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05-21-2013, 09:14 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Fayetteville
Posts: 4,200
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Remote
Talked to Mark Krol today. When the Hickory package went away and the Paramount package was started, it marked the end of the end of the remote for Montana's. Big Sky has the touch screen remote. High Country and Mountaineer still have theirs.
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05-21-2013, 03:25 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Lykens
Posts: 545
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Did you pick his brain for the reason for not offering it anymore. Would be interesting to understand their thought process.
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05-21-2013, 03:56 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Winfield
Posts: 7,327
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The only thing I know, is that between not having one on the previous rig and having one on the current rig, I am overjoyed with the new rig with the remote!! Would not want it any other way. In my opinion, Montana is making a mistake by not keeping the remote, regardless of model.
Bingo
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Bingo and Cathy - Our adventures begin in the hills of WV. We are blessed by our 2014 3850FL Big Sky (previous 2011 3750FL and 2007 3400RL) that we pull with a 2007 Chevy Silverado Classic DRW CC dually.
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05-21-2013, 04:01 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Hixson
Posts: 3,436
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They can sure do some strange things at the "head shed". 
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Full Timers 9/1/2010 through 1/16/2020.
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05-21-2013, 04:21 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Oceanside
Posts: 534
M.O.C. #13378
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Blame it on the bean counters.....
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05-21-2013, 04:32 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Winfield
Posts: 7,327
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Or failures of control boards and the associated slew of complaints and warranty claims. A step backwards, but I am sure that in order to discontinue it, they had a valid reason. About like when they offered the wireless back-up cameras, and discontinued them midway through 2011. It was performance and warranty issues that dictated that discontinuance, so I would think they had some sort of similar issued related to the remotes. I still like ours, and if the control board dies, thankfully my extended service plan will replace it.
Bingo
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Bingo and Cathy - Our adventures begin in the hills of WV. We are blessed by our 2014 3850FL Big Sky (previous 2011 3750FL and 2007 3400RL) that we pull with a 2007 Chevy Silverado Classic DRW CC dually.
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05-21-2013, 05:21 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Wilsey
Posts: 18,799
M.O.C. #11455
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We'll that's just another reason they won't be able to interest us in a new Montana.
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2017 3720 RL, and 2013 HC 343RL
Pullrite Hitch, IS, Disk Brakes, 3rd AC, Winegard Traveler, Bathroom door mod, Dometic 320, couch for desk swap, replaced chairs, sun screens, added awnings, etc.
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05-21-2013, 05:44 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Oceanside
Posts: 534
M.O.C. #13378
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by bncinwv
Or failures of control boards and the associated slew of complaints and warranty claims. A step backwards, but I am sure that in order to discontinue it, they had a valid reason. About like when they offered the wireless back-up cameras, and discontinued them midway through 2011. It was performance and warranty issues that dictated that discontinuance, so I would think they had some sort of similar issued related to the remotes. I still like ours, and if the control board dies, thankfully my extended service plan will replace it.
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My stick house is filled full of remote controls, and I can't remember one ever failing. Not only that, replacement TV remotes ended up selling for less than $10. Is Keystone missing something, or am I?
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05-22-2013, 01:35 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Navarre
Posts: 1,527
M.O.C. #9765
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The control board is the problem, not the remote. Even money says more than half of owners don't use it.
Mike
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05-22-2013, 01:44 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Fayetteville
Posts: 4,200
M.O.C. #11401
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Maybe this would be a good discussion for the factory visit at the fall rally. I was actually thinking about getting out of RVing when Mark showed me the remote. I was hooked.
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05-22-2013, 01:45 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: New Bern
Posts: 4,370
M.O.C. #8728
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We have the first generation remote that was offered on 2009 models. Not as many functions but I don't want it to do any more than it does. It has worked flawlessly. Go back to that one. It's better than no remote at all. Do they think they will sell more Big Sky editions if they do this?
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05-22-2013, 03:43 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Canon City
Posts: 1,340
M.O.C. #7919
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I guess we need to get used to touch screens. Most new cars out there now have touch screens. We got a new Chevy Equinox recently. Sure enough it has a large touch screen. It does make for more functions and is easier to use. The same thing is happening in the shop. A lot of tools are going to a screen control. A lot of theses screens have been popping up in the past two years.
Joe
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05-22-2013, 04:16 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Friendship, Maine
Posts: 483
M.O.C. #6338
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I think I remember at the factory tour some discussion of whether the remote is necessary or not. I think it is "add something here, take away something their" in order to control cost.
The new remote for the new Big Sky may not have all the functions that the old one has by looking at a picture of it.
Chip
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2007 Montana 3075 previously
2015 GMC 3500 Dually
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05-22-2013, 04:33 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Benson
Posts: 3,121
M.O.C. #1658
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I am assuming the touchscreen is mounted inside. If so this will never be as handy as the remote. May have more functions but still not as handy
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05-22-2013, 04:40 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Winfield
Posts: 7,327
M.O.C. #6846
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Charlie, from what I have heard, it is a true remote, something along the lines of an i-phone. I have yet to see one though and very possibly could be wrong. I like the smaller size of ours because I can attach it to the keyring for the rig, keys and remote all in one place.
Bingo
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05-22-2013, 04:42 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Fayetteville
Posts: 4,200
M.O.C. #11401
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It does look similar to an IPhone.
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05-22-2013, 04:50 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Omaha
Posts: 2,074
M.O.C. #2780
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The new remote actually controls everything ..has pictures of what the things are..weighs about 1oz
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2014 Big Sky 3150RL
2015 GMC Denali, Duramax/Allison
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05-22-2013, 06:57 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Benson
Posts: 3,121
M.O.C. #1658
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That sounds better
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05-22-2013, 02:46 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Salisbury
Posts: 561
M.O.C. #6935
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Wonder if iPhone will just come out with an app to control everything?
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05-22-2013, 03:39 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Wilsey
Posts: 18,799
M.O.C. #11455
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Now that would be handy.
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Dick, Joyce, Diego, Picatso and Gustav
2017 3720 RL, and 2013 HC 343RL
Pullrite Hitch, IS, Disk Brakes, 3rd AC, Winegard Traveler, Bathroom door mod, Dometic 320, couch for desk swap, replaced chairs, sun screens, added awnings, etc.
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