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Old 12-28-2013, 11:03 AM   #1
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Availability of Nitrogen to Fill Tires??????????

Is Nitrogen to fill tires available to anyone? How can I attain besides going to tire stores? What do you do on the road if any nitrogen is needed?
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Old 12-28-2013, 11:19 AM   #2
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If I had an airplane, I would use nitrogen. The limitation far out weighs the benefit. Most RV owners have bigger fish to fry.
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Old 12-28-2013, 12:07 PM   #3
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I have not seen anything to convince me it is worthwhile for the every day driver.
Only place I have seen it locally is the Ford dealer.
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Old 12-28-2013, 12:59 PM   #4
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I looked at it and decided it was a bigger problem than a benefit. When you need to add air out in the boonies where do you get it. I just told them no thanks, regular air please.
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Old 12-28-2013, 02:20 PM   #5
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Agree with Mike! Use air! Not worth the hassle. JMHO
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Old 12-28-2013, 02:31 PM   #6
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Any air compressor provides 78% nitrogen. To get the other 22% you *WILL* have to visit a tire dealer or other installation with the right equipment. Way too much of a hassle for no demonstrable benefit on a RV.
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Old 12-28-2013, 04:57 PM   #7
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If nitrogen made a huge improvement in fuel economy and whatever else it's advertised to fix, there would be nitrogen stations at every truck stop, and all the 18 wheelers would be using it. Just a sales gimmick used by tire dealers to keep you coming back to their shops.
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Old 12-28-2013, 07:35 PM   #8
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If nitrogen isn't supposed to leak outta your tires then you shouldn't need to refill. Otherwise it's why I stick to conventional means which I can support at my house (compressor and tire gauge).
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Old 12-29-2013, 01:32 AM   #9
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When we bought our truck last year, the dealer gave us a "free" nitrogen fill saying that it will level out pressure variations as temperatures change. Now after one year's experience watching the TST gauge, along with one flat tire repaired without nitrogen replacement, we can honestly say that we see absolutely no reason to spend money on anything but air.
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Old 12-29-2013, 02:51 AM   #10
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Nitrogen was a jinx for us. We've never had tire problems on our cars. The 2 new ones came with Nitrogen. So almost in the first month each car had a flat and the repair store had no nitrogen, so now we have a mixture. I asked a PHD chemist friend of mine who is also a car nut and he laughs at the "scientific" claims the nitrogen folks make. Most are completely wrong scientifically. I'm sure there are applications where it might make sense, but for most folks, it's a waste of money. On our new cars, I told them to remove the Nitrogen and lower our price and they just lowered the price
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Old 12-29-2013, 09:15 AM   #11
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Air already is 78% nitrogen. If I was racing cars or as pineranch said, had an airplane, I'd look into it. Otherwise it's a waste of time, money and effort.
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I have nitrogen in the 2012 Ram 2500 from the factory we had nitrogen in our previous Forest River TT from the factory. I put it in the DW's car and now the 2012 Montana 3400RL.

The set up is about $280.00 from AIR Gas. That's the tank, regulator, hose, tire chuck and first fill. Refill is $19-25 +- depending on where you are. I completely filled 4 tires to 95PSI on 1 tank. After that a tank has lasted me a year maintaining 3 vehicles. I keep the set up in the front compartment.

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Unless you have the proper equipment and follow the correct purging process you are wasting your money. Don't shoot me, that is a direct quote from a Mor/ryde Rep giving a Seminar on Towing. He went on saying that the major benefit of Nitrogen in tires is the fact that pure nitrogen is extremely dry where normal air has a certain percentage of moisture and it's that moisture that causes the major pressure change as tire heat up.
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Old 12-29-2013, 04:05 PM   #14
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I glad to hear Keystone is giving the correct info. I sucked out every bit of air until my mouth hurt.

So I guess letting all the air out was not enough. Did the Keystone guy give any indication how flat the tire needed to be or why all the air needed to be out. Because moisture is ever present in the air from our compressors. That the moisture is what causes heat build up.
How many run an air dryer on their compressors. If I had a class A coach with air brakes I'd have an air dryer and that would be about as good as I could get for airing up tires. But I've got a 3400RL...

First jack up the trailer, NO weight on the wheel, next remove the valve core, carful don't let it fly across the garage, let the air out until there is no pressure, then re-inflate with the nitrogen. That is about as good as it gets, unless you have a vacuum and then you'll brake the bead seal.

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Old 12-30-2013, 03:00 AM   #15
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quote:Originally posted by Avofarmer66

I have nitrogen in the 2012 Ram 2500 from the factory we had nitrogen in our previous Forest River TT from the factory. I put it in the DW's car and now the 2012 Montana 3400RL.

The set up is about $280.00 from AIR Gas. That's the tank, regulator, hose, tire chuck and first fill. Refill is $19-25 +- depending on where you are. I completely filled 4 tires to 95PSI on 1 tank. After that a tank has lasted me a year maintaining 3 vehicles. I keep the set up in the front compartment.

Thanks for the info. I was curious as to the cost. I will stay with the regular air. I use a filter on the air compressor in my shop and drain the tank on a regular basis. Unless I have a problem I do not air on the road. If I need air I use the on board unit.

This topic has been an interesting thread for me. With all the "green caps" I see around I assumed more of you would use the nitrogen. I fully understand and agree that using nitrogen is just not a convenient way to go.
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There is actually a use for nitrogen in tires, and it has to do with heat/fire. The large mining operations use nitrogen in the big earthmover tires, simply because the weight they carry (over 200 tons) causes the tires to flex so much and heat up, that if they had any amount of oxygen/air in them they literally would catch fire. The nitrogen, being an inert gas, prevented that from happening. Same principle/use for airplanes and race cars. In my days of HVAC service, we would also use nitrogen to purge the systems on big AC plants, also because it is an inert gas, therefore no problems with corrosion, explosions, etc.
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