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02-10-2019, 03:34 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Horn Lake
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Fender Skirts
From past experience of replacing the fender Skirts on our previous Crusader I was wondering if you have had any problems with the fender skirts on a 3121rl. My concern is that wind catches them and rips them off. I have already reinforced the leading edge of the skirt with foil type adhesive tape. Am I worrying about something that may never happen? Any opinions would be appreciated. Thanks!
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02-10-2019, 05:51 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Kansas City, Missouri
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M.O.C. #7992
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Many have put speed nuts on the screws to keep them from backing out.
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02-10-2019, 06:08 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Appling
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I lost two fender skirts which were replaced under warranty which had backing retainers installed by CW. When possible I would certainly install some type of retainer.
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2017 3791RD, MORryde SRE4000 w/ X Factor
2017 Ford F350 Lariat, CC, LB, PSD, DRW, 4WD, Curt Q24
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02-10-2019, 06:42 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Lake Gaston
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M.O.C. #12156
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I used nuts/bolts with proper washers to reinforce.
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2002 3655 FL, 2005 3650RK
2010 3665RE, 2015 3910FB
F350 crew cab dually 6.7
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02-11-2019, 12:39 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2017
Location: new caney
Posts: 1,050
M.O.C. #19873
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I used stainless steel screws,flat washers, and locking nylon nuts. Been there 4 years with no problem.
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02-11-2019, 05:33 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Fulton
Posts: 456
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I just put a dab of silicone on the screw threads on all screws in sheet metal.
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2018 Montana 3731FL
MORryde IS/DiscBrakes
2017 F450 DRW KR 4x4
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02-16-2019, 12:58 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Northern Illinois
Posts: 525
M.O.C. #19994
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jingle
From past experience of replacing the fender Skirts on our previous Crusader I was wondering if you have had any problems with the fender skirts on a 3121rl. My concern is that wind catches them and rips them off. I have already reinforced the leading edge of the skirt with foil type adhesive tape. Am I worrying about something that may never happen? Any opinions would be appreciated. Thanks!
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Mine also we "open" like that, I was able to push them flush as the bracket behind it is flexible metal.
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02-16-2019, 02:04 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Deming
Posts: 52
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Rivitnuts
I used Rivitnuts.
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02-17-2019, 05:41 AM
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Established Member
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Port Charlotte
Posts: 45
M.O.C. #22888
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My 3121RL is also like yours you would think the money we paid it would line up but we love this camper
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02-20-2019, 01:24 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Star
Posts: 1
M.O.C. #18826
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Before I attached the new skirts I re-enforced the back of each hole with fiberglass mat and epoxy, redrilled holes and uses bolts. Never loosened again nor did they break out like the original.
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02-20-2019, 01:42 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Mesa az
Posts: 2,952
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Max, you are the first person I have heard mention breaking of the skirts. The screw nearest the door kind of mounts over the top of the 6 inch thing around the edge of the slide. This is about 1/4 - 3/8 inch thick. I made the mistake of REALLY tightening down the screw right near this edge. It ended up fracturing the skirt around the screw hole and I had to patch it back up with a fiberglass kit. Seems dumb to have a screw in an area that will break the skirt if you tighten it!!!
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2013 Mountaineer 362
2012 Silverado 2500
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02-21-2019, 10:48 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Hermitage
Posts: 138
M.O.C. #21626
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Fender Skirts
I had ours crack at all the screw holes also. They ended up falling off 2 months after we bought it. We did get a new set under warranty, but they are still in the box waiting for the day I actually need them. I took the damaged ones and added a rubber flat washer about 1" in diameter to set against the painted skirt. Then I stacked on a nylon washer on about 3/4" in diameter for strength, then on top of all that I put stainless steel finish washers to give it a nice rounded finished look. We used all stainless bolts and flat washers to fit on the back side. Finished it off with stainless lock nuts to prevent loosening. So far we have thousands of miles and this is our second year without any issues. We found everything needed at Lowes in the hardware isle. It wasn't very expensive. I think it was less than $20 for everything. It took about 10 minutes a side to replace them one at a time.
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Randy & Tracy Elsey
Hermitage Pa.
2017 3791RD
2016 Chevy DD 4x4
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02-23-2019, 08:39 AM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: El Cajon
Posts: 87
M.O.C. #23160
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We see the same on our 2019 3120RL. The break in the fender skirt for the slide out does not consistently align creating a gap, that becomes a wind scoop. It seems like it is only a matter of time before the plastic gives way no matter what fastener is used.
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02-23-2019, 09:02 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Northern Illinois
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M.O.C. #19994
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It is really crappy design, I mean who at "quality control" look at it and said, "that's good" ITS A WIND SCOOP FACING THE FRONT OF THE RIG??? what could happen?
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02-23-2019, 09:16 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Bastrop
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Quote:
Originally Posted by team bradfield
It is really crappy design, I mean who at "quality control" look at it and said, "that's good" ITS A WIND SCOOP FACING THE FRONT OF THE RIG??? what could happen?
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But engineering said that was how it was designed, so QC said ship it
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02-24-2019, 12:12 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2017
Location: new caney
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M.O.C. #19873
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffba
But engineering said that was how it was designed, so QC said ship it
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There quality control is out of control.
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02-24-2019, 07:04 AM
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Established Member
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Port Charlotte
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M.O.C. #22888
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffba
But engineering said that was how it was designed, so QC said ship it
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There is no QC when it breaks that when they fix it , that there QC our dime and inconvenience
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02-24-2019, 11:03 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Haysville
Posts: 107
M.O.C. #21399
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I have had to replace hardware. i shimmed between the the fairing and the side of the RV so that the hard ware would not pull thru.
"rest19" i talked with Keystone about this issue and sent them a picture of an older montana. see below
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Brian and Tambra
Haysville
2018 - 3121RL - 2016 Ram 2500 6.4/4.10
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02-24-2019, 11:08 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Haysville
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M.O.C. #21399
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here is the older monty
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Brian and Tambra
Haysville
2018 - 3121RL - 2016 Ram 2500 6.4/4.10
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02-25-2019, 06:42 AM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: El Cajon
Posts: 87
M.O.C. #23160
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Quite a contrast between the old and the new. We will be bringing this up with our rig very soon. I will be interested to see if you get a response. Thank you for the pictures.
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