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Old 10-08-2019, 06:12 AM   #21
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There was a story going around the RV Park this summer about a couple who bought a big heavy 5th wheel and no truck. Their idea was to save the $90,000 truck money and use some of that money to hire someone to move the 5th wheel and just pay for that moving service. Maybe a good alternative to getting into debt on a $90,000 truck--but no bragging rights!
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Old 10-08-2019, 06:25 AM   #22
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Love these discussions since it seems that most of us have some brand loyalty and that's how we talk. I've had Fords, cars and trucks all my life with only a couple slips. I know what they can do. My current truck is a virtually trouble free 125,000 mile early 2011 Job 1 (May 2010 build) Why should I change when the last was a 100% trouble free 2006 100K F350 V10 and way back with a few F150s between was a 1976 and a 1979 F350 with 460s - both of which are still running as field trucks.


What all this boils down to is that you end up with the truck brand you are loyal to or else bought from a dealer that gives you the best deal if loyalty is of no concern. All three brands are completely capable. The horsepower and capacity hype are nothing more then that. All it means is that the lower rated trucks will 'beat out' the higher one after a software tweak and maybe a minor spring rate change along with a 'B' pillar sticker - and how mine went from 390Hp to 400 and torque from 735 to 800.


But let's keep the thread going as there is usually some good info
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Old 10-08-2019, 08:49 AM   #23
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For nearly 25 years I would have nothing but Chevrolet for me and DW's vehicles. And never had any significant failures or problems. When looking to buy a new one in 1987 a Chevy salesman made me mad. Drove across town just to look at Fords. Been driving nothing but Fords for mine and DW's ever since, including two of the 6.0 diesels. And never a problem with any of them either. And the only time I ever looked at the Rams (Dodge back then) I did not like them. But that was years ago. Will stay with the Ford unless something significant happens to change my mind.

Brand loyalty aside, they are all equally capable and reliable. None are any better or worse than the other. Just a matter of the little unexplained personal details that draw a person to one or the other.

However, that has never stopped a good debate about it.
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Old 10-08-2019, 08:57 AM   #24
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I could take any one of the three and make an arrangement as to why it’s the best truck made. Truth is they are all great trucks. Each has its strengths. We all should buy the best one for ourselves and respect others for doing the same.
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Old 10-08-2019, 08:58 AM   #25
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https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2...-lawsuit.shtml

It appears that both Ford and Gm use the cp4 pumps...A TIMEBOMB!
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Old 10-08-2019, 09:13 AM   #26
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Well Ford finally released the specs on the 2020s...
The updated Power Stroke V-8 in the 2020 Super Duty makes 475 hp and a staggering 1,050 lb-ft of torque. That's 50 more lb-ft than the Cummins and 140 more than the Duramax turbodiesel in the Silverado HD.

Ford fans rejoice, those engine specs put the 2020 Ford Super Duty back on top of the heavy-duty truck hierarchy. Ford also says that "properly configured" F-450s deliver a best-in-class diesel gooseneck towing maximum of up to 37,000 pounds—up from the 35,000 pounds in the outgoing Super Duty. Conventional towing jumps from 21,000 pounds to 24,200 pounds with the diesel. Maximum towing capacity increases across all Super Duty pickup variants—F-250, F-350, and F-450—for 2020.

For comparison, max gooseneck towing on the Silverado 3500HD and Ram HD is "only" 35,500 pounds and 35,100 pounds, respectively. If hauling bed loads in the bed is more your business, max payload for the Ford is available on the F-350 with the standard 6.2-liter motor and comes in at a class-leading 7,850 pounds. The Chevy and Ram are officially behind the Ford in this category as well, delivering 7,442 and 7,680 pounds, respectively.

Gotta when the manufactures compete, just waiting for job 2 to place an order.
Anyone, Anyone at all, towing even 30,000 lbs? At this point it's like saying one car does 200 mph and this other car goes 210 mph. It does not make the car thats faster better. So while towing my 40 foot Montana at loaded weight of 13000lbs reaches the Summit 20 seconds slower, means nothng to me personally. Ill take reliabilty anyday ....See CP4 injection pump issues..
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It appears that both Ford and Gm use the cp4 pumps...A TIMEBOMB!

The problem starts the first time the customer puts “GAS” in the tank. Oh really GAS. Why would anyone put gas in the tank.
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Old 10-08-2019, 09:33 AM   #28
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[QUOTE=mlh;1162272]The problem starts the first time the customer puts “GAS” in the tank. Oh really GAS. Why would anyone put gas in the tank.
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https://www.dieseltechmag.com/2017/1...articleContent
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Old 10-08-2019, 09:47 AM   #29
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[QUOTE=mlh;1162272]The problem starts the first time the customer puts “GAS” in the tank. Oh really GAS. Why would anyone put gas in the tank.
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https://www.dieseltechmag.com/2017/1...articleContent
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Old 10-08-2019, 10:00 AM   #30
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Anyone, Anyone at all, towing even 30,000 lbs? At this point it's like saying one car does 200 mph and this other car goes 210 mph. It does not make the car thats faster better. So while towing my 40 foot Montana at loaded weight of 13000lbs reaches the Summit 20 seconds slower, means nothng to me personally. Ill take reliabilty anyday ....See CP4 injection pump issues..
Yes, I tow construction equipment with my truck, not every day but more than I tow my camper so I need a truck with that capability. Doesn't have to be a Ford, but towing 30K & having 4wd in a comfortable truck is a big bonus.
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Old 10-08-2019, 10:10 AM   #31
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It seams to me that there’s a lot of
Fords and Gms on the road for this time bomb to be all that big of a problem.

Just saying.
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Old 10-08-2019, 11:02 AM   #32
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The problem starts the first time the customer puts “GAS” in the tank. Oh really GAS. Why would anyone put gas in the tank.
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https://www.dieseltechmag.com/2017/1...articleContent

The writer probably thinks fuel is gas..He did not say gasoline, or petrol. Gas would do more damage to the engine, not the injection pump.
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It seams to me that there’s a lot of
Fords and Gms on the road for this time bomb to be all that big of a problem.

Just saying.

Lawyers?
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Old 10-08-2019, 03:22 PM   #34
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I love em, all my vehicles have V 8s, gas & diesel. I dont think I could buy a vehicle with out a V 8, nothing sounds better, bonus if its supercharged!
Do they make a SUPERCHARGED DIESEL?⁹
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Do they make a SUPERCHARGED DIESEL?⁹
Not any more,most all 2 cycle Detroit diesels had a roots type blower, in fact the early hot rodders adapted blowers from 6-71 detroits.
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Old 10-08-2019, 09:23 PM   #36
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It appears that both Ford and Gm use the cp4 pumps...A TIMEBOMB!
Ford changed in 2017.
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Old 10-08-2019, 09:42 PM   #37
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Need help deciding on 3.55 or 4.10 rear axle ratio

I am trading in my 2017 F350DRW with a 3.55 rear axle ratio and looking to purchase a 2019 F350DRW with a 4.10 rear axle ratio. I pull a 16000 lb 5th wheel and tow only 30% of the time. Worried about the gas mileage drop when not towing. Has anyone experienced the same scenario?
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Old 10-08-2019, 11:20 PM   #38
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Ford changed in 2017.
To what?
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I am trading in my 2017 F350DRW with a 3.55 rear axle ratio and looking to purchase a 2019 F350DRW with a 4.10 rear axle ratio. I pull a 16000 lb 5th wheel and tow only 30% of the time. Worried about the gas mileage drop when not towing. Has anyone experienced the same scenario?
I went from a 2014 F350 with 3.55 gears to a 2019 F450 with 4.30 gears. I have not noticed a big difference in fuel mileage but the truck is to new to have much data. Engine speed only went up by about 200. If I remember correctly the F350 turned about 1800 at 65mph; the F450 turns 2000 at 65mph.
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GM changed to Denso in 2017 model on the L5P duramax.

Found this quote from Drivingline.com “For the first time in this engine’s production run, the injection pump is supported by a lift pump (an electric, in-tank unit), the common-rail system is supplied by Denso (not Bosch) and boost is provided courtesy of a BorgWarner turbocharger (rather than a Garrett).”
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