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Old 09-18-2015, 07:21 PM   #21
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Buy American? Well, sometimes, sometimes not. Let's see..My F-150 is Ford...Made in Canada. My Camry is Toyota. Made in Tennessee, by American moms and dads and sons and daughters.
It doesn't help American tire workers one bit if you can't buy their tires because they cost TWICE what the imported tires cost, right? When you can't afford something, you can't afford it. Period. It doesn't matter who makes it. If you NEED tires, and you can only afford the imports, then argument is just totally stupid. You HAVE to buy what you can afford, or you are a fool.
 
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Old 09-18-2015, 07:39 PM   #22
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Back to the tire. I believe the Sailun tire's are a good option. I could not find them. Therefore I bought the Goodyear tire's and feel very comfortable. My price was also better than the quote for the Sailun. I am always happy to save money! Lol
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Old 09-18-2015, 07:51 PM   #23
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Back to the tire. I believe the Sailun tire's are a good option. I could not find them. Therefore I bought the Goodyear tire's and feel very comfortable. My price was also better than the quote for the Sailun. I am always happy to save money! Lol
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Old 09-19-2015, 06:12 AM   #24
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Back to the tire. I believe the Sailun tire's are a good option. I could not find them. Therefore I bought the Goodyear tire's and feel very comfortable. My price was also better than the quote for the Sailun. I am always happy to save money! Lol

You should share where you are getting G614's cheaper then S637 Sailuns. I'm sure there are plenty that would like to know , considering the Sailuns are usually well over $100.00 per tire cheaper. Of course unless you are referring to a different Goodyear tire then the G614
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Old 09-19-2015, 06:13 AM   #25
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Artemus what size tires did you originally have and what size did you replace them with. Also if I may ask, where did you get the great deal on Goodyears as in my search they have been almost twice as expensive. Even around my area trying to find a dealer for the Sailuns has been tuff. I can get them online quite easily and then have them mounted locally. My tires are 235/80R16's and the Sailun's that I have seen for the 16" rims were 235/85R16s. I think that got them a 3750 lb or 4080 rating at 110 psi. I have seen two different ratings so I am not sure which one is correct. The higher rating was also listed as a ST 14 ply. I need to find out for sure, maybe someone can tell me what is on their tires if they already have a set on their unit.

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Old 09-19-2015, 09:08 AM   #26
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I intend to buy the Sailuns next summer but would still like to know where Artemus bought the Goodyear 614s cheaper than Sailuns. Educate me!
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Old 09-20-2015, 06:45 AM   #27
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I intend to buy the Sailuns next summer but would still like to know where Artemus bought the Goodyear 614s cheaper than Sailuns. Educate me!
I would be more then happy to buy G614's again at the right price other then the outrageous price they want. My plans are also to buy the Sailuns next summer.
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Old 09-21-2015, 01:49 PM   #28
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Looks like Artemus has left the building
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Old 09-21-2015, 09:32 PM   #29
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235/80 R16s are the size on my Montana at purchase. Without going out and looking, I might have purchased 235/85s. At the time I bought through "SimpleTire" SimpleTire.com, on line. I am buying most of my tire's through SimpleTire. I have not checked to see if they still carry them, but try on line then call them. It was 18 months or more since I got mine and I may have gotten in on a special sale/rebate, I can't remember, but, I was pleased at the time and bought 7 of them. For example, I buying Vogue Tyres for my Caddys cheaper than 10 years ago, also they are difficult to find. My Ultra high performance tire's for my SRT Charger's, are priced better than others I have found. Good Company excellent prices. Had them delivered to the tire shop I use in Redding. They even have tire installer affiliates.

http://simpletire.com/goodyear-g614-rst-tires Found this without looking for discount.
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Old 09-22-2015, 01:26 AM   #30
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I hope that North Korea doesn't start exporting tires or the "best value" crowd with be singing the praises of the "beloved leader brand" tire.
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Old 09-22-2015, 12:43 PM   #31
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Well considering "how" I earned "my" dollars. I`m going for the best bang for the buck and went with the Sailuns, nice tires.
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Old 09-22-2015, 02:43 PM   #32
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Ron have you took the time to research the Sailun tires? Why do you say unproven tire when they seem to have been in use now for a number of years. I think some people are on their second sets or ready to go to set number two because of age. My other concern is why does Goodyear have to repair people's unit, I guess it would only be because they still have blowouts. I think the G614 are a quality tire but there are still blowouts. Not knocking them but Ron where is their rubber made? Is there not enough Quality Control at the factory, where were they made. Were they made on a Friday or Monday? I sure hope you have never bought anything not made in America.

Ok I guess I will get of my soapbox.

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Old 09-22-2015, 04:18 PM   #33
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Just for the record....for all the Goodyear cheerleaders and only buy American company products, check out those Goodyear marathons. Made in China! Nuff said.
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Old 09-22-2015, 06:04 PM   #34
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I think it has always been pretty common knowledge on this forum that the Marathons are made in China.Not sure what "Nuff said" means.??? Jim
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Old 09-22-2015, 07:28 PM   #35
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I know people get highly "emotional" on the dreaded tire discussion. Might we be honest with ourselves and understand a vast majority of what we buy is made elsewhere. Mostly because of price. The real issue is quality and standards of the parent company. It's Goodyears responsibly to see that outside sources are up to US guidelines. When they fail to do this, the first and best voting we can do is with our dollars. I have friends who won't buy a truck with tire's he does not like. He forces the dealer to change them out. Had I known Keystone was putting "dangerous" tire's on my Montana, they would have been changed before the purchase. I learned about tire's here from the MOC. With fewer than 1500 miles on them, I replaced them with out hesitation. If Sailun tire's meet my needs and are found to be safe, then I will put my trust in them. So far reports have been good, with a few contrary reports. For me Goodyear earned my dollars years ago. I can and will spend my money based on information I gather from my research. The G14s have been exemplary. I most likely will buy them again, but will not rule out a better alternative, if I believe it's worthy. Now let's talk about paying attention to our tire's. My best friends curb hopping cost him dearly, he blamed the tire's, I blamed him! Lol.
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Old 09-27-2015, 03:42 AM   #36
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I am sure I will get arguments by this, But I think we all need to think about why we (America) sends jobs off shore. We are all part of the issue. We want clean air. We want more time off. We want to pay less for whatever we buy. We all want to get big returns I'm our retirement savings. So I think we have seen in enemy and he is us. I have been to China and two things. First, their workers are expected to work but they are treated better than you think, and second,they are smart. I saw simple innovation that saves money and saw them making more parts than our plant with 25% of the staff. But we did the job different and would not change. We get in our own way.

Enough about that.

Where are people getting the Sailum tires? I see so many variations of the tire. I want "G" rating, 14 ply rating 75 or more mph speed rating, which I hope gets me 3200 plus lb. capacity. Any help is appreciated.
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Old 09-27-2015, 09:39 AM   #37
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There are many tire dealers that sell Sailun tires, just check with your local dealers first. I got mine through our local Goodyear tire store. He ordered them and they came in the next day. No problems with availability. For my previous SOB I also got Maxxis tires through this same dealer when people around the forums were reporting availability problems. I guess it depends on the dealers networks or willingness to sell tires they don't stock, so just check around.
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Old 09-27-2015, 01:16 PM   #38
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Interesting read about the Company. American Engineering is behind the product!

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2...re-review.html
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Thanks for the link Artemus, interesting read as I am interested in the company, product and what their goal is. Sounds like they want to make tires as good as the competition and sell them for less.

Your setup sounds very nice. How did you end up with the Artemus Gordon handle. I used to be a Wild Wild West fan.

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Lol thanks. Loved Wild Wild West as a kid. When I fully retired at 50, I got a puppy, I named him Artemus! Felt it was a fine alias to use!
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