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01-17-2021, 12:57 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Jan 2021
Location: Indianapolis
Posts: 3
M.O.C. #27962
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Replace Bed
Good Afternoon,
Have a quick question. We have a Montana High Country 295RL, and we just hate the king size bed. It is extremely uncomfortable, and after putting a topper on it, makes it extremely hard to make the bed and change the sheets.
We are looking to change our bed from a King to a Queen before the next season. Has anybody changed their mattress from a King to a Queen in a 295RL. And if so, what mattress do you recommend getting for a pair of Seniors with occasional back pain??
Thanks for your time..
Michael Vaughan
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01-17-2021, 01:16 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Lamesa
Posts: 621
M.O.C. #26010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mvaughan737
Good Afternoon,
Have a quick question. We have a Montana High Country 295RL, and we just hate the king size bed. It is extremely uncomfortable, and after putting a topper on it, makes it extremely hard to make the bed and change the sheets.
We are looking to change our bed from a King to a Queen before the next season. Has anybody changed their mattress from a King to a Queen in a 295RL. And if so, what mattress do you recommend getting for a pair of Seniors with occasional back pain??
Thanks for your time..
Michael Vaughan
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First, welcome to the forum! I do not have the 295RL but have the 331RL which is very similar.
As you have found the "king bed" in an RV is often, if not usually, stuffed into a space that makes maintaining the bed nigh unto impossible. This trailer came with the king bed and a DW stipulation was that it go and a residential queen be put in its place. We had the dealer cut the platform down to fit a residential mattress thereby giving DW and myself much more room to navigate around the bed and plenty of sleeping space as well.
Although we had the dealer cut it down an individual can do it as well if you have a few tools and skills. I cut our last one down and it wasn't really a problem. In both cases we left the portion above the fold up hinge the full width because we both spend half the night with our arms somewhere above our head. DW just made supports to fill those areas and give us more room. Other options exist of course.
As far as a mattress; like truck brands, gas vs diesel etc. a mattress is a very subjective thing. Some folks like foam, some like pocketed coils and the list goes on. Some like to put a topper on the OE mattress and like that. We've tried that twice and neither of us like them.
If you have a bad back (I do) you will probably want a mattress that will support your back but have a little give. I like pocketed coils. We bought a mattress from Denver Mattress that is about 14" thick with lots of support but very comfortable - we love it. I will point out that it is much heavier than the OE mattress and required replacing the struts under the bed platform. A very easy, cheap job - maybe 10 minutes at most.
Looking at the new mattresses we find that we want to be able to feel, touch and try out before we buy. Something we've found is that when testing a bed in the store, with the mattress on a box spring, the mattress will feel "softer" that it will in the RV. Best I've figured is that the solid wood platform does not give like the box spring and makes the mattress more firm when placed upon it. Good luck on finding something that works for you. I think you'll find that most anything is going to be better than the OE mattress they put in the RV.
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Danny and Susan wife of 55 years
2019 Ram Laramie 3500 6.4 4x4 CC 4.10 SRW
2020 Montana High Country 331RL
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01-17-2021, 01:51 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: USA
Posts: 610
M.O.C. #25842
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I've got stenosis, vertebral wedging and three fused vertebrae and I cannot praise this mattress enough. We had it in twins in our Class C and immediately bought a king for our Montana when we bought it. It's as comfortable as any mattress we've ever owned.
https://www.mattressinsider.com/inne...-mattress.html
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01-17-2021, 01:57 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Mesa az
Posts: 2,963
M.O.C. #5651
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We have and (sort of) like our king. Wife doesn't like getting smacked in the head with my elbows which sometimes end up above my head. So we live with the king.
I would like more room to make the bed, tho.
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Tom and Gail
2013 Mountaineer 362
2012 Silverado 2500
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01-18-2021, 10:00 AM
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Wilsey
Posts: 18,799
M.O.C. #11455
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On three Montanas we have cut the support down and got a great mattress from Sam's Club. They delivered, set up and hauled off the old one.
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Dick, Joyce, Diego, Picatso and Gustav
2017 3720 RL, and 2013 HC 343RL
Pullrite Hitch, IS, Disk Brakes, 3rd AC, Winegard Traveler, Bathroom door mod, Dometic 320, couch for desk swap, replaced chairs, sun screens, added awnings, etc.
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01-18-2021, 11:11 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Moultrie
Posts: 250
M.O.C. #20747
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We use a r5 Sleep Number king. I have back issues so I sleep firm while the DW sleep soft. The r5 is a RV King which is narrower than a residential king. It is also much lighter than other mattresses. You can pull it out from the headboard to help with make up. They are pricey but we were able to find a good cheap used one. Some modifications to bed base needed to install due to air and electric lines.
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Frank and Marilyn
2014 3402RL, Sailun S637/Disc Brakes
2015 F350 CC LWB SRW 6.7L PSD FX4
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01-18-2021, 02:42 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Orlando
Posts: 338
M.O.C. #22589
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GAinaMontana
We use a r5 Sleep Number king. I have back issues so I sleep firm while the DW sleep soft. The r5 is a RV King which is narrower than a residential king. It is also much lighter than other mattresses. You can pull it out from the headboard to help with make up. They are pricey but we were able to find a good cheap used one. Some modifications to bed base needed to install due to air and electric lines.
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Our advice also. Buy the R5 King, it is the best mattress that I have ever slept on in my life. I have back issues and it is great. The only problem is that you will spend an extra hour or two sleeping in if you can, it's hard to part company with. Also it takes standard king size sheets just fine. We bought ours at Camping World on sales with a Camping world retail store price match to their website for about $1,800.
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2020 Montana 3813ms legacy w/Paint
2017 Ram 3500 4X4 DRW Aisin Curt Q-25
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01-19-2021, 05:40 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Full Timer In Naples, Florida
Posts: 1,049
M.O.C. #15731
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We have a king and love it, But your right as it does take up space. The oem mattress lasted less than a year. We full time so we just got a 10" mattress in a box from Walmart. I think around 300 dollars. most mattress last only 5 to 8 years. so even if we had to change it out every 3 years. We still are not spending over 1000 dollars in 9 years. Just something to think about. And yes it comfortable, at least for us.
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01-19-2021, 10:17 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: Southoftheboarder :)
Posts: 109
M.O.C. #25725
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Hi, We also switched our King to a standard size queen for the same reasons you listed. Note I wrote Standard, not a RV queen.
Honestly, we went to our local Mattress store and found a normal Queen we would pick IF it were to be used inside our home.
Husband cut off the excess wood platform and poof, we just plopped the queen down on it.
Switching it out has given us more room.
We have a 2019 Montana High Country 331rl
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01-19-2021, 04:27 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Rudyard
Posts: 73
M.O.C. #21800
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I changed our bed out for a California king which is longer than a regular king and between a king and queen as far as width. Love having a bed my feet don’t hang off the end.
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2015 Montana 3711 FL Legacy
2015 Ford F450 Platinum
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01-19-2021, 10:41 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Omaha
Posts: 6,754
M.O.C. #7560
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We went from a king to a queen in the size and also went with a queen size Sleep Number mattress in our Monte. We would not go back to any regular or foam mattress. We did have to cut a couple small holes in the side and the top wood cover for the hoses and the power cord but that is the best thing we have done and we sleep like a baby now.
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01-22-2021, 05:49 AM
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New Member
Join Date: Jan 2021
Location: Indianapolis
Posts: 3
M.O.C. #27962
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Thanks Everyone
Thanks for all the replies. That gives me lots of ideas and I think I will just go down to a regular store and get me a good queen mattress.
Thanks again,
Michael Vaughan
Montana High Country 295RL
RAM 2500 Laramie
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01-22-2021, 07:37 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Sebring
Posts: 3,662
M.O.C. #9969
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Just remember, if you bed is in a slide a standard Queen or King might be too long, as in 84" vs RV 80".
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Michelle & Ann
2018 Chevy 3500HD High Country DRW 4X4 Crew Cab w/Duramax/Allison, Formally 2010 Montana 2955RL, Now Loaded 2016 SOB, Mor/ryde IS, Disc Brakes & Pin Box, Comfort Ride Hitch, Sailun 17.5 Tires.
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01-22-2021, 02:57 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Anderson
Posts: 2,616
M.O.C. #22835
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Once you get the bed size figured out, the selection of mattress is strictly your own option. I've always suggested with such a question of what mattress should I get, just get the same one you use in your house.
or....
Take the one from your house and put it in the camper and then get a new one for the house.
However, the mattress in our camper cost about 3 times more than the one in the house. (Helix)... check it out.
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2019 Montana High Country 375FL
2014 Chevy Silverado Duramax, 6.6L Dually
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01-24-2021, 01:14 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: MADISON
Posts: 41
M.O.C. #19296
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We swapped out the king mattress in our Montana when we bought it. Replaced with a residential mattress - no rec on that, get what you like best! If I had to do it again I would NOT have the platform cut down - the original platform wasn't too wide for a queen bed. So check measurements before you get out the saw.
Also, we did have to replace the struts with stronger struts because of the mattress weight, but that was easy to do and relatively inexpensive.
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01-24-2021, 01:26 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Sidney,B.C.
Posts: 138
M.O.C. #23585
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We have found that switching to a European style slat platform gave us the same feel as a box spring, and provided better ventilation to the mattress, eliminating the sweating.
These days, they are much more common with on-line retailers, and the prices have come substantially. Weight-wise, adjustments may be required, but worth it.
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01-24-2021, 01:30 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Sep 2020
Location: EASTON
Posts: 2
M.O.C. #27186
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Sleep number mattress, and it can be the same as used at home. Very comfortable wife had back surgery no problem, may be able to be put on the same foundation.
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01-24-2021, 01:44 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Nov 2020
Location: Bettendorf
Posts: 8
M.O.C. #27616
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I'd recommend checking out Wilderness Mattress. We replaced the POS Denver Mattress with one of theirs... So comfortable and cozy for us (We're seniors too) Hope this helps.
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01-24-2021, 01:54 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Reno
Posts: 8
M.O.C. #13528
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Did it in a 3790. Shouldn’t be any different, just trim off the sides of the plywood to be about 1” narrower on each side than a queen. Everyone is different in mattresses so go to you favorite mattress store and find one that fits your needs. Just make sure it’s the same length as your current king. They make a standard queen which I believe is 80” and a short queen which is 75”. You’ll also enjoy the extra room on the sides of the bed. Don’t forget to round the corners of the plywood when you trim it.
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01-24-2021, 02:02 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: pleasant valley
Posts: 85
M.O.C. #18743
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We did the same thing, drove the rv to Sams abd picked up s mattress there
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