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11-15-2010, 01:57 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Winfield
Posts: 7,327
M.O.C. #6846
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Attempted Autoformer Installation
What a day. I decided that since Saturday was so nice that I would get all the tools together and head for the mini-storage lot and complete the electrical system mods by installing the autoformer. I had already decided on the location beneath the steps leading up to the living room and had a good idea of what had to be done to get the system functional. One of the suggestions for the "proper use" of the Autoformer is that it be installed in an upright condition. Laying it on it's side is okay but not preferred. So, I decided to follow the manufacturer's suggestion and install it in an upright condition. This is the beginning of a couple of hours of frustration. In order to install the unit standing up, I will have to cut a good sized notch into the riser boards beneath the steps. The steps are definitely constructed well in that the first step landing extends clear to the back of the basement wall. I had come prepared with an 18V battery powered saw and even had two battery packs. Unbeknown to me was the charge condition of the battery packs. So I get about half way through the process of cutting the notch to allow the autoformer to stand beneath the steps and by then both batteries are drained. Even though I could have charged them enough to finish the job with the on-board generator, not having the charger with me eliminated that idea. Thus begins an exercise in futility of trying to cut the notch with the unpowered saw and remove "chunks" of the OSB board with a pair of channel locks. After about an hour, I gave up with the notch about 75% complete. Now obviously, the proper planning and having the proper equipment would have made this job at least one that could be completed, but it was not to be. I could have given in and simply laid the unit on it's side, but I was adamant that I would do the job as it was designed to do!! Sunday was raining, so I convinced myself after church that the only proper way to resolve the previous days frustration, was to take the family shopping!! Decor was purchased for DW to start customizing the rig interior and some kitchen items were purchased for dedicated use in the camper as well. All in all a good day, and definitely a lot less frustrating. Will finish the autoformer install one evening this week and as always provide photos for MOC forum information purposes.
Bingo
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Bingo and Cathy - Our adventures begin in the hills of WV. We are blessed by our 2014 3850FL Big Sky (previous 2011 3750FL and 2007 3400RL) that we pull with a 2007 Chevy Silverado Classic DRW CC dually.
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11-15-2010, 03:48 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: South Shore
Posts: 6,009
M.O.C. #7110
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Here’s wishing you good luck on your endeavor!
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2011 GMC 4X4 dually CC, 6.6 Duramax with Allison Transmission. Formally 2001 Montana,2007 3400RL Montana, presently 2018 3401RS Alpine.
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11-15-2010, 05:26 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Murrieta
Posts: 5,816
M.O.C. #9257
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Don't forget the pictures! Of the job, not you being frustrated, unless you think we need the comedy relief.
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11-15-2010, 06:18 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: New Bern
Posts: 4,372
M.O.C. #8728
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Ahh, the best laid plans---------------.
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11-15-2010, 09:05 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: K.C.
Posts: 11,731
M.O.C. #5980
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A handyman's lot is not an easy road to travel. I share your frustration, multiply that by 300 and you have my year...
I changed a combustion blower assembly in a Carrier furnace today, had to dis-member the furnace, re-pipe the furnace and water heater to make the gas lines safe.
Not an easy road at all. You had to 'field engineer', always difficult, you will be proud of the results when completed.
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11-27-2010, 12:25 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Haysville
Posts: 4,261
M.O.C. #3085
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This is just my experience with a Kipor generator. Be sure and make the install easy to bypass the Autoformer. I had male and female power outlets near my autoformer so I could bypass it when using a generator ... forgot to bypass one day ... the Kipor bucked and leaped and kicked off on overload. I asked Deanne at Autoformer about generators and Autoformers ... she said it's better to bypass the Autoformer when running a genset.
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11-27-2010, 02:24 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Winfield
Posts: 7,327
M.O.C. #6846
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Good advice Dieselguy,
I have always had a method to "unplug" the Autoformer from the generator circuit. Since we have and autoswitch, the Autoformer will only be on the shore power lead, the EMS is on the output of the transfer switch. I will still have the plug, unplug capability on the Autoformer since I want to be able to unplug it in the event of failure. As an update, due to our good time at the beach I have yet to complete the Autoformer installation, so as Jim says the best laid plans not only go awry, but there ar times that they are delayed. Gotta have priorities after all.
Bingo
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Bingo and Cathy - Our adventures begin in the hills of WV. We are blessed by our 2014 3850FL Big Sky (previous 2011 3750FL and 2007 3400RL) that we pull with a 2007 Chevy Silverado Classic DRW CC dually.
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11-28-2010, 02:30 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Brownsburg
Posts: 1,186
M.O.C. #5634
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Take your pistol with you and next time you see that EverReady Bunny ------ blast away that will keep him jumping. Oh your batteries were not Bunny type? Well you should have known and the Bunny never runs down.
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