Journey with Confidence RV GPS App RV Trip Planner RV LIFE Campground Reviews RV Maintenance Take a Speed Test Free 7 Day Trial ×
 

Go Back   Montana Owners Club - Keystone Montana 5th Wheel Forum > GENERAL DISCUSSIONS > TIRES, Montana Tires
Click Here to Login

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 02-28-2017, 07:36 PM   #21
Rick G
Seasoned Camper
 
Rick G's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Springfield
Posts: 71
M.O.C. #19030
Thanks, I had no idea, that's why I'm on the forum so that folks can help steer me in the right direction. We started our camping experience in 2013 buying a 30' TT at an auction. After enjoying that for about 6 months we bought a Keystone TT and enjoyed that for about a year until we graduated to the 3711. Needless to say, I have lots to learn. Thanks for your help.
 
__________________
Carol & Rick (Fur kids - Jack & Daffy)
2016 Montana 3711FL Legacy Edition
2019 Ram Laramie 3500, Crew Cab, 6.7L Cummins, 8' Bed, DRW, 20K Hitch
Rick G is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2017, 08:47 PM   #22
Mr Pachu
Montana Fan
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: R
Posts: 261
M.O.C. #17922
I got this information from the different tires websites.

Sailun S637
235/80R/16G O.D. 30.8" Single Max. Load LBS.@PSI 4,080@110
235/85R/16G O.D. 31.7" Single Max. Load LBS.@PSI 4,080@110

Goodyear G614
235/85R/16G O.D. 30.7" Single Max. Load LBS.@PSI 3,750@110

Trailer King
235/80R/16E O.D.30.8" Single Max. Load LBS.@PSI 3,520@80

I replaced my 235/80R/16 Trailer Kings with the same size Sailun S637 as they had the same outside diameter.
Hopefully this will help you make your tire decisions when you're worried about height or the spacing between the tires.
Mr Pachu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-01-2017, 09:41 AM   #23
PSFORD99
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Centerville
Posts: 1,350
M.O.C. #9051
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Pachu View Post
I got this information from the different tires websites.

Sailun S637
235/80R/16G O.D. 30.8" Single Max. Load LBS.@PSI 4,080@110
235/85R/16G O.D. 31.7" Single Max. Load LBS.@PSI 4,080@110

Goodyear G614
235/85R/16G O.D. 30.7" Single Max. Load LBS.@PSI 3,750@110

Trailer King
235/80R/16E O.D.30.8" Single Max. Load LBS.@PSI 3,520@80

I replaced my 235/80R/16 Trailer Kings with the same size Sailun S637 as they had the same outside diameter.
Hopefully this will help you make your tire decisions when you're worried about height or the spacing between the tires.

I chose to go with the bigger tire 235/85/16 , to give me a little more height. No problem with clearance or width between the tires.

If someone does go with the Sailun 235/85/16 over the 235/80/16 OEM or the G614's they will close up the gap by 1 inch , and a 1/2 inch in height.

FYI the Sailun S637 ST 235/85/16 is actually 4400 lb rating @ 110 psi. according to the Sailun website.

On edit. Just looked at the Sailun website, and they do indeed list the ST 235/85/16 ,and the ST 235/80/16 @ 4080 lb rating @ 110 psi. Thats pretty interesting, just went out to verify my rating on my 235/85/16 and they are indeed rated at 4400 @ 110 psi . I knew that ,but it made me wonder.

It appears something has changed since I last looked at the website, and since my Sailuns were manufactured in Sept 2016

And yet on another edit : If you look hard enough you will see on a Sailun website the ST 235/85/16 listed as a S637T, and a rating of 4400 lbs @ 110 psi. Go figure, my tires do have the S637 on them but, not S637T ,but rated at 4400
PSFORD99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-01-2017, 12:54 PM   #24
Twopetes
Montana Fan
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Beloit
Posts: 283
M.O.C. #17535
I put Sailuns on the Monty 353RL. Maybe to clear up some confusion. I could only find 236-85/16's in the S637 here in the states. I did find info on the 235-80/16's but only available in Canada. The weight different of the Sailuns compared to the Trailer Kings was surprising - much heavier. Per this chart the 85 series is .9 inches bigger in diameter or the trailer would stand less than 1/2" higher. So far I like em!


Twopetes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-01-2017, 07:08 PM   #25
Rick G
Seasoned Camper
 
Rick G's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Springfield
Posts: 71
M.O.C. #19030
Thanks guys for the help, if you couldn't tell from my original post, we're kind of new at this stuff so I don't know much a lot about campers, tires, tire heights, etc, so that's why I ask the stupid questions. Last night after seeing Mr. Pachu's post, I looked up the Sailun site and it was just as you guys have said, they have both the ST 235/80/16 and ST 235/85/16. Unfortunately, I'm not retired yet so when we get the camper out of storage in about a month it will be outfitted with 5 new Sailun ST 235/80/16 tires along with my new TM77 TPMS. Thanks again for the help.
Rick G is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-01-2017, 08:28 PM   #26
Dusters
Montana Fan
 
Dusters's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Lakewood, Wa.
Posts: 188
M.O.C. #19305
My Rig is going to the shop for it's annual check up tomorrow, in order to keep the Lifetime Warranty in tacked for another year. Immediately afterwards, Sailuns S637 standard tire size (235/80/R16) will be installed on all 5 tires. I also just received the TM77 TPMS, to play with this weekend. All that's left is to get out and start travelling. All the different tire posts have been really helpful in getting to this point. Thanks
Dusters is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-03-2017, 10:31 PM   #27
Rygar
New Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Campbell River
Posts: 2
M.O.C. #12689
I'm currently looking at replacing the tires on my 2011 Montana fifth wheel. The Sailun website says they require a high capacity wheel. Anyone know if the wheels Montana uses are compatible?
Rygar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-04-2017, 05:30 AM   #28
Todd727
Montana Fan
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Holly Springs
Posts: 159
M.O.C. #19394
Look on the back of the wheel and see if it is marked for 110 PSI.
__________________
2017 3950BR
Todd727 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-04-2017, 09:22 AM   #29
Butch & Kathy
Montana Fan
 
Butch & Kathy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: West Melbourne
Posts: 310
M.O.C. #18980
I just got back from having 5 Sailuns installed, 235/80/16. $869. On my last trip I had one original tire with 2100 miles separate and tear up the fender and skirt. The tire tech said I had another on the other side separating, ready to come apart.
__________________
Butch and Kathy
2016 3160RL Legacy, Sailun S637, Centramatic Balancers, 2-T105s, Amish Refrigeration, ARPrv, SoftStartRV, FlexArmor roof
2016 F350 6.7L SRW
Butch & Kathy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-04-2017, 09:36 AM   #30
Rick G
Seasoned Camper
 
Rick G's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Springfield
Posts: 71
M.O.C. #19030
Scary, we've been really lucky to not have problems with trailer king tires to date, we probably have 4,500 miles on them. I should've joined the forum and read the posts back when we bought the camper (2015) and replaced the tires then. Hopefully, when we get our camper back from the dealer next month, we can make it to the tire installer without problems.
Rick G is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-04-2017, 12:57 PM   #31
Charli
Montana Fan
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Winnipeg
Posts: 210
M.O.C. #14048
Can someone provide more specifics as to where the "stamp" is on the back of the wheel. I crawled under the trailer to look and couldn't see anything.
We have a 2015 Mountaineer and not sure if the Mountaineers (lighter than full Montana's) come with the rims to handle the 110PSI.
We have run Trailer Kings for 20,000 miles and want to Upgrade the tires to Saluins this summer.
Charli is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-04-2017, 01:03 PM   #32
Charli
Montana Fan
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Winnipeg
Posts: 210
M.O.C. #14048
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick G View Post
You guys almost have me sold on the Sailun tires, but what about the height difference of the camper. We measured the height of ours, it's 13' 1", Keystone specs say 13' 5" so if I buy the Sailun tires does it raise the height of my camper by 2" because the Sailuns are 2" taller than the OEM tires? The G614's are only an inch taller so it adds 1" to the camper height? I'm comfortable going under 13' 5" underpasses with 13' 2" height (G614's), but I don't think I'd be comfortable with 13' 3". Thoughts?
One thing to keep in mind is that while the higher tires might raise the middle to back of the trailer in height the nose is still firmly hooked up to the truck whose height hasn't changed.
In our case we ride nose high with the highest point on the trailer being the front A/C. I'm thinking that even if I go with the higher tires the A/C height won't change and in fact the trailer should be more level.
Charli is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-04-2017, 03:06 PM   #33
phillyg
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: SWFL
Posts: 964
M.O.C. #17801
Just paid $640.09 for Sailun 235/85R16 from Simple Tire shipped to an installer near me in SWFL. Installer quoted me $80 to mount and balance, all of which appears very reasonable. I'll try to weigh the TK tires and Sailuns, and post some photos showing measurements and flimsy TK sidewalls.
phillyg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-04-2017, 06:31 PM   #34
Rick G
Seasoned Camper
 
Rick G's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Springfield
Posts: 71
M.O.C. #19030
Charli, you're right, I didn't even consider the point of my measurement. I measured top of the front AC unit, it was 13' 1" so adding a 1/2" or even an inch at measurement above the wheels/tires won't make a bit of difference. Thanks for your help.
Rick G is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-04-2017, 06:57 PM   #35
Todd727
Montana Fan
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Holly Springs
Posts: 159
M.O.C. #19394
Quote:
Originally Posted by Charli View Post
Can someone provide more specifics as to where the "stamp" is on the back of the wheel. I crawled under the trailer to look and couldn't see anything.
We have a 2015 Mountaineer and not sure if the Mountaineers (lighter than full Montana's) come with the rims to handle the 110PSI.
We have run Trailer Kings for 20,000 miles and want to Upgrade the tires to Saluins this summer.
Here is an example:




__________________
2017 3950BR
Todd727 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-04-2017, 07:03 PM   #36
Charli
Montana Fan
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Winnipeg
Posts: 210
M.O.C. #14048
Thanks for location for PSI stamp. Will check in th morning
Charli is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-04-2017, 08:45 PM   #37
Kimo
Seasoned Camper
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Idaho Falls
Posts: 87
M.O.C. #13238
I visited Big O Tires this morning and they quoted $1200 for 5 (spare) S637T 235/85/16 ST. That was mounted, balanced, and installed. The question I had was, will the tire fit on a 6" wheel. Sailun specs say 6.5". The dealer told me that 6.5" was optimal but the tire can be mounted .5" either way with no problems. The only thing left is to find the PSI stamp on the wheels. So far, I have not found it. There is a bunch of other stamps like Max load 3040lbs but no max PSI.
Kimo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-04-2017, 09:07 PM   #38
rohrmann
Montana Master
 
rohrmann's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Box Elder
Posts: 4,698
M.O.C. #12947
The max load on our wheels says 3750 lbs and 110 psi, so I'm thinking your wheels are not rated for the 110 psi tires.
__________________
Bob & Becky
2012 3402RL
2012 Chevy 2500HD D/A CC 4WD
rohrmann is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-05-2017, 02:57 AM   #39
Golfmedik
Montana Master
 
Golfmedik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Auburn
Posts: 879
M.O.C. #18474
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kimo View Post
I visited Big O Tires this morning and they quoted $1200 for 5 (spare) S637T 235/85/16 ST. That was mounted, balanced, and installed. The question I had was, will the tire fit on a 6" wheel. Sailun specs say 6.5". The dealer told me that 6.5" was optimal but the tire can be mounted .5" either way with no problems. The only thing left is to find the PSI stamp on the wheels. So far, I have not found it. There is a bunch of other stamps like Max load 3040lbs but no max PSI.
Check the Tredit Tire site here http://tredittire.com/wheels and see if they have your wheels and check the specs.
__________________
2020 Montana 3790RD Legacy EditionOnan, TST TPMS, TrailAir pin, Discs,
2013 F350 DRW 4x4 CC LBViair 10007, Ride-Rites, Westin HDx, 12k Smittybilt
Golfmedik is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-05-2017, 05:02 AM   #40
WeBeFulltime
Montana Master
 
WeBeFulltime's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Hixson
Posts: 3,436
M.O.C. #11397
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kimo View Post
I visited Big O Tires this morning and they quoted $1200 for 5 (spare) S637T 235/85/16 ST. That was mounted, balanced, and installed. The question I had was, will the tire fit on a 6" wheel. Sailun specs say 6.5". The dealer told me that 6.5" was optimal but the tire can be mounted .5" either way with no problems. The only thing left is to find the PSI stamp on the wheels. So far, I have not found it. There is a bunch of other stamps like Max load 3040lbs but no max PSI.
I recommend you shop around. $1200 for 5 S637 Sailuns is WAY TOO MUCH!
__________________
2018.5 Montana 3791RD


Full Timers 9/1/2010 through 1/16/2020.
WeBeFulltime is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Sailun s637 offroad71 TIRES, Montana Tires 31 04-17-2017 01:03 PM
Sailun S637 PSFORD99 TIRES, Montana Tires 24 08-11-2016 04:31 PM
Recommended PSI Sailun s637 modela2007 TIRES, Montana Tires 7 03-14-2016 04:25 AM
Sailun: S637 opinions please Fordplus5er TIRES, Montana Tires 40 08-28-2015 05:34 AM
Sailun S637 tires? MikeM Tow Vehicles & Towing 13 08-29-2012 01:54 PM

» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
Disclaimer:

This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by Montana RV, Keystone RV Company or any of its affiliates. This is an independent, unofficial site.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:01 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.