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02-08-2018, 07:46 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Frostproof, FL USA
Posts: 2,362
M.O.C. #13272
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Do You Say Something?
Several years ago we purchased our first every RV and immediately went full time. We had done a lot of homework and decided on a Montana 3400RL. Even though we came from a large boating background, we knew zip about the RVing world.
Thanks to this forum and it's members the learning curve was shortened. This may be a brand specific forum but the knowledge of it's members, both part timers and full timers, can't be matched anywhere IMHO.
Since first joining we have bought another home, changed to part timing in a gas MH, then sold that home, and are currently back to full timing in a DP.
On a current side trip in Florida I am parked next to a same brand DP. He is about my age and a little outspoken. He found out our coach was new so he must have assumed we were new to RVing also. He immediately "instructed" me that my surge protection was cheap and inadequate. He gave me a sales pitch on how good of a deal joining Thousand Trails was and I told him I wasn't interested. Finally he started pitching a brand specific club which we can join but it cost several hundred dollars each year and I told him I had viewed that and was not interested. He has pretty much avoided me since.
The issue here is he stated he is full timing. He is towing a car on a full size open car hauler. His receiver is a cheap one with the extension allowing him to attach a bike rack, which is only rated for 5,000 pounds max. I suspect between his heavy car hauler and vehicle he is at least 6,000 or more. He has no TPMS visible on the MH or trailer.
These are just some safety issues I would like to have a friendly conversation with him about. Since he was a little overbearing in our first encounter do I just forget about it, or do I try to bring some of these equipment issues up to save him some trouble down the road?
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Previous: 2008 Montana 3400RL & 2014 3725RL
Current: Full Time 2022 SOB TT Toy Hauler
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02-08-2018, 07:56 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: McKinney
Posts: 7,167
M.O.C. #6433
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Off hand he sounds like one of those people who are quick to give advice but likely slow to accept any. Or even listen to any. People who jump in and start telling me what I am doing wrong without me ever having asked are people I avoid afterward.
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Bill & Patricia
Riley, our Golden
2007 3075RL (recently sold, currently without)
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02-08-2018, 08:11 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Caledonia
Posts: 345
M.O.C. #17151
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You will run into these type of folks from time to time. It would be prudent to not let him bait you into that conversation. Just be the good neighbor that you are and let him be.
We just had a different kind of neighbor here in Homosassa Springs. They came in after the office closed, found an open spot (next to us) and parked their older motor home. At first light, they dumped and pulled their sewer hose without rinsing at all,packed up and left. I got the license number and left it with the office. Those are the kind of people that make it harder on the rest of us.
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John & Laura___& Bentley
2017 Montana 3950BR
2015 GMC Sierra Denali Dually
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02-08-2018, 08:13 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Hagerstown
Posts: 866
M.O.C. #16013
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got it
Quote:
Originally Posted by BB_TX
Off hand he sounds like one of those people who are quick to give advice but likely slow to accept any. Or even listen to any. People who jump in and start telling me what I am doing wrong without me ever having asked are people I avoid afterward.
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Iv`e encountered many in our travels. We call them meat heads. When they start with why their world is flat and ours is round we just causally just walk away while they`re still talking. Even if you give them sound educated advice they won`t listen. Best just to mind your own business and leave before them to avoid being held up by the accident.
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2018.5 3791 Rear Den Montana, on the lake no 3rd A/C, Mini Split, just do it
Electric Brakes ..... Disk Brakes, it`s the only way
F350 Ford Dually 4:10`s w/bags (payload 5595 lbs) Sumo Springs 63 gal aux tank
Reese Goosebox Mor/Ryde SRE 4000 X Factors Monroe shocks.... real smooth ride
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02-08-2018, 08:19 AM
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Wilsey
Posts: 18,799
M.O.C. #11455
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Have had two overnighters here in Deming who needed some advise. One, with a Montana, let me know he knew it all and the forum wasn't for him so I didn't mention the things that may bite him down the road. The other asked about our EMS and so I showed it to him and explained it and some of the other mods and make it easier things we do. I'm willing to help anyone, but if they know it all I just leave them with their knowledge and let them learn the way some of us had to.
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02-08-2018, 09:05 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Cuyahoga Falls
Posts: 699
M.O.C. #18572
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ATC/NAC Jerry A. Burkholder, USN (RET.)
Rule #1. The Chief is always right.
Rule #2. When in doubt, refer to rule #1.
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02-08-2018, 01:10 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Trinidad, TX
Posts: 506
M.O.C. #20746
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Let him be. Not being ugly but he doesn't sound like the receptive type.
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2018 Ram 3500 Laramie Longhorn 4X4 Dually Cummins Aisin CC LB / B&W Companion hitch
50 Gallon Transfer Flow in bed tank w/ Trax 3
2018 Montana 3121RL
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02-08-2018, 03:59 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
Posts: 7,550
M.O.C. #2283
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Sounds like a guy who was in the Kroger parking lot with a busted tire. I tried to be nice and tell him it was his Marathon tires on his 5er. He had done thousands of dollars damage to his camper. He got mad and told me his camper had the best tires the manufacturer could buy. It didn’t matter to me. I could care less. My camper had suffered no damage so I smiled no laughed to my self and went on my way.
Lynwood
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02-08-2018, 04:08 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: ALAMEDA
Posts: 227
M.O.C. #20448
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My father used to say listen to everyone and then decide if you think they are right or not. If I can learn from your mistakes it is much cheaper for me than learning from my own (and I have sure made a lot).
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2017 Montana High Country 310RE
2017 Ram 2500 Diesel, 4 wd crew cab, slr, pulrite super glide, short bed, 2 ea 100 Ah LiFePO4 12 volt Deep Cycle Battery
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02-08-2018, 07:02 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Ferndale
Posts: 273
M.O.C. #16033
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I am finishing up 36 years in LE in 4 months. The majority of it in investigations. I have interviewed everyone from children to murders. I usually figure out real quick the type of person I am dealing with. My wife accuses me of not liking people. It's probably true. I hope to like people when I retire in 4 months. I usually size up folks and then will talk. If I think baloney, I listen and then move on rather quickly. I will listen but won't offer advice unless asked. I have Learned a lot from all of you by the way! By advice, I mean RV advice. New to Montana and 5th wheel stuff.
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02-08-2018, 08:16 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Lake Gaston
Posts: 8,773
M.O.C. #12156
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JandC
Several years ago we purchased our first every RV and immediately went full time. We had done a lot of homework and decided on a Montana 3400RL. Even though we came from a large boating background, we knew zip about the RVing world.
Thanks to this forum and it's members the learning curve was shortened. This may be a brand specific forum but the knowledge of it's members, both part timers and full timers, can't be matched anywhere IMHO.
Since first joining we have bought another home, changed to part timing in a gas MH, then sold that home, and are currently back to full timing in a DP.
On a current side trip in Florida I am parked next to a same brand DP. He is about my age and a little outspoken. He found out our coach was new so he must have assumed we were new to RVing also. He immediately "instructed" me that my surge protection was cheap and inadequate. He gave me a sales pitch on how good of a deal joining Thousand Trails was and I told him I wasn't interested. Finally he started pitching a brand specific club which we can join but it cost several hundred dollars each year and I told him I had viewed that and was not interested. He has pretty much avoided me since.
The issue here is he stated he is full timing. He is towing a car on a full size open car hauler. His receiver is a cheap one with the extension allowing him to attach a bike rack, which is only rated for 5,000 pounds max. I suspect between his heavy car hauler and vehicle he is at least 6,000 or more. He has no TPMS visible on the MH or trailer.
These are just some safety issues I would like to have a friendly conversation with him about. Since he was a little overbearing in our first encounter do I just forget about it, or do I try to bring some of these equipment issues up to save him some trouble down the road?
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Ignore him. Likely lots of other nice people in the park to interact with.
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Mike and Lorraine
2002 3655 FL, 2005 3650RK
2010 3665RE, 2015 3910FB
F350 crew cab dually 6.7
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02-08-2018, 09:03 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Oro Valley
Posts: 3,931
M.O.C. #20477
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I would leave him be, life is too short to deal with people like him.
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Zack and Donna plus Millie and Ranger
2018 3160RL
"Life is too short to stay indoors, enjoy the ride!"
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02-08-2018, 09:20 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Bee Branch
Posts: 2,620
M.O.C. #20693
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike117
I am finishing up 36 years in LE in 4 months. The majority of it in investigations. I have interviewed everyone from children to murders. I usually figure out real quick the type of person I am dealing with. My wife accuses me of not liking people. It's probably true. I hope to like people when I retire in 4 months. I usually size up folks and then will talk. If I think baloney, I listen and then move on rather quickly. I will listen but won't offer advice unless asked. I have Learned a lot from all of you by the way! By advice, I mean RV advice. New to Montana and 5th wheel stuff.
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Thank you for your service!
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James & Irene Wilson
Bee Branch, AR.
2017 Ram 1 ton diesel duallyCrew Cab/Long Bed
2018 Montana High Country 381TH Garage Full of Toys
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02-09-2018, 06:00 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Davison
Posts: 786
M.O.C. #12331
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I in no way mean to offend you here. Sounds like you encountered "that guy". He annoyed you with his advice that you didn't ask for. You are here asking advice. Mine is don't be "that guy".
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02-09-2018, 06:15 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Frostproof, FL USA
Posts: 2,362
M.O.C. #13272
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bethandkevin
I in no way mean to offend you here. Sounds like you encountered "that guy". He annoyed you with his advice that you didn't ask for. You are here asking advice. Mine is don't be "that guy".
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I'm sort of like Mike117 when it comes to dealing with folks sometimes. I am usually a little more suspicious and pick up on the "bad" in them first before seeing any good qualities. The DW says it is because of my LEO career.
My first thoughts were to totally ignore him for the entire stay, which has been easy to do since I haven't seen him outside his rig again. It is rare that we run across a fellow camper this rude.
Sorry Kevin but I honestly think you missed the point. I didn't post here giving advise like he did, I was simply stating what happened and wondering if I should make an effort to help him out and look past his demeanor.
Not an issues anyway since we are getting ready to pull out this morning.
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Previous: 2008 Montana 3400RL & 2014 3725RL
Current: Full Time 2022 SOB TT Toy Hauler
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02-09-2018, 12:58 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
Posts: 20,229
M.O.C. #2839
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If you travel a lot you will met all kinds of folks we have met them all in our 11 years of long timing. The folks that " know it all" are very amusing when you realize they know little. The tire story brought back a memory of a few years ago when we had a conversation about marathon tires at with a guy at the same CG we were stopping overnight at. The next day and about 250 miles down the road the guy was again at the same CG we stopped at with a heavily damaged side caused by a blown tire. We took a long time looking at it, said not a word and moved on.
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02-09-2018, 04:50 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Denver
Posts: 1,046
M.O.C. #5329
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Guy sounds like a jerk. I say let him be happy in his ignorance, and leave him be.
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02-09-2018, 05:11 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Owasso
Posts: 14
M.O.C. #19486
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google dunning kruger effect and see if that applies
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02-09-2018, 08:01 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: SWFL
Posts: 964
M.O.C. #17801
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I wouldn't go out of my way to speak further to him.
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2016 Montana 3711FL
2005 Ford F350, 6.0 diesel, short bed
Demco Hitchiker Auto Slide hitch
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02-09-2018, 08:03 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2017
Location: South East NC
Posts: 1,768
M.O.C. #19865
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike117
I am finishing up 36 years in LE in 4 months. The majority of it in investigations. I have interviewed everyone from children to murders. I usually figure out real quick the type of person I am dealing with. My wife accuses me of not liking people. It's probably true. I hope to like people when I retire in 4 months. I usually size up folks and then will talk. If I think baloney, I listen and then move on rather quickly. I will listen but won't offer advice unless asked. I have Learned a lot from all of you by the way! By advice, I mean RV advice. New to Montana and 5th wheel stuff.
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My wife says the same thing at times. It is not that I do not like people, I just know I do not like every person. She says it is PTSD but after dealing with many people in mostly bad situations I just prefer to wait short time to determine what I'm dealing with. It generally only takes them saying a little.
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