Go Back   Montana Owners Club - Keystone Montana 5th Wheel Forum > GENERAL DISCUSSIONS > General Discussions about our Montanas
Click Here to Login

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 01-15-2016, 08:34 AM   #1
Kampn
Seasoned Camper
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Nashville
Posts: 66
M.O.C. #18069
Pivot Hinge Bath Door

I was reading the 2016 Montana brochure on Keystones website, it's a very nice brochure. One of the things it lists for 2016 is a "Clever space saving pivot hinged bath door".

I looked at a few 2016 Montana's before we ordered our 3000RE and I didn't see any that had this type of door. Does anyone know which model it comes on? Has anyone seen one on a Montana? It looks like a great idea.

Here's a link to the 2016 brochure
http://www.keystonerv.com/media/2919...re_jan2016.pdf
Kampn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2016, 09:11 AM   #2
GLS3950
Montana Fan
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Taylor Ridge
Posts: 130
M.O.C. #18049
I have a 3950 on order and it has one one the bath. I would think any with the bath in the hallway would have them.
GLS3950 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2016, 10:52 AM   #3
DQDick
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Council Grove
Posts: 13,931
M.O.C. #11455
Not sure that's a good idea. They work well in a stick house when they're new, but like most track doors they had issues as they aged, but so do most things in our rolling earthquakes.
DQDick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2016, 01:18 PM   #4
1retired06
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Lake Gaston
Posts: 6,385
M.O.C. #12156
Saw them at the Tampa RV show yesterday. Not impressed
__________________
Mike and Lorraine
2002 3655 FL, 2005 3650RK
2010 3665RE, 2015 3910FB
F350 crew cab dually 6.7
1retired06 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2016, 01:25 PM   #5
DarMar
Montana Master
 
DarMar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Minnedosa
Posts: 3,743
M.O.C. #1034
It certainly looks clever but.... We are very glad our early 2015 has the larger bath configuration that allows the entry door to swing in to the bathroom instead of out in to the hallway.
__________________
Darwin & Maureen DeBackere
Minnedosa, Manitoba, Canada
2011/3500/Silverado/4x4/DRW/Duramax
2017/3721RL/Legacy Pkg./Pressure-Pro
DarMar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2016, 01:43 PM   #6
Mrs. CountryGuy
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: _
Posts: 5,238
M.O.C. #6337
If you want a side aisle bath model, and many do, I thought the pivot door was the smartest thing Keystone has done on the interior in a few years.

Your mileage may vary, of course.
Mrs. CountryGuy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2016, 05:21 PM   #7
MARK A
Montana Fan
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: STAYTON
Posts: 363
M.O.C. #18157
I've seen a few, being a home builder, all I see are problems. Relatively light mechanism and rather cumbersome. I'd sooner have a pocket door and I hate them too. Hard to improve on a plain ol' door.

Mark
MARK A is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2016, 03:01 AM   #8
Bigboomer
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Livingston
Posts: 1,114
M.O.C. #12333
Saw one at the models they brought to the Q circle and not impressed. When traveling this thing is going to rattle around and it is not a heavy duty model. Time will tell. The design is based on storefront balanced doors but they have closers inside the actual mechanism which keeps them closed and stable.

__________________
Les and Sue Young, 2009 Int 4400 LP, 2015 3610RL, www.ramblingrvrat.blogspot.com, http://s962.photobucket.com/user/myb...Solar%20System
Bigboomer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2016, 01:13 PM   #9
Twopetes
Montana Fan
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Beloit
Posts: 173
M.O.C. #17535
I cannot comment on the longevity of these doors, but it will make it easier to get into the bathroom. In our 2015 - 353RL, we have to take a step down to open the door when coming from the bedroom. No room for a pocket door. It is a pain.

From my perspective, this is a great idea, just hope it has some reliability.
__________________
Steve & Lisa
2015 Montana High Country 353 RL | 2011 F-250 FX-4 Crew Cab
Firestone air bags | Reese Goosebox
Ready to live the dream
Twopetes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2016, 05:16 PM   #10
tooth ferry
Montana Fan
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Pell City
Posts: 177
M.O.C. #17209
Saw these while at the MOC rally in Goshen. Most folks seemed not to be very impressed. Looked very awkward to me.
tooth ferry is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2016, 05:57 AM   #11
dhuhn
Seasoned Camper
 
dhuhn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Shoreline
Posts: 60
M.O.C. #17176
Send a message via MSN to dhuhn
We just bought the 3720 it has the pivot door. The only problem which I have to have them fix is when in the bathroom, when you open, the door the hinge sticks at the bottom hopefully it's only an adjustment. Also have to open slide to access bathroom when on the road.
__________________

Dan & Sandy Huhn
2016 Montana 3720 2015 Chevy 3500 SWD Duro Max
Prev 2012 High Country 313RE 2012 Chevy 2500 DMax
dhuhn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2016, 05:33 PM   #12
rmthelen
Montana Fan
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Fowler
Posts: 263
M.O.C. #12748
Send a message via MSN to rmthelen
Saw at the MOC rally in Goshen and was not at all impressed with it. Also felt the commode area need more shoulder room. We have a 2013 and 2016 was my target year to replace but have not found one I like better. Maybe next year.......
rmthelen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-18-2016, 03:26 AM   #13
DarMar
Montana Master
 
DarMar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Minnedosa
Posts: 3,743
M.O.C. #1034
Well of course if they had kept the larger bath sizes like our early 2015 3610 then there would be no need for this as our real door swings in nicely with lots of room to maneuver around and close it. Change isn't always for the better.
__________________
Darwin & Maureen DeBackere
Minnedosa, Manitoba, Canada
2011/3500/Silverado/4x4/DRW/Duramax
2017/3721RL/Legacy Pkg./Pressure-Pro
DarMar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-18-2016, 03:58 AM   #14
WeBeFulltime
Montana Master
 
WeBeFulltime's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Hixson
Posts: 2,248
M.O.C. #11397
Quote:
quote:Originally posted by DarMar

Well of course if they had kept the larger bath sizes like our early 2015 3610 then there would be no need for this as our real door swings in nicely with lots of room to maneuver around and close it. Change isn't always for the better.
Our 2012 also opens to the inside and we have plenty of room. Are the bathrooms on the newer models that much smaller?
__________________
2018 Montana 3791RD
2012 F350 SRW 6.7 PSD

Full Timing since September 1, 2010
WeBeFulltime is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-18-2016, 04:35 AM   #15
DarMar
Montana Master
 
DarMar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Minnedosa
Posts: 3,743
M.O.C. #1034
Quote:
quote:Originally posted by WeBeFulltime

Quote:
quote:Originally posted by DarMar

Well of course if they had kept the larger bath sizes like our early 2015 3610 then there would be no need for this as our real door swings in nicely with lots of room to maneuver around and close it. Change isn't always for the better.
Our 2012 also opens to the inside and we have plenty of room. Are the bathrooms on the newer models that much smaller?
With our early 2015 3610 the 48" shower is centered on the wall with about 18-20" space at each end/side so our bathroom is longer perhaps only by say 10" but that allows the door to swing in and still be able to get around it.

I am guessing our hallway is that much longer as well hence why when they first went to swinging a full door out in to the hallway one had to step in to the bedroom to get past the bath door to open it and then enter.

Just goes to show that a few inches here and there really count.
__________________
Darwin & Maureen DeBackere
Minnedosa, Manitoba, Canada
2011/3500/Silverado/4x4/DRW/Duramax
2017/3721RL/Legacy Pkg./Pressure-Pro
DarMar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2016, 07:13 AM   #16
Kampn
Seasoned Camper
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Nashville
Posts: 66
M.O.C. #18069
So today I called Keystone and asked about the differences between the 2016 Legacy models that DW and I had seen on the dealers lot and what was shown in their newest brochure. I spoke with Brian at Keystone, he was very helpful and polite. He said that everything they were producing now would be as listed in the current brochure. So the 3000RE Legacy that we have on order will have the pivot door on the bathroom. I've not seen one in person and I can see where it may not be as durable, but it sure looks like it will be more convenient. On the unit we looked at on the lot, which had a regular door, we had to step back on the stairs to open the bathroom door. Some other features we didn't see on the lot unit were hard surface steps, hinged stove cover and an accessory hitch on rear cap models. We were a bit bummed thinking that with the rear cap we wouldn't have a hitch, but the brochure shows one.. sooo.. we shall see! LOL :-)
Kampn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2016, 08:26 AM   #17
DarMar
Montana Master
 
DarMar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Minnedosa
Posts: 3,743
M.O.C. #1034
Yes, noticed the addition again of the rear hitch, go figure? Yet we are told if we add a hitch to our 2015 the frame warranty will be void.
__________________
Darwin & Maureen DeBackere
Minnedosa, Manitoba, Canada
2011/3500/Silverado/4x4/DRW/Duramax
2017/3721RL/Legacy Pkg./Pressure-Pro
DarMar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2016, 05:01 PM   #18
kozzy
Montana Fan
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Brewerton
Posts: 321
M.O.C. #18144
We have a 3950 witht pivot door. We first saw the floor plan at Hersey and that had a regular door. You had to go into the bedroom before u could open the door to enter the bathroom. We were talking to the rep as we were getting. Ready to order and asked for a pocket door, but there was new room. He said they would figure something out. When ours came in it had the pivot door. We like it. Better the. The way it was.
I like to think I give them the idea of changing it when we talked to the keystone guy at Hersey before we ordered haha
__________________
Ed
2016 Montana 3950 BR
2004 Montana 3650 RK
2016 Ram 3500 SRW Big Horn CTD 6.7 with AISIN
kozzy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2016, 04:42 PM   #19
Virginia Young
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Sherwood
Posts: 531
M.O.C. #14096
I wish ours had the pivot door. I asked at the Tampa RV show if it our current door could be replaced with the pivot door, but was told it is about 1' wider. Our door opens into the bathroom and it's a squeeze to get in and shut it.
Virginia Young is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-2016, 01:08 PM   #20
phillyg
Montana Fan
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: SWFL
Posts: 247
M.O.C. #17801
The pivot door was on the 2016 3710FL shown in Tampa, but was not in another 2016 3710FL we saw late last year at another dealer. Nor did the other dealer's unit have the retractable front TV and front windshield. I'm guessing it was a mid-year design change. We have one on order.
__________________
2016 Montana 3711FL
2005 Ford F350, 6.0 diesel, short bed
Demco Hitchiker Auto Slide hitch
phillyg is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
3721 owners with new pivot door DarMar General Discussions about our Montanas 14 03-24-2016 07:03 AM
Shower door hinge shovelhead86 General Discussions about our Montanas 1 02-20-2016 06:58 AM
Shower door hinge shovelhead86 Repairs & Service 3 02-10-2016 04:12 AM
Door Hinge MAMalody Additions & Improvements 5 10-10-2006 07:27 PM
Hinge on storage door Ozz Additions & Improvements 14 09-01-2006 02:09 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:18 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.