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Old 03-04-2018, 08:39 AM   #1
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F-350 / 3500 weight limit

Hi All, I was looking to upgrade the truck I noticed on the 2016 F 350 srw the GVWR is 11,300. These trucks weigh around 8600 pounds or more. So are these guys towing overloaded? That would leave a pin weight of max 2700 pounds. Most montanas advertise around 2600 pin weight or more. I have a F-250 now and was thinking of moving to a F-350 , but if it is still going to be overloaded it makes no sense.
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Old 03-04-2018, 09:00 AM   #2
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Hi All, I was looking to upgrade the truck I noticed on the 2016 F 350 srw the GVWR is 11,300. These trucks weigh around 8600 pounds or more. So are these guys towing overloaded? That would leave a pin weight of max 2700 pounds. Most montanas advertise around 2600 pin weight or more. I have a F-250 now and was thinking of moving to a F-350 , but if it is still going to be overloaded it makes no sense.
Ok someone start the popcorn again!

Like you I had an F 250. It was gas SRW short bed 4x4 (because I would have had to special order 2x4 in Arkansas). Knowing that was planning on getting a larger camper and also had just purchased a larger tractor, I decided to move up to a 1ton diesel DUALLY long bed 4x4. I towed my old camper with it for a while and the difference was absolutely amazing!!! Where the 3/4 ton SRW kept me on pins and needles the dually was very stable and inspired a great deal of confidence!!!

Again let me say that the following is intended as advice for someone asking for it. It is not intended as an insult to anyone who does not own a 1 ton diesel dually longbed 4x4!

This will start a heated debate but look at the dually! There are several good reasons why most of us are towing with them! If your primary use of the truck is to tow and or you like to be safe and legal doing so then a dually is to most (but not all) of us the best choice. They are a bit harder to park at the beauty shop or in downtown Manhattan but make up for it with additional capacity and stability particularly when loaded.

My favorite analogy is stand with your feet together and have someone push your shoulder, when you get back up spread your feet and have them push you again.

Your also spreading the load across two more tires!

That is why most of us drive a dually! It’s sure as heck is NOT a prestige thing!

Several posts on this website debating best tow truck options. Nothing seems to get folks more stirred up.
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Old 03-04-2018, 09:19 AM   #3
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If the truck is primarily being purchased for towing, check out the 2016 Ford Tow Guide, for a 350 diesel 4x4, regular cab SRW is 16100, DRW is 24, 300 a difference worth considering. Minor capacity changes for the super and crewcab configurations, rear ends, and 4x2s.
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Old 03-04-2018, 12:13 PM   #4
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Hopefully there is a file attached showing my weights actually measured at a truck stop showing that I am 20 lbs over GVWR.
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Old 03-04-2018, 01:18 PM   #5
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The numbers tell the story.Do the numbers and decide for yourself. pin weight is the primary difference .
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Old 03-04-2018, 01:46 PM   #6
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My carrying capacity is 3260
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Old 03-05-2018, 04:38 AM   #7
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Hi

The F250 and the F350 SRW have the same rear axle Sterling 10.5. The F350 DRW has the Dana 80 rear axle.

The Sterling is a much smaller axel than the Dana I have worked on both and the Sterling uses smaller Bearings at the hub end or spindal.

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Old 03-05-2018, 11:37 AM   #8
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My small 3150RL has close to 3400 lbs pin weight. A 1000 lbs more than the brochure says.

My last 3 trucks have been 350/3500 DRW trucks.

Nuf said.
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Old 03-05-2018, 01:04 PM   #9
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My carrying capacity is 3260
Is that the carry capacity listed on the door panel of the truck if so it is the unloaded number/ To find the actual carry capacity you need to weigh the truck ready to tow and everything you need on board then subtract that weight number from the truck GVW.

My 2008 F-350 weighs ready to tow 9215Lbs.The truck GVW is 13,000 lbs therefor my actual carry capacity is 3,785lbs our last measured pin weight was just over 3,000 lbs so we have plenty of surplus. Do the same with your truck and you will have the actual carry capacity and the pin weight you can handle/
It is actually very simple to do.
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Old 03-05-2018, 02:17 PM   #10
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GVWR is 11500 and the carrying capacity is 3215 not 3260 off of the stickers. Planning on getting trailer and Truck weighed. DW wants a washer dryer. I am sure I am fine now but need to see by how much.


It may be helpful when quoting weights if one would also post things like if you have a washer/and or dryer, Generator and batteries. you know big things. Don't care how many socks you pack.
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Old 03-05-2018, 03:39 PM   #11
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You are referring to the weight of the truck and how much it can carry.The pin weigh is. IN the truck and is part of Carry capacity.

Another weight to consider is GCVW (gross combined vehicle weight) that is the total weight the truck AND the RV can carry you will have to go to the ford site to get that number.Washer /dryer, etc are in the RV and have nothing to do with the Carry capacity of the truck.

I am doing a educated guess here .My Dully weighs 9215 Lbs loaded a ready to tow. My guess is your truck SWD will weigh in at @ 8500 lbs loaded and ready to tow...maybe more.You stated a GVWR of the truck is 11,500( i figured it would be) now if you weigh the truck loaded and ready to tow and it weighs 8500lbs that would leave 11,500 less 8500= 3,000lbs left for pin weight .GCVW is a entirely different number. your truck GVW is 11,500 lbs If your Rv GVW is 16,000 lbs as noted on the RV sticker then 11,500lbs plus 16,000lbs would be 27,500 lbs (GCVW) max and the Ford stated spec for GCVW for that truck should be under 27,500 lbs. Simple right......Not. Your RV MAY weigh less than the Stated GVW .We are long timers and run heavy so we are close to the 16K GVW....
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Old 03-05-2018, 04:06 PM   #12
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My truck weighed 8,580 ready to tow, full of fuel and gear, two people sitting in it. The pin weight is 2,940 as weighed. That puts the actual weight at 11,520 vs the GVWR of 11,500. I am not overly concerned as I see a lot of F250’s pulling heavier rigs but I wish I had the 350 dually. I have a F350 SRW.

My suggestion. Get your rigged weighed so you really know, not assuming your weight is similar to another rig.
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Old 03-05-2018, 09:11 PM   #13
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My Ram 3500 dually weighs 9900 pounds with extra 60 gals. of fuel, air-bag hitch and wife and i. My gvw is 14,000 pounds. With my 3480 pounds hitch my truck weighs 13,380 pounds. My trailer weighed 16,200 pounds. Deduct the 3480 hitch and i weigh 12,720 pounds on the axles. My gross combined weigh is 26,100 pounds. My gross combined weight rating (GCWR) for the truck is 27,000 pounds. I'm 200 pounds overweight on the rv (with washer and dryer) and independent suspension. I'n 900 pounds under maximum on the (gcwr) for truck and trailer. I'm sure there are others that weigh as much if not more than i. I don't see how anyone with a 3/4 ton or srw 1 ton is not overweight with the later model Montanas. I haven't weighed my rig recently but i;m sure i weigh a little more than that now. I;m sure i am within my (GCWR) but my trailer probably weighs 2 or 300 pounds more than it did. If you don't weigh then you don't know.
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Old 03-05-2018, 09:57 PM   #14
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Hi

The F250 and the F350 SRW have the same rear axle Sterling 10.5. The F350 DRW has the Dana 80 rear axle.

The Sterling is a much smaller axel than the Dana I have worked on both and the Sterling uses smaller Bearings at the hub end or spindal.

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Looking at the build sheet on my 2018 f350 srw...DANA rear end
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Looking at the build sheet on my 2018 f350 srw...DANA rear end
2017 is the latest I have worked on so that is a change.

So about the only weight rating difference between the SRW and the DRW would be the weight rating on the tires.

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