
at least 6 6 volt deep cycle batt.
(would get lithium. but for the up-front cost)
one eu3000 gen.
boon dock mostly and truck will be discounted from the coach.

and my truck is a 6.0. with a stock single alt.
might buy a heaver duty unit?
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Old 06-27-2018, 11:20 PM   #28
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We prefer to make a 1050 mile trip in a minimum of 3 days. 350 to 385 miles is enough for 1 day. Don't know if you are doing all interstate driving or if you have any side roads going thru towns with speed limits. 1050 miles in 16 hours is an average of 65mph. My truck has a 60 gal fuel tank and my bladder cannot go as long as that truck tank can. When the speeed limit permits, I drive 65 mph. But no faster. That's my limit with this rig. So, if I'm looking at a map and planning my trip, knowing that most of the route is 65 mph, I will plan on averaging 50 mph. Restroom breaks, food, and fuel, you are not going to average 65 mph. I may actually average 55-58 mph but it is usually closer to 50 mph. And then if I'm going thru a large city like Ft Worth, then I'll add an additional hour to how long it is going to take. Being slowed down for accidents and construction, the odds are stacked against you.

Most ST trailer tires are only rated for a max of 65 mph. The interstate speed limit may be 75 mph, and you may make this trip at that speed and make it there OK. But when the cap goes flying off your tire and does $4000 damage to the RV's fenders/skirting, it catches up with you.

Taking your time and enjoying the trip is what RVing is all about. You have more time to unwind and get a good night's sleep. You start out the trip feeling more refreshed. And you take time to observe your equipment oftener, like frequent stops in roadside rest areas or at truck stops or in large parking lots. Do a walk around at each stop checking your tires, wheels for hot bearings. Pound the inside dually with a hammer to see if it is up. Make sure everything is secure on the RV.

If I had to make a 1050 mile trip in 2 days, I'd fly. And I don't like to fly.
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Old 06-27-2018, 11:52 PM   #29
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i drive commercial trucks. and yes a 1000+ mile (ca, and company legal is 55 mph) day is a long one, should only be used if it is a big push to get someplace. other wise slow down and see the sights.
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The plan is to travel the 1050 miles in two days rather than one. Still long days driving but this will be the exception rather than the norm with future travel. Planning on travel hours that will allow us to avoid rush hour in the metro areas that we'll travel through.
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Old 06-28-2018, 06:00 AM   #31
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Hi All I have changed to a residential fridge after 3 years of "Norcold Hell" I have found that the truck batteries (2016 F250 6.7 liter diesel) are only trickle charge and after 4 hours drive the inverter states low battery. And if anyone is going to have truck batteries ruined it will probably be me LOL... The fridge is quite well insulated so unless in a real hot area should stay in acceptable range The idea of adding indoor outdoor thermometer to the fridge and truck and/or frozen bottles of water is amazing. Also tried solar and worked "fair " for me during the day but the batteries died sometime between 3 and 4 AM. Might consider a small generator to keep the converter in rv that keeps the rv batteries charged.
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Old 06-28-2018, 10:24 AM   #32
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Other threads have talked about how efficient the samsung fridge is with its inverter compressor technolgy. 3 amps max drain off of 120vac when it needs to go full throttle which translates to approx 30 amps off of the battery. BUT it almost never goes that extreme, mostly less than 1 amp, sometimes less than two. I believe 3 amps would be at startup from a totally warm unused fridge...ie, first time startup. So as stated above, as long as your truck is charging the monte as you aren't dry camping...all is well.
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Old 06-28-2018, 10:48 AM   #33
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We travel that same distance twice a year back and forth North and South. We used to do it in three legs but due to more sciatica issues this spring we did it in four legs. We overnight sometimes in RV parks and sometimes in truck stops. We have not had any issues with our residential refer nor the truck battery retaining charge. We have the same 2017 F-350, 6.7. We are traveling in the spring and fall so it's usually not really hot and when we don't have shore power I unplug from the tow rig so as not to run down that battery. We also keep the refer closed as much as possible at these times.
You may want to add what and how many batteries you have. That would help out others a lot.
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Old 06-28-2018, 11:58 AM   #34
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The 3791 came with two Interstate SRM-27 RV/Marine Deep Cycle batteries, 600CCA/750MCA. My truck has dual 750CCA, 78-amp-hr batteries. I plan on connecting the RV to the 50amp service here at the house for a few days prior to departure to fully charge the system and also cool the unit and fridge down to operating temperature. A few frozen gallon jugs and the indoor/outdoor thermometer (great idea) and I think we'll be fine. Will disconnect at night and have the 110/50amp connector if necessary.
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I did mention that in a follow up without much detail. Kind of new to the forum thing.

The fiver battery is a single deep cycle dealer supplied, so nothing much but it did last for 13 hours in a power outage one day.

The truck has two heavy duty batteries (don't recall the details and the window sticker is in the fiver that is at the dealer) and a 200 amp alt. so there is no problem while traveling.
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I did mention that in a follow up without much detail. Kind of new to the forum thing.

The fiver battery is a single deep cycle dealer supplied, so nothing much but it did last for 13 hours in a power outage one day.

The truck has two heavy duty batteries (don't recall the details and the window sticker is in the fiver that is at the dealer) and a 200 amp alt. so there is no problem while traveling.
thanks. The extra details help.
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Never had issues on mine we drove for 6 hours everyday left the fridge on all night just using the two house batt and in the morning I checked the battvand still reads 12.5 been on the road since feb driving east to west now on our way back east so far no issues crossing my fingers
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sad but solar is only good for a couple hrs a day.
from what i havd read, best to bump charge a hr or so in the am. off a gen. then let solar complete the charging till sunset. using a qualty 3 or 4 stage charge controler the house batt (1-2 12 volt, 4-6 6 volt) should be full each night.

but if in a park no problem at all. or if traviling. long hrs each day. (not all charging systems can do much more than what the truck needs).
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Old 07-01-2018, 08:18 AM   #39
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Tires - 1 year

Bearings - just greased
But WHAT tires came on your unit? Hoping you have the 14ply G rated Sailuns!
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Correct, 14-Ply Sailuns with less than 1,000 miles.
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