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Old 12-04-2013, 03:28 PM   #1
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TV rear tire wear

I have Michelin A/T3 LT 265/70/18 tires on the TV (came with the new truck). I haven't rotated the tires for a while, and noticed the tread on the two rear tires are wearing evenly and significantly more than the front tires. I assume that due to the weight of the monty the rear tires wear faster than the front. Is my assumption correct? Do you find that your rear tires wear faster than the front ones?
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Old 12-04-2013, 04:10 PM   #2
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We rotate truck tires every spring regardless of how many miles are put on the truck. Based on current mileage, this results in a rotation average mileage of 7500 miles, which is about what the truck is used for each year. This has resulted in fairly even wear, I replaced the OEM General tires that came on the truck at a little over 42,000 miles.
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Old 12-04-2013, 04:36 PM   #3
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Of course the tires on our 06 Chev are 16s, but they wear very evenly all around. I did, however, have to trial and error on the first set to get the pressure right for optimum wear. The tire asks for 80PSI, but I found that 45PSI is about perfect. If your tires are wearing in the center of the tread, that would indicate pressure too high . Wear along edges of tread indicates low pressure. IMHO.
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Old 12-04-2013, 05:08 PM   #4
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Pretty much only use the truck to pull the Monty (we bring the car with us when we stay for long periods). 40,000 miles and the tires have never been rotated and wear is even all the way around. I also keep the pressure at the max, 80psi.
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Old 12-05-2013, 01:55 AM   #5
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When pulling a heavy load the rear wheels on a SWR truck will show more wear. I had that problem with my old truck when I did not rotate the tires. Rotating the tires makes them wear even. Measure your tread depth front and back then pull 3K in the summer and check them again and you will see.
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Old 12-05-2013, 03:51 AM   #6
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We rotate every 7500 miles. The truck is my daily driver and the tires are wearing evenly.

I do keep them at the recommended pressure. 60 front and 80 rear.
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Old 12-05-2013, 04:26 AM   #7
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If you have a dually you won't see much difference between front and back. If you have a SRW it stands to reason the rear will wear more, those tires are doing all the work pushing the truck. As Mudchief stated " Measure your tread depth front and back then pull 3K in the summer and check them again and you will see." I have and you can see the difference

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Old 12-05-2013, 05:13 AM   #8
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I rotate mine every other oil change (10,000).
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Old 12-05-2013, 05:54 AM   #9
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I rotate mine every 7,500 give or take.
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Old 12-05-2013, 06:02 AM   #10
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I rotate my Michelin M/S2s every 5,000 miles. Oil gets changed, then I rotate the tires. I do all this at home so I get a chance to check the brakes. Bad news is that the tires don't get rebalanced. They are wearing pretty even or consistently. I had one defective tire so one pair of tires are the unused spare and a new replacement on the same axle so their tread is much thicker but otherwise they seem to be wearing as expected.

If you are seeing uneven wear on the tire, I'd check the balance or the shocks if they are that severe, of have a good suspension check out. Like mentioned prior if outside or inside wear, then it might be inflation. Can you describe the wear pattern?
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Old 12-05-2013, 06:08 AM   #11
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I have found on the SRWs, rear tires wear faster, because of weight. Don't have enough miles to tell on a DRW.
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Old 12-05-2013, 06:52 AM   #12
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Since weight will have a bearing on wear, then I agree if you tow enough the tires will wear faster than not. I don't tow very often and driving without towing and my rotation frequency, probably means my heavier front end wears out the tires more than the rear. FAW = 4800, RAW = 3320. And when towing FAW = 4880, RAW = 6280. As you can see the rear almost doubles and the tires in the rear would wear more than the front when towing.

So I guess the answer to dpam's question is that the tires will wear the fastest when they are carrying more individual weight. Towing, loading or cruising - will depend on the load at each tire. In the case of Duallies, it would also be the same especially since dually rear ends can even carry more weight than SRW, but the weight is divided between four tires versus only two.
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Old 12-05-2013, 12:48 PM   #13
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Thank you for all of your feedback regarding my questions regarding my TV rear tires wearing faster than my front tires. A few people asked whether I had uneven wear patterns on the tires, and the answer is that both rear tires are worn very evenly. The main treads are still visible I believe on an average they are 6/32nds, but all the cross treads are gone. It appears that I have been smoking my rear tires like a dragster. Both tires are smooth, but both still have the main treads at a reading of about 6/32nds. The front tires are approximately 9/32nds and have even wear. The truck has 29,000 miles and the majority of the driving is highway driving pulling our monty. The spare tire is new, so I guess this spring I'll simply buy one new tire, and use one of the rear tires as the spare.
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Old 12-05-2013, 01:53 PM   #14
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I have the same tires you do on my 2013 3500]HD and I am taking my truck in tomorrow to rotate the tires (and change oil) at 6,200 miles. I will report back...
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Old 12-05-2013, 04:51 PM   #15
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If you want all tires to wear evenly and extend the replacement time, you can rotate the tires on a dually vehicle, but you'll need to locate the rotation pattern. I happen to have one in my truck's owners manual, so it you would like it, lemme know by email and I'll scan it and send it to you. I'm sure an Internet search for your vehicle will yield one as well.

Have fun, dsprik! We'll wait for your report.
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Old 12-06-2013, 03:31 AM   #16
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With shiny Alcoa wheel on outside and dull steel wheel on inside of dually I guess one goes to tire store and bites the bullet to have tires and rims switched for rotation. Does anyone do different short of replacing the inside rims with Alcoas?
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Old 12-06-2013, 05:24 AM   #17
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Truck is in the shop now for oil chg and tire bal/rotate. Also, will have them check tires closely for checks. I already checked the DOT date and it was right when the truck was made in Aug 2012. Then the truck sat on a dealer's lot in Grand Rapids for a year (320 days) - through a Michigan winter - before I bought it on Aug 1, 2013. Virtually no miles (184) on it when I took possession of it. Just a quick thought. It was brought up in "Transport mode". Does that mean that the speedometer does not move on that 150 mile trip that he drove it up north?
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Old 12-06-2013, 07:10 AM   #18
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Oh my, mach111! A tire rotation on your dually would be lots of extra work and I could not do that on my driveway if I had a dually. I wonder if America's Tire would honor their lifetime rotation/balance in that case since it requires lots of effort tracking which tire goes on which wheel to keep things rotated and good looking, or they'll try and sell you six wheels that look alike for tire rotation purposes.

Dprik. What year is your truck? Chances are high that your tire tread will wear out on the truck before you have any age/rot issues. I would think if the truck was brought up by transporter, then no extramiles on the truck. I do think that 184 miles is a lot for a new truck. I believe my new truck had less than 20 as did many of my friends' or families' new trucks. It was obviously driven quite a bit while it sat on the lot for a year, but that's better than sitting completely idle during that time, I would think. Are you gonna measure tread wear, too?
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Old 12-06-2013, 07:28 AM   #19
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I just got back... Tread was 13 out of 14, so that is good at 6165 miles. Tires looked OK. No dry rot. Art, my dealer had a trade program with the other GMC dealer. Someone in the Gaylord dealership drove a new vehicle that the other dealer chose off the Gaylord lot down to Grand Rapids, 150 miles, then drove the truck back up.
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Old 12-06-2013, 07:48 AM   #20
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My old Dodge Dually had all steel rims with hub caps, my wheels could be rotated to any position and that was what was done. On my 2012 with the 4 aluminum wheels the rotation only involves 4 wheels, the best that can be done with the inside dual is switch it from side to side.

I am not prepared to pay to have tires changed from rim to rim and balanced when I do a rotation, I will live with only being able to swap the 4 tires front to back and side to side.


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