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Old 08-13-2005, 09:23 AM   #1
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Wiring and Plumbing Diagrams

Has anyone any update on the availability of wiring and plumbing diagrams for the Montana.

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Old 08-13-2005, 10:39 AM   #2
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Nesta, as far as I know they don't exist. At least none of us has been able to get one.
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Old 08-13-2005, 04:37 PM   #3
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I called Keystone 2 weeks ago to see if I could get some kind of wiring diagram and their answer kind of unnerved me.

I was told that since they try to meet a 20 unit a day in the manufacturing there is no definate wiring code as to location of wiring. There may be different run locations from one unit to another.

Scary huh.
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Old 08-13-2005, 06:37 PM   #4
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THATS MESSED UP!!!
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Old 08-14-2005, 01:41 AM   #5
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Thank you all. We kind of figured that was the case. and yes it is scary.
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Old 08-14-2005, 07:48 AM   #6
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Nesta, if you're looking for a plumbing and wiring diagram for the hydraulic system that operates your slide systems, that I can help you with. Call me on my office phone at your convenience and I'll be glad to help if that is what you want.
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Old 08-14-2005, 09:55 AM   #7
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Don't forget everyone, Goshen, IN is in the middle of Amish country. The Amish do not use electricity. What makes anyone think that they would know what to do with a wiring diagram.
As it stands, in my 2004 3295RK the 12 volt wiring is too small for the current and the length of the runs. There is 3.5 volt( 29% ) drop in the 12 volts at the rear of the 5er.

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Old 08-15-2005, 03:12 AM   #8
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As an engineer, I find it very unusal for someone manufacturing a unit like these not to have a layout to determine materials and a drawing for it. I will be at the factory in September and will hound them for a drawing or electronic file.
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Old 08-15-2005, 08:06 AM   #9
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Dave,

As another engineer I agree with you! Please post the results of your hounding.

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Old 08-15-2005, 09:22 AM   #10
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A number of years ago I stopped by one of the local RV dealers for a part or two. There was a fifth wheel (don't remember the make/model but definitely not a Keystone product) that had the entire rear cap taken off and quite a bit of the interior paneling removed/loosened. I talked with the tech for a few minutes and he told me that he was chasing down a bad connection somewhere. Regarding the completely disassembled state of the rig, the replied that no two rigs from the same assembly line were the same. Wires would be run differently and with different colors depending on the particular guy on the assembly line and what wires he laid his hands on.

This company did actually publish a wiring diagram, but the tech had discovered that it wasn't worth the paper it was printed on....

Sounds like pretty common practice in the RV industry. Then again, the RV industry is policed by nothing but the RVIA, the proverbial fox guarding the hen house

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