Go Back   Montana Owners Club - Keystone Montana 5th Wheel Forum > GENERAL DISCUSSIONS > General Discussions about our Montanas
Click Here to Login

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 06-03-2016, 06:24 PM   #1
Mark N.
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Ogden
Posts: 531
M.O.C. #13862
Cracked Stair Bracket

Geeze... My Monty is 3 years old, maybe 30 nights in it so far and I just discovered the mounting bracket for the stairs is cracked. Unreal....
Mark N. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2016, 07:31 PM   #2
Dam Worker
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: West Richland
Posts: 861
M.O.C. #17164
Good thing you found it, somebody could have been injured if it had failed at the wrong moment. Three step or four step type ladder? Another thing I will have to check and keep an eye on.

Tom Marty
__________________
Dam Worker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2016, 03:38 AM   #3
CORattler
Montana Master
 
CORattler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Colorado Springs
Posts: 3,271
M.O.C. #10496
Lowest bidder syndrome. Glad you caught it.
__________________
2010 3150RL
LevelUp, Dual 6 volt batteries, Progressive Industries EMS HW50C, Honda EU2000i Generator, Bridgestone Duravis R250 tires, Torklift Glowstep Revolution Stairs, LED Tail lights
2015 RAM 3500 Laramie SRW LB CC Cummins 6.7L Aisin Trans B&W RVK3600
CORattler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2016, 04:56 AM   #4
DQDick
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Council Grove
Posts: 13,714
M.O.C. #11455
We replaced ours with after market almost as soon as we bought the rig.
DQDick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2016, 05:05 AM   #5
jcurtis934
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Pensacola (mail forward service)
Posts: 2,091
M.O.C. #13740
Welcome to the stair club. Means you're doing your job of checking stuff. Hope you are able to recover. John
jcurtis934 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2016, 10:10 AM   #6
richfaa
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
Posts: 18,139
M.O.C. #2839
Look for my post of May 7th...entry steps rusting off. Golly gee I guess I am not the only one .Our mounting bracket cracked in three places had to get it welded and re enforced. Lucky it is only you and me with that problem.
richfaa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2016, 10:20 AM   #7
mlh
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
Posts: 3,234
M.O.C. #2283
I wouldn't bet it's only the 2 of you. I would bet it's hundreds with the problem. They didn't make 2 bad sets of steps and you just happened to get them. That is just not how manufacturing works. You make hundreds of a part. If one is bad they are all bad.
Lynwood
mlh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2016, 11:22 AM   #8
richfaa
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
Posts: 18,139
M.O.C. #2839
We know that Lynwood. The step bracket is flimsy. I am not a heavyweight and Helen might weigh 100 lbs. IMO this is a accident waiting to happen and my guess it has many times.I hope folks will take a good hard look at the bracket.
richfaa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2016, 11:46 AM   #9
mlh
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
Posts: 3,234
M.O.C. #2283
You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. Did anybody say anything about tires.
Lynwood
mlh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2016, 03:39 PM   #10
Mark N.
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Ogden
Posts: 531
M.O.C. #13862
I sure wish there was some Japanese competition to wake them up just like happened to Detroit in the 80's. We would all benefit so much. This is what we see when the market isn't challenged by foreign competition. Remember when "Made in Japan" meant terrible quality? Yeah, well we are chasing them now and we only have ourselves to blame.
Mark N. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2016, 05:33 PM   #11
Dmcgrew
Montana Fan
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Boise
Posts: 182
M.O.C. #13564
Wait!!! Your having stair problems, I have spoken to to Montana Service several times with no help or understanding of the problem. Replaced the first 4 step set on my aftermarket warranty and now the second set is cracking on the support frame again. Looking at replacing this set with aluminum. Any suggestions??
Dmcgrew is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2016, 02:17 AM   #12
richfaa
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
Posts: 18,139
M.O.C. #2839
It is not surprising that the service center never heard about it as it is a very minor problem that few here ever heard of apparently I was the first one who ever that had that problem.
richfaa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2016, 12:44 PM   #13
rohrmann
Montana Master
 
rohrmann's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Box Elder
Posts: 1,605
M.O.C. #12947
Instead of replacing them with another step unit of unknown quality, you might be better off taking them into a welding shop and have them repaired and reinforced. Doing that might make them lifetime steps, and probably at a lower cost.
__________________
Bob & Becky
2012 3402RL
2012 Chevy 2500HD D/A CC 4WD
rohrmann is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2016, 01:37 PM   #14
rmthelen
Montana Fan
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Fowler
Posts: 236
M.O.C. #12748
Send a message via MSN to rmthelen
Rich, I don't know if you were the first one to have the problem or not. I had mine welded at the Rally last fall by the Service Center. I was told they had not seen it before and that it was an isolated incident. When did you discover your cracked bracket?
rmthelen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2016, 02:48 PM   #15
mlh
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
Posts: 3,234
M.O.C. #2283
Some companies have a problem with honesty.
Lynwood
mlh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2016, 03:03 PM   #16
richfaa
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
Posts: 18,139
M.O.C. #2839
Noticed it in Florida this winter but strongly suspect it was separated long before I checked it closely and found the split. As far as the "we never heard of that problem before" ..... right....
richfaa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2016, 04:39 PM   #17
Mark N.
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Ogden
Posts: 531
M.O.C. #13862
All I know is about 30 nights in my coach is practically brand-new as far as the stairs are concerned. I weigh 200 lbs, and my wife weighs 135, so it's not like there's a pair of elephants walking up and down those stairs. It's ridiculous that there would be a stress crack already.
Mark N. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2016, 05:33 AM   #18
richfaa
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
Posts: 18,139
M.O.C. #2839
Look at the thicknes of that bracket.They re enforced it with something twice that thickness. IMO it is not the stairs that are the problem but the cage that it is mounted to.
richfaa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2016, 11:45 AM   #19
carl n susan
Site Team
 
carl n susan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Carmichael
Posts: 2,527
M.O.C. #4831
Quote:
quote:Originally posted by richfaa

Look at the thicknes of that bracket.They re enforced it with something twice that thickness. IMO it is not the stairs that are the problem but the cage that it is mounted to.
Well I would have to disagree. Here is a picture of my broken stairs. Notice the main support bracket broke off near the large rivet is pivots on. Of course Montana had never heard, seen, or spoken to anyone before who had this problem.



You can clearly see the point where the bracket arm broke. Ignore that goldish bolt above the break. That was my temporary fix to be able to use the steps.



Oh yea, just to show I am not the first or the last to have this problem, check out this picture from Bill (Old Guard) Young. It was taken after he had repaired the break but is sure looks similar to my, never seen nor heard of, problem.

__________________
Carl (n Susan) Youngren
There is more to life than fuel mileage.
2012 Montana 3700RL Big Sky Package towed by a 2015 Ford F350 6.7L PSD 4WD CC LWB

carl n susan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2016, 09:46 AM   #20
richfaa
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
Posts: 18,139
M.O.C. #2839
OK that is a good one Carl. The more we talk about the steps the more we find out. They fail because the cage splits and they fail as yours did and Keystone never head of it. Well they did because I told them. I wonder how many others have failed.
richfaa is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Stair vents c214dick Repairs & Service 1 07-28-2015 02:52 PM
Stair recall okierver Repairs & Service 6 05-01-2015 04:08 AM
Under the Stair Light leemedic General Discussions about our Montanas 11 12-29-2014 12:38 PM
Three step stair to two step stair conversion Gorgeguy Additions & Improvements 9 08-12-2012 04:50 PM
Outside Stair Light RKassl Additions & Improvements 5 08-10-2007 10:14 AM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:33 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.