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Old 06-26-2018, 09:31 AM   #1
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Hi, I'm a new Montana owner (2006 RKS) and live full time in North Idaho. Im preparing in advance for the winter by gathering the things I need to winterize like skirting and heated hose. There are a couple of heated hoses available that are made for RV's like Camco etc and I was wondering if anyone could offer their opinion on the best brand from their experience? Thanks!
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Old 06-26-2018, 10:13 AM   #2
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When we lived in Memphis. I made a one from an ordinary rv garden hose, wrapped with heat tape then covered with foam pipe insulation then black taped. Worked great and a quarter of the price of a heated hose.
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Old 06-26-2018, 10:15 AM   #3
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Old 06-26-2018, 12:46 PM   #4
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Hi, I'm a new Montana owner (2006 RKS) and live full time in North Idaho. Im preparing in advance for the winter by gathering the things I need to winterize like skirting and heated hose. There are a couple of heated hoses available that are made for RV's like Camco etc and I was wondering if anyone could offer their opinion on the best brand from their experience? Thanks!
I use a Pirit heated water hose and it has performed well. The coldest I've experienced was -1 degrees.

Also, if you're preparing for winter, I would suggest skirting your fiver.
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Welcome to the forum! We've had a Pirit heated hose for 8 years of fulltiming now and it's done well for us.
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Oh yes! That goes without saying! Skirting is a must. The hose has been my dilemma...Thanks for your feedback!
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Old 06-26-2018, 11:00 PM   #7
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The Pirit may be a better quality than the Camco...at least that is what I am hearing.
Thanks for your input!
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Old 06-27-2018, 05:20 AM   #8
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I’ve been using the same Pirit hose for the last few years. It’s been through -10 and done well.
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Old 06-27-2018, 08:58 AM   #9
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When we lived in Memphis. I made a one from an ordinary rv garden hose, wrapped with heat tape then covered with foam pipe insulation then black taped. Worked great and a quarter of the price of a heated hose.
This has worked well for me too. I also leave some enough of the heat tape on the end of the wrap to wrap the SPIGOT too. I then wrap over the spigot with fiberglass insulation and duct tape. Have never had a freeze up doing it this way.
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Old 06-27-2018, 09:49 AM   #10
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Old 06-27-2018, 09:50 AM   #11
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Is there a particular source for the Pirit you like?
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Got mine from Amazon, but you have to search for Pirit hose. Camco's apparently paying so heated hose only shows them. Home Depot and Menard's carry it on line. Menards is the lowest price before shipping, but if you have Amazon prime that's probably the low price because the dudes are heavy.
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One other thing about heated hoses and Montana's. Pirit comes with the thermostat attached to the hose. I cut it loose so it's not picking up heat from the hose. Also, you want to make sure the thermostat is well out of the convenience center. I use a car wash sponge to fill the hole around the water hose and other cables that come in there.
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Old 06-27-2018, 03:39 PM   #14
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Welcome to the MOC family from Washington St! Pirit hose is what we have also.
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Side note: fellow winter camper failed to test his plugin because he assumed since his 50amp hookup worked fine, the other would also. Bad assumption froze up.
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Old 06-29-2018, 07:03 AM   #16
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When we lived in Memphis. I made a one from an ordinary rv garden hose, wrapped with heat tape then covered with foam pipe insulation then black taped. Worked great and a quarter of the price of a heated hose.
I also make one from an RV Drinking water hose. I wrap the hose with heavy duty aluminum foil as it is a good conductor to transfer heat from the heat trace cable to distribute the heat to the entire hose. I then spiral tape (electrical) the heat trace cable to the hose. I use wire ties to secure the foam pipe insulation. I place the plug for the heat trace at the RV water connection end of the hose (the excess extends out of the convenience center outlet at the bottom) and I use an extension cord that has a light so I can verify it has power. I also use a towel to close and insulate the opening at the bottom of the convenience center. I throw everything away (except the heat trace cable) each spring. No issues so far.

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I use a 25' Pirit hose. I put my in line water filter in the convenience center so it won't freeze and that in turn puts the thermostat well below the floor. I also put a piece of foam in the access hole to keep the cold out and the heat in. We have a private site in the place where we get the cold weather (usually down to 10 or 15, but have seen zero) so I wrapped separate heat tape and foam insulation on the spigot. When it gets really cold I go farther South. Have had no problems in 3 yrs of this set up.
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Old 09-10-2018, 04:28 PM   #18
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Buy the pipe insulation to go around your hose. Get a heat trace line with a thermostat that plugs into 120 vac. Now take the hose and connect it to your city water inlet. Take the heat trace and from just outside the trailer tape it to the hose every couple feet until you run out of heat trace. Cut the hose there and put on a new hose bib. Now wrap the hose with the pipe insulation and tape every 6 inches. Done.
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Bought a Pirit hose about five years ago, and have had no problems with it except the cable ties broke allowing the thermostat to fall away from the hose. I just used new cable ties to put it back in position. The thermostat turns on the power to the hose when the hose gets to about 45 degrees. When I ordered one for the FIL, I ordered a Camco from Amazon, and when it arrived in a package with Camco on it, inside was a Pirit hose, so I guess the Camco is made by Pirit. Make sure, especially if you have the hose plugged into a GFI outlet, that the plug and any plugs on an extension cord are protected from rain, because the GFI will trip and you will have a frozen hose.
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Does anyone insulate the ceiling in the garage?
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