Pin Box Replacement

[Recumbent]

Am about to replace OEM pin box LIPP1716 with either Trail Air $898, Morryde $646, or 5th Airbourne $898. I have a B&W Companion hitch and don't plan to change hitches. I know all 3 pin boxes are good, but is one the best, or is it just that everyone is so happy to cut down on the chucking and bouncing that their's is the best.

[Ozz]

I love my Morryde, it works so well, couldn't be happier with it. If I thought spending more money would be better, ride-wise, I would have gone to another more expensive unit.
So... my vote is:
http://www.pplmotorhomes.com/parts/r...de-pin-box.htm

[BB_TX]

I have the 5th Airborne. Did not have a lot of chucking to begin with and the 5th AB eliminated virtually all there was. And watching in my rear view mirror, I can see the trailer moving up and down somewhat independent of the truck as the air bag absorbs some of the shock of the up and down movements over bumps. Seems to make the truck ride smoother also.
Well worth the money in my opinion.

[oldelmer1]

Look in the FOR SALE section, grumpy has the morryde for sale....

[snfexpress]

I would go with the Glide-Ride from Demco...for about $680 from Tweety's.

When we ordered our Big Sky we had it configured with the MorRyde. After a couple of days of pulling we wanted our Glide Ride back. Just our opinion...

[helmick]

Can`t tell you how much we love our Trail Air. I`t slides and also has the air ride.

[mtheo]

5th Airbourne sure gives a good ride. Ride on air no just slid back and forth.
Love my 5th Airbourne and would do it again
Mark

[exav8tr]

If you have never used an air hitch or hitch pin you will be amazed at the difference in ride and the lack of stress on your trailer. I bought the MorRyde pin early on and then added the Trailer Saver Air hitch. I feel this is a very good, if not best, combination. I would opt for an air bag hitch pin if you don't have an air hitch.....BTW, I see no reason for both....

[lawrenceb42106]

We had the Trail-air tri glide installed. Wished we had done that years ago.

[bobsals]

Installed the Trail-Air. Money.... You get what you pay for. Never looked back. Very satisfied!

[drsmart]

We installed the Trailair pin box on our previous SOB and when ordering the Monty a year ago we went with the MorRyde to see how it compared. The Trailair has about 2 inches of up/down buffering at the pin according to their web site. You can order the air bag based on your pin weight. The MorRyde claims up to 3 inches for/aft buffering. The best test we found for how well the units worked to reduce chucking was on those concrete highways that have the joints every so many feet.
I would say the Trailair provided more vertical cushioning to the trailer pin box and the MorRyde was better at reducing the front to back chucking in the tow vehicle.
The difference in trailer construction and length may have been a factor as well since the new Montana is 4 feet longer and about 2500 pounds heavier. Bottom line is that we are very happy with the MorRyde. It being less expensive is a bonus. With the TrailAir I also had to tweak the air pressure in the air bag at times if there was a considerable change in air temperature. Same as tire air pressure with temp change. And I found there was some air loss over time and needed to air up every so many months. No big deal. Also because the Trailair is in a full angle down position when hitching, I tended to follow a modified hitching routine having the TrailAir slightly low while hitching allowing the tow vehicle hitch plate to force the TrailAir up into a more horizontal plane to engage.
The MorRyde requires no adjustments and hitching/unhitching is same as a standard pin box.

Good luck with your decision
Dave

[Ozz]

Here is a good video explaining the Morryde anti-chucking system.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTowrVAteqU

The thing to remember is that it is designed only for chucking, the start-stop jerking action, it also gives relief for some side to side cushioning.
For suspension action, the up and down forces, I bought a Husky air-box system, it has 2 big Firestone air bags, I keep them at 90#, we can look back and see the Monte 'Floating' as we hit bumps.
I am very happy with the combination of the two, as they are each designed for the two different dampening conditions we encounter when on the highways. As the highways deteriorate each year, you need to do something protect your tow vehicle and your 5th wheel.
I can't comment on the other methods of protection because I haven't tried them, but having two large air bags in the Husky, seems to be the right engineering for the pin weights we have.
Remember in any system, get the right hitch for the weights you have, there are many different ratings.

[Illini Trekker]

X 2 what Larry had to say best money ever Spent! Tri Glide!

[helmick]

Ours is also the Trail-air tri glide, can`t even tell you how much nicer the trailer pulls. We make no ajustments when hooking up.

[Delaine and Lindy]

I have used the Trail-air pin box and have owned 3 Trailer Savers air ride hitches. At one time I had a Trail-Air pin box and the Trailer Saver, both as said above isn't needed. I'm now using only the Trailer Saver and a standard pin box. I highly recomend if your going to stay with a 5th wheel spend the extra bucks and go with a Trailer Saver air ride hitch. And when upgrading 5th wheels or Trucks you don't have to worry about the pin box.

I also have never met anyone in person with frame issues using a Trailer Saver air ride hitch. The TS is as the name implies "Trailer Saver". Keep in mind also that the Trailer Saver fits in almost all bed rails. One Trailer Saver we had was used in 3 different Trucks.. And when you up grade Trucks you only need to buy new bedrails and hardware. I firmly believe the Trailer Saver is the best investment you can make for your 5th wheel. Happy Trails...

P.S. Our pin weight is 4,200 lbs and the 5er floats on Air. Just think a $50,000 dollar 5th wheel and a $50,000 + Truck the Trailer Saver is a cheap investment...

[drsmart]

Ozz. Thanks for the link to the anti-up-chucking video. Anything that keeps the tummy settled while towing is good

[helmick]

After watching the Mor/ryde video watch the Trail-air tri glide video below.

[Ozz]

The Morryde and Trail-air tri are apples and oranges, the Morryde is for chucking only. I went with a 2-air-bag hitch, so I have the shock-absorbing and chucking.
I don't think the Trail-air tri was available when I bought mine in '07
I would go with the Trail-air tri if I was starting from scratch, (and could afford it) If a guy wanted both anti chucking and air ride, Trail-air tri is the way to go. If I just wanted to do the anti-chuck and the budget was tight, the Morryde.

[Recumbent]

Thanks to all, this is the information I needed. Garry